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Re: Class Viability
I've gotten 24 responses on the form so far. I don't really expect many more responses at this point, so I've tallied up the ones I do and here are the results:
SOLO TIER:
S Tier:
Archivist = 1 x 15, 2 x 6, 3 x 1, (2) = 1.36
Shaman = 1 x 15, 2 x 8, 3 x 1, (0) = 1.42
Syssin = 1 x 15, 2 x 8, 3 x 1, (0) = 1.42
Templar = 1 x 15, 2 x 7, 3 x 2, (0) = 1.46
A Tier:
Luminary = 1 x 11, 2 x 10, 3 x 2, (1) = 1.61
Monk = 1 x 9, 2 x 11, 3 x 3, 4 x 1, (0) = 1.83
Sentinel = 1 x 7, 2 x 9, 3 x 2, 4 x 1, (5) = 1.84
Indorani = 1 x 7, 2 x 11, 3 x 3, 4 x 1, (2) = 1.91
B Tier:
Teradrim = 1 x 5, 2 x 9, 3 x 4, 4 x 2, (4) = 2.15
Wayfarer = 1 x 5, 2 x 6, 3 x 9, 4 x 1, (3) = 2.29
Carnifex = 1 x 6, 2 x 11, 3 x 2, 5 x 4, (1) = 2.35
Shapeshifter = 1 x 3, 2 x 9, 3 x 7, 4 x 2, 5 x 2, (1) = 2.61
C Tier:
Praenomen = 1 x 1, 2 x 5, 3 x 8, 4 x 4, 5 x 3, (3) = 3.14
Ascendril = 1 x 1, 2 x 3, 3 x 10, 4 x 5, 5 x 2, (3) = 3.19
Sciomancer = 1 x 1, 2 x 4, 3 x 7, 4 x 6, 5 x 3, (3) = 3.29
Zealot = 1 x 1, 2 x 3, 3 x 5, 4 x 4, 5 x 3, (8) = 3.31
TEAM TIER:
S Tier
Shaman = 1 x 20, 2 x 4, (0) = 1.17
Luminary = 1 x 19, 2 x 4, 3 x 1, (0) = 1.25
Monk = 1 x 18, 2 x 5, 3 x 1, (0) = 1.29
A Tier:
Templar = 1 x 14, 2 x 8, 3 x 2, (0) = 1.5
Teradrim = 1 x 12, 2 x 7, 3 x 2, (3) = 1.52
Sentinel = 1 x 12, 2 x 8, 3 x 3, 4 x 1, (0) = 1.71
Ascendril = 1 x 10, 2 x 7, 3 x 4, 4 x 1, (2) = 1.82
Sciomancer = 1 x 10, 2 x 6, 3 x 5, 4 x 1, (2) = 1.86
Indorani = 1 x 9, 2 x 6, 3 x 6, 4 x 1, (2) = 1.95
B Tier:
Archivist = 1 x 10, 2 x 6, 3 x 3, 4 x 2, 5 x 1, (2) = 2
Shapeshifter = 1 x 8, 2 x 7, 3 x 7, 4 x 1, (1) = 2.04
Carnifex = 1 x 7, 2 x 11, 3 x 3, 4 x 1, 5 x 1, (1) = 2.04
Syssin = 1 x 5, 2 x 6, 3 x 8, 4 x 3, 5 x 1, (1) = 2.52
Praenomen = 1 x 3, 2 x 11, 3 x 5, 4 x 1, 5 x 3, (1) = 2.57
Wayfarer = 1 x 3, 2 x 6, 3 x 9, 4 x 3, (3) = 2.57
C Tier:
Zealot = 1 x 1, 2 x 4, 3 x 3, 4 x 1, 5 x 7, (8) = 3.56
Here are my take-away thoughts from this.
TOP AND BOTTOM DOGS:
Archivist ended up being top dog for solo combat, which doesn't surprise me. They can snag sudden and quick kills, even back in testing when they required 3 phys/mental to unravel. I kind of felt they were strong on release, but a lot of players did not agree. So I gave them buffs and here we are.
Shaman beat Luminary in team combat, which is kind of surprising. I was convinced Luminary would be at the top, but I guess we all underestimated just how useful overgrowth and high damage can be.
Zealot sits at the bottom of both solo and team combat, however they also had the most 'unsure' responses of the lot -
In solo combat I think they're pretty decent, a lot of their kit continues to go unexplored by the masses and the few that do probably need to think it over a bit more. Specifically I notice that ablaze stacks aren't tracked well, muscle spasms affliction isn't really spoken about (its strong vs restoration), and both Dwindle and Pendulum are unseen. Zenith is admittedly a little awkward to use, and could be a bit better implemented. Overall the reaction to it as a class reminds me a lot of Archivists in the early days.
Quick pro tip: When you see 'Deadly flames' on the ablaze tick, you can use Immolate on them. I quite often see that message 3-4 times before someone Immolates when reviewing logs.
In teams they are probably not that great, I did design to be more of a duelist class as Spirit already had a ton of group power. I wouldn't mind giving them a little bit extra here and there though, or perhaps just spreading out the utility across the tether a bit more.
INTERESTING POINTS:
Praenomen are lower then I'd expect in solo combat. This is likely because of the negative notion of blood mechanics and/or being able to bash a minion. I do personally think they're incredibly strong and can easily close a kill if they are not heavily cheesed.
Wayfarer is probably a bit lower then I'd have thought. Their ability to cure afflictions is not that great, so I can understand why. Offensively they seem pretty amazing.
Carnifex (solo), Praenomen (team), and Zealot (team) were the only votes that don't really fit a bell curve and had large outliers.
There were 10 voters from Shadow, 11 from Spirit, and 3 from Both.
SOLO TIER:
S Tier:
Archivist = 1 x 15, 2 x 6, 3 x 1, (2) = 1.36
Shaman = 1 x 15, 2 x 8, 3 x 1, (0) = 1.42
Syssin = 1 x 15, 2 x 8, 3 x 1, (0) = 1.42
Templar = 1 x 15, 2 x 7, 3 x 2, (0) = 1.46
A Tier:
Luminary = 1 x 11, 2 x 10, 3 x 2, (1) = 1.61
Monk = 1 x 9, 2 x 11, 3 x 3, 4 x 1, (0) = 1.83
Sentinel = 1 x 7, 2 x 9, 3 x 2, 4 x 1, (5) = 1.84
Indorani = 1 x 7, 2 x 11, 3 x 3, 4 x 1, (2) = 1.91
B Tier:
Teradrim = 1 x 5, 2 x 9, 3 x 4, 4 x 2, (4) = 2.15
Wayfarer = 1 x 5, 2 x 6, 3 x 9, 4 x 1, (3) = 2.29
Carnifex = 1 x 6, 2 x 11, 3 x 2, 5 x 4, (1) = 2.35
Shapeshifter = 1 x 3, 2 x 9, 3 x 7, 4 x 2, 5 x 2, (1) = 2.61
C Tier:
Praenomen = 1 x 1, 2 x 5, 3 x 8, 4 x 4, 5 x 3, (3) = 3.14
Ascendril = 1 x 1, 2 x 3, 3 x 10, 4 x 5, 5 x 2, (3) = 3.19
Sciomancer = 1 x 1, 2 x 4, 3 x 7, 4 x 6, 5 x 3, (3) = 3.29
Zealot = 1 x 1, 2 x 3, 3 x 5, 4 x 4, 5 x 3, (8) = 3.31
TEAM TIER:
S Tier
Shaman = 1 x 20, 2 x 4, (0) = 1.17
Luminary = 1 x 19, 2 x 4, 3 x 1, (0) = 1.25
Monk = 1 x 18, 2 x 5, 3 x 1, (0) = 1.29
A Tier:
Templar = 1 x 14, 2 x 8, 3 x 2, (0) = 1.5
Teradrim = 1 x 12, 2 x 7, 3 x 2, (3) = 1.52
Sentinel = 1 x 12, 2 x 8, 3 x 3, 4 x 1, (0) = 1.71
Ascendril = 1 x 10, 2 x 7, 3 x 4, 4 x 1, (2) = 1.82
Sciomancer = 1 x 10, 2 x 6, 3 x 5, 4 x 1, (2) = 1.86
Indorani = 1 x 9, 2 x 6, 3 x 6, 4 x 1, (2) = 1.95
B Tier:
Archivist = 1 x 10, 2 x 6, 3 x 3, 4 x 2, 5 x 1, (2) = 2
Shapeshifter = 1 x 8, 2 x 7, 3 x 7, 4 x 1, (1) = 2.04
Carnifex = 1 x 7, 2 x 11, 3 x 3, 4 x 1, 5 x 1, (1) = 2.04
Syssin = 1 x 5, 2 x 6, 3 x 8, 4 x 3, 5 x 1, (1) = 2.52
Praenomen = 1 x 3, 2 x 11, 3 x 5, 4 x 1, 5 x 3, (1) = 2.57
Wayfarer = 1 x 3, 2 x 6, 3 x 9, 4 x 3, (3) = 2.57
C Tier:
Zealot = 1 x 1, 2 x 4, 3 x 3, 4 x 1, 5 x 7, (8) = 3.56
Here are my take-away thoughts from this.
TOP AND BOTTOM DOGS:
Archivist ended up being top dog for solo combat, which doesn't surprise me. They can snag sudden and quick kills, even back in testing when they required 3 phys/mental to unravel. I kind of felt they were strong on release, but a lot of players did not agree. So I gave them buffs and here we are.
Shaman beat Luminary in team combat, which is kind of surprising. I was convinced Luminary would be at the top, but I guess we all underestimated just how useful overgrowth and high damage can be.
Zealot sits at the bottom of both solo and team combat, however they also had the most 'unsure' responses of the lot -
In solo combat I think they're pretty decent, a lot of their kit continues to go unexplored by the masses and the few that do probably need to think it over a bit more. Specifically I notice that ablaze stacks aren't tracked well, muscle spasms affliction isn't really spoken about (its strong vs restoration), and both Dwindle and Pendulum are unseen. Zenith is admittedly a little awkward to use, and could be a bit better implemented. Overall the reaction to it as a class reminds me a lot of Archivists in the early days.
Quick pro tip: When you see 'Deadly flames' on the ablaze tick, you can use Immolate on them. I quite often see that message 3-4 times before someone Immolates when reviewing logs.
In teams they are probably not that great, I did design to be more of a duelist class as Spirit already had a ton of group power. I wouldn't mind giving them a little bit extra here and there though, or perhaps just spreading out the utility across the tether a bit more.
INTERESTING POINTS:
Praenomen are lower then I'd expect in solo combat. This is likely because of the negative notion of blood mechanics and/or being able to bash a minion. I do personally think they're incredibly strong and can easily close a kill if they are not heavily cheesed.
Wayfarer is probably a bit lower then I'd have thought. Their ability to cure afflictions is not that great, so I can understand why. Offensively they seem pretty amazing.
Carnifex (solo), Praenomen (team), and Zealot (team) were the only votes that don't really fit a bell curve and had large outliers.
There were 10 voters from Shadow, 11 from Spirit, and 3 from Both.
Keroc
11
Re: Class Viability pt. 2
Alright!
We've hit 31 voters, and I don't think there's likely to be anymore. So here is the tally! I've also included how each class has moved compared to their previous position.
SOLO TIER:
S Tier:
Sciomancer = 1 x 21, 2 x 5, 3 x 1, 4 x 1 (3) = 1.35 [+C]
Luminary = 1 x 21, 2 x 4, 3 x 3, (3) = 1.36 [+A]
A Tier:
Wayfarer = 1 x 17, 2 x 8, 3 x 2, 4 x 1, (3) = 1.54 [+B]
Indorani = 1 x 10, 2 x 13, 3 x 3, 4 x 1, (4) = 1.81 [==]
Teradrim = 1 x 11, 2 x 11, 3 x 2, 4 x 1, 5 x 1, (5) = 1.85 [+B]
Praenomen = 1 x 2, 2 x 13, 3 x 9, 4 x 1, (6) = 1.96 [+C]
B Tier:
Sentinel = 1 x 7, 2 x 12, 3 x 4, 4 x 1, 5 x 1, (6) = 2.08 [-A]
Shaman = 1 x 7, 2 x 11, 3 x 8, 4 x 1, (4) = 2.11 [-S]
Archivist = 1 x 3, 2 x 15, 3 x 7, 4 x 1, (5) = 2.23 [-S]
Zealot = 1 x 6, 2 x 10, 3 x 7, 4 x 1, 5 x 1, (6) = 2.24 [+C]
Syssin = 1 x 9, 2 x 10, 3 x 3, 4 x 5, 5 x 1, (3) = 2.25 [-S]
Monk = 1 x 7, 2 x 7, 3 x 7, 4 x 2, 5 x 1, (7) = 2.29 [-A]
Carnifex / Warden = 1 x 2, 2 x 18, 3 x 3, 4 x 2, 5 x 2, (4) = 2.41 [==]
Templar / Revenant = 1 x 4, 2 x 11, 3 x 10, 4 x 2, 5 x 1, (3) = 2.46 [-S]
Shapeshifter = 1 x 4, 2 x 8, 3 x 11, 4 x 5, (3) = 2.61 [==]
C Tier:
Ascendril = 1 x 1, 2 x 6, 3 x 8, 4 x 7, 5 x 3, (6) = 3.20 [==]
TEAM TIER:
S Tier:
Luminary = 1 x 20, 2 x 7, 3 x 1, (3) = 1.32 [==]
A Tier:
Monk = 1 x 16, 2 x 8, 3 x 4, 4 x 1, (2) = 1.66 [-S]
Sentinel = 1 x 13, 2 x 11, 3 x 5, (2) = 1.72 [==]
Shaman = 1 x 11, 2 x 14, 3 x 4, (2) = 1.76 [-S]
Carnifex / Warden = 1 x 12, 2 x 10, 3 x 6, (3) = 1.78 [+B]
Ascendril = 1 x 12, 2 x 6, 3 x 9, 4 x 1, (3) = 1.96 [==]
B Tier:
Sciomancer = 1 x 10, 2 x 10, 3 x 4, 4 x 2, 5 x 2, (3) = 2.14 [-A]
Praenomen = 1 x 7, 2 x 13, 3 x 3, 4 x 3, 5 x 1, (4) = 2.19 [==]
Wayfarer = 1 x 7, 2 x 12, 3 x 7, 4 x 2, 5 x 1, (2) = 2.24 [==]
Shapeshifter = 1 x 5, 2 x 13, 3 x 9, 4 x 2, (2) = 2.28 [==]
Indorani = 1 x 8, 2 x 9, 3 x 7, 4 x 3, 5 x 1, (3) = 2.28 [-A]
Templar / Revenant = 1 x 5, 2 x 11, 3 x 9, 4 x 3, 5 x 1, (2) = 2.45 [-A]
Teradrim = 1 x 4, 2 x 12, 3 x 8, 4 x 2, 5 x 2, (3) = 2.5 [-A]
Archivist = 1 x 6, 2 x 8, 3 x 8, 4 x 2, 5 x 4, (3) = 2.64 [==]
Zealot = 1 x 1, 2 x 10, 3 x 9, 4 x 3, 5 x 2, (6) = 2.8 [+C]
C Tier:
Syssin = 2 x 4, 3 x 10, 4 x 8, 5 x 6, (3) = 3.57 [-B]
I'll do a little commentary like I did before, so here's a quick take-away from this.
TOP AND BOTTOM DOGS:
The new champion Sciomancer (solo) has risen, taking the mantle from what I thought would likely be either Luminary or Wayfarer. This isn't too much of a shock to me, they have a lot of powerful forks and some of their best afflictions cannot be cured by random means. They also have great defensive means.
Luminary (team) takes the cup in over all other classes when it comes to teams. No other class stands in its tier. They have a huge variety of powerful team skills and a great ability to fortify their teams position. They're also pretty tanky and can pop a number of skills to live for longer. It's pretty hard to think of what they don't do well.
Ascendril (solo) sits at the bottom despite being a relatively new class. There were some things that were cut from the affliction side before release, as the limb side of things seemed really strong. Perhaps its time they got some of the missing skills.
The position of Syssin (team) isn't unexpected. As an assassin class their theming and feel is supposed to be attractive to those who enjoy the lone wolf style of play. Having said that perhaps a few new tricks up their sleeve for teams couldn't go wrong.
INTERESTING POINTS:
There was a lot more people this time around who chose unsure as an answer. A little surprising, but with more voters compared to last time, I think its safe to say that just happens when more people chime in.
Templar had one of the biggest drops from S to B tier, despite their solo ability not really being touched much. Shaman and Archivist had similar drops, but they have been altered in their solo capacity.
Praenomen jumped up in solo, from C to A tier. The biggest change for them is likely the loss of a healing malus at low blood thanks to the Sanguine ability. The minion is also harder to outright kill. Sciomancer also rose but they are a completely new class compared to last time.
Teams mostly remained the same without too much of a shift. Less S tier classes however.
Finally, there was 13 voters from shadow, 14 from spirit, and 4 from both.
We've hit 31 voters, and I don't think there's likely to be anymore. So here is the tally! I've also included how each class has moved compared to their previous position.
SOLO TIER:
S Tier:
Sciomancer = 1 x 21, 2 x 5, 3 x 1, 4 x 1 (3) = 1.35 [+C]
Luminary = 1 x 21, 2 x 4, 3 x 3, (3) = 1.36 [+A]
A Tier:
Wayfarer = 1 x 17, 2 x 8, 3 x 2, 4 x 1, (3) = 1.54 [+B]
Indorani = 1 x 10, 2 x 13, 3 x 3, 4 x 1, (4) = 1.81 [==]
Teradrim = 1 x 11, 2 x 11, 3 x 2, 4 x 1, 5 x 1, (5) = 1.85 [+B]
Praenomen = 1 x 2, 2 x 13, 3 x 9, 4 x 1, (6) = 1.96 [+C]
B Tier:
Sentinel = 1 x 7, 2 x 12, 3 x 4, 4 x 1, 5 x 1, (6) = 2.08 [-A]
Shaman = 1 x 7, 2 x 11, 3 x 8, 4 x 1, (4) = 2.11 [-S]
Archivist = 1 x 3, 2 x 15, 3 x 7, 4 x 1, (5) = 2.23 [-S]
Zealot = 1 x 6, 2 x 10, 3 x 7, 4 x 1, 5 x 1, (6) = 2.24 [+C]
Syssin = 1 x 9, 2 x 10, 3 x 3, 4 x 5, 5 x 1, (3) = 2.25 [-S]
Monk = 1 x 7, 2 x 7, 3 x 7, 4 x 2, 5 x 1, (7) = 2.29 [-A]
Carnifex / Warden = 1 x 2, 2 x 18, 3 x 3, 4 x 2, 5 x 2, (4) = 2.41 [==]
Templar / Revenant = 1 x 4, 2 x 11, 3 x 10, 4 x 2, 5 x 1, (3) = 2.46 [-S]
Shapeshifter = 1 x 4, 2 x 8, 3 x 11, 4 x 5, (3) = 2.61 [==]
C Tier:
Ascendril = 1 x 1, 2 x 6, 3 x 8, 4 x 7, 5 x 3, (6) = 3.20 [==]
TEAM TIER:
S Tier:
Luminary = 1 x 20, 2 x 7, 3 x 1, (3) = 1.32 [==]
A Tier:
Monk = 1 x 16, 2 x 8, 3 x 4, 4 x 1, (2) = 1.66 [-S]
Sentinel = 1 x 13, 2 x 11, 3 x 5, (2) = 1.72 [==]
Shaman = 1 x 11, 2 x 14, 3 x 4, (2) = 1.76 [-S]
Carnifex / Warden = 1 x 12, 2 x 10, 3 x 6, (3) = 1.78 [+B]
Ascendril = 1 x 12, 2 x 6, 3 x 9, 4 x 1, (3) = 1.96 [==]
B Tier:
Sciomancer = 1 x 10, 2 x 10, 3 x 4, 4 x 2, 5 x 2, (3) = 2.14 [-A]
Praenomen = 1 x 7, 2 x 13, 3 x 3, 4 x 3, 5 x 1, (4) = 2.19 [==]
Wayfarer = 1 x 7, 2 x 12, 3 x 7, 4 x 2, 5 x 1, (2) = 2.24 [==]
Shapeshifter = 1 x 5, 2 x 13, 3 x 9, 4 x 2, (2) = 2.28 [==]
Indorani = 1 x 8, 2 x 9, 3 x 7, 4 x 3, 5 x 1, (3) = 2.28 [-A]
Templar / Revenant = 1 x 5, 2 x 11, 3 x 9, 4 x 3, 5 x 1, (2) = 2.45 [-A]
Teradrim = 1 x 4, 2 x 12, 3 x 8, 4 x 2, 5 x 2, (3) = 2.5 [-A]
Archivist = 1 x 6, 2 x 8, 3 x 8, 4 x 2, 5 x 4, (3) = 2.64 [==]
Zealot = 1 x 1, 2 x 10, 3 x 9, 4 x 3, 5 x 2, (6) = 2.8 [+C]
C Tier:
Syssin = 2 x 4, 3 x 10, 4 x 8, 5 x 6, (3) = 3.57 [-B]
I'll do a little commentary like I did before, so here's a quick take-away from this.
TOP AND BOTTOM DOGS:
The new champion Sciomancer (solo) has risen, taking the mantle from what I thought would likely be either Luminary or Wayfarer. This isn't too much of a shock to me, they have a lot of powerful forks and some of their best afflictions cannot be cured by random means. They also have great defensive means.
Luminary (team) takes the cup in over all other classes when it comes to teams. No other class stands in its tier. They have a huge variety of powerful team skills and a great ability to fortify their teams position. They're also pretty tanky and can pop a number of skills to live for longer. It's pretty hard to think of what they don't do well.
Ascendril (solo) sits at the bottom despite being a relatively new class. There were some things that were cut from the affliction side before release, as the limb side of things seemed really strong. Perhaps its time they got some of the missing skills.
The position of Syssin (team) isn't unexpected. As an assassin class their theming and feel is supposed to be attractive to those who enjoy the lone wolf style of play. Having said that perhaps a few new tricks up their sleeve for teams couldn't go wrong.
INTERESTING POINTS:
There was a lot more people this time around who chose unsure as an answer. A little surprising, but with more voters compared to last time, I think its safe to say that just happens when more people chime in.
Templar had one of the biggest drops from S to B tier, despite their solo ability not really being touched much. Shaman and Archivist had similar drops, but they have been altered in their solo capacity.
Praenomen jumped up in solo, from C to A tier. The biggest change for them is likely the loss of a healing malus at low blood thanks to the Sanguine ability. The minion is also harder to outright kill. Sciomancer also rose but they are a completely new class compared to last time.
Teams mostly remained the same without too much of a shift. Less S tier classes however.
Finally, there was 13 voters from shadow, 14 from spirit, and 4 from both.
Keroc
12
Re: Class Viability pt. 3
The results are in!
With a total of 34 votes, we now have the official tally and tier list of the community.
SOLO TIER:
S Tier:
Zealot / Ravager = 1 x 23, 2 x 4 (7) = 1.15 [up from B]
A Tier:
Wayfarer = 1 x 14, 2 x 14, 3 x 2 (4) = 1.60 [same]
Carnifex / Warden = 1 x 14, 2 x 13, 3 x 3, 4 x 1 (3) = 1.71 [up from B]
Teradrim / Tidesage = 1 x 11, 2 x 11, 3 x 3, 4 x 1 (8) = 1.77 [same]
B Tier:
Praenomen / Akkari = 1 x 12, 2 x 8, 3 x 5, 4 x 3, 5 x 1 (5) = 2.07 [down from A]
Luminary / Earthcaller = 1 x 7, 2 x 12, 3 x 5, 4 x 3 (7) = 2.15 [down from S]
Archivist = 1 x 5, 2 x 11, 3 x 5, 4 x 3 (10) = 2.25 [same]
Sentinel = 1 x 5, 2 x 10, 3 x 5, 4 x 3 (11) = 2.26 [same]
Ascendril = 1 x 5, 2 x 9, 3 x 6, 4 x 1, 5 x 1 (12) = 2.27 [up from C]
Monk = 1 x 6, 2 x 9, 3 x 6, 4 x 4 (9) = 2.32 [same]
Templar / Revenant = 1 x 3, 2 x 13, 3 x 10, 4 x 2 (6) = 2.39 [same]
B- Tier:
Shapeshifter = 1 x 5, 2 x 10, 3 x 7, 4 x 5, 5 x 1 (6) = 2.54 [same]
Shaman / Alchemist = 1 x 3, 2 x 10, 3 x 5, 4 x 6, 5 x 1 (9) = 2.68 [same]
Indorani / Oneiromancer = 1 x 2, 2 x 8, 3 x 12, 4 x 4 (8) = 2.69 [down from A]
Syssin = 1 x 2, 2 x 9, 3 x 10, 4 x 6, 5 x 1 (6) = 2.82 [same]
Sciomancer = 1 x 5, 2 x 4, 3 x 7, 4 x 4, 5 x 3 (11) = 2.83 [down from S]
C Tier:
Bard = 1 x 2, 2 x 4, 3 x 2, 4 x 7, 5 x 5 (14) = 3.45 [new]
D Tier:
Level 200 Class = 1 x 1, 3 x 4, 4 x 3, 5 x 11 (15) = 4.21 [new]
TEAM TIER:
A+ Tier:
Luminary / Earthcaller = 1 x 15, 2 x 9, 3 x 2 (8) = 1.50 [down from S]
A Tier:
Shaman / Alchemist = 1 x 13, 2 x 10, 3 x 4 (7) = 1.67 [same]
Carnifex / Warden = 1 x 18, 2 x 8, 3 x 4, 4 x 2 (2) = 1.69 [same]
Archivist = 1 x 14, 2 x 8, 3 x 3, 4 x 2 (7) = 1.74 [up from B]
Sentinel = 1 x 13, 2 x 10, 3 x 2, 4 x 2 (7) = 1.74 [same]
Monk = 1 x 12, 2 x 9, 3 x 4, 4 x 1 (8) = 1.77 [same]
Praenomen / Akkari = 1 x 13, 2 x 10, 3 x 4, 3 x 4 (4) = 1.84 [up from B]
Wayfarer = 1 x 12, 2 x 9, 3 x 6, 4 x 1 (6) = 1.86 [up from B]
Indorani / Oneiromancer = 1 x 9, 2 x 13, 3 x 6 (6) = 1.89 [up from B]
Shapeshifter = 1 x 11, 2 x 7, 3 x 9, 4 x 4, 5 x 1 (2) = 1.97 [up from B]
B Tier:
Bard = 1 x 9, 2 x 8, 3 x 4, 4 x 4, 5 x 1 (9) = 2.23 [new]
Templar / Revenant = 1 x 8, 2 x 10, 3 x 7, 4 x 4 (5) = 2.24 [same]
Teradrim / Tidesage = 1 x 7, 2 x 9, 3 x 8, 4 x 3 (7) = 2.26 [same]
Level 200 Class = 1 x 6, 2 x 5, 3 x 6, 4 x 1, 5 x 2 (14) = 2.40 [new]
Ascendril = 1 x 4, 2 x 6, 3 x 8, 4 x 3 (12) = 2.48 [down from A]
Zealot / Ravager = 1 x 8, 2 x 4, 3 x 9, 4 x 3, 5 x 2 (7) = 2.50 [same]
Sciomancer = 1 x 1, 2 x 9, 3 x 11, 4 x 3, 5 x 2 (8) = 2.85 [same]
C Tier:
Syssin = 1 x 1, 2 x 3, 3 x 12, 4 x 9, 5 x 2 (7) = 3.30 [same]
And now for a little commentary! Just note I'm probably going to ignore Level 200 classes, they are intentionally weaker then the rest of them.
TOP AND BOTTOM DOGS:
Without much surprise, Zealot / Ravager (solo) heads the rankings after winning the last couple of Duels in a row. The explosive power they can output in pushing quickly towards Immolation / Extinguish, along with the removal of Renew pushes this class over the limit a bit. It'll likely see some rebalancing fairly soon.
Luminary / Earthcaller (team) holding the top rank is somewhat of a surprise to me, as they aren't seen very often in team compositions. Despite the Overwhelm / Deface nerf being the most recent major change to them, they still hold that number one spot in most people's minds. The rest of their kit is nothing to scoff at, perhaps this is why they sit at the top.
Bard (solo) sits far at the bottom of the tier list, the most new class of the game. This is a somewhat common trend when it comes to new classes, as both Archivist and Zealot went through similiar feelings on their release. Perhaps there is more weight to the opinion this time, as it is neutral and accessible to all.
Syssin (team) claim the bottom of the team tier list for a second time. Despite a few buffs recently, perhaps it is time for some bigger buffs to the class, who also remains low in the solo list too.
INTERESTING POINTS:
There is a growing amount of people who are unsure of how to rank a class in its capabilities, almost double the amount compared to last time class viability was polled.
Sciomancers fell down from S to B- tier, although I believe it has been proven a few times that the removal of Renew has lifted their competitiveness after some of the bigger nerfs they received.
Luminary / Earthcaller have also fallen down from S to B tier. They might actually be worse off then Sciomancers, as Fitness becoming available to all might be a bigger issue for them then everyone losing Renew.
Indorani / Oneiromancer also dropped a bit, perhaps fueled by Fitness becoming accessible to everyone. It can make aeon a lot harder to stick with asthma, which may reflect this change in thought.
Something I am noticing is that there hasn't been too much of a shift in what is considered powerful in team combat through the last couple of surveys, which might indicate that it is time to give team-oriented skills some bigger changes to refresh the meta. People do seem to be rating a number of classes just overall higher in general, which may further support that the team scene might be a bit too sterile.
We also have a few less people voting from Spirit now, compared to past surveys. It's usually been about even. There were 22 Shadow votes, 11 Spirit votes, and 1 voter who marked both.
With a total of 34 votes, we now have the official tally and tier list of the community.
SOLO TIER:
S Tier:
Zealot / Ravager = 1 x 23, 2 x 4 (7) = 1.15 [up from B]
A Tier:
Wayfarer = 1 x 14, 2 x 14, 3 x 2 (4) = 1.60 [same]
Carnifex / Warden = 1 x 14, 2 x 13, 3 x 3, 4 x 1 (3) = 1.71 [up from B]
Teradrim / Tidesage = 1 x 11, 2 x 11, 3 x 3, 4 x 1 (8) = 1.77 [same]
B Tier:
Praenomen / Akkari = 1 x 12, 2 x 8, 3 x 5, 4 x 3, 5 x 1 (5) = 2.07 [down from A]
Luminary / Earthcaller = 1 x 7, 2 x 12, 3 x 5, 4 x 3 (7) = 2.15 [down from S]
Archivist = 1 x 5, 2 x 11, 3 x 5, 4 x 3 (10) = 2.25 [same]
Sentinel = 1 x 5, 2 x 10, 3 x 5, 4 x 3 (11) = 2.26 [same]
Ascendril = 1 x 5, 2 x 9, 3 x 6, 4 x 1, 5 x 1 (12) = 2.27 [up from C]
Monk = 1 x 6, 2 x 9, 3 x 6, 4 x 4 (9) = 2.32 [same]
Templar / Revenant = 1 x 3, 2 x 13, 3 x 10, 4 x 2 (6) = 2.39 [same]
B- Tier:
Shapeshifter = 1 x 5, 2 x 10, 3 x 7, 4 x 5, 5 x 1 (6) = 2.54 [same]
Shaman / Alchemist = 1 x 3, 2 x 10, 3 x 5, 4 x 6, 5 x 1 (9) = 2.68 [same]
Indorani / Oneiromancer = 1 x 2, 2 x 8, 3 x 12, 4 x 4 (8) = 2.69 [down from A]
Syssin = 1 x 2, 2 x 9, 3 x 10, 4 x 6, 5 x 1 (6) = 2.82 [same]
Sciomancer = 1 x 5, 2 x 4, 3 x 7, 4 x 4, 5 x 3 (11) = 2.83 [down from S]
C Tier:
Bard = 1 x 2, 2 x 4, 3 x 2, 4 x 7, 5 x 5 (14) = 3.45 [new]
D Tier:
Level 200 Class = 1 x 1, 3 x 4, 4 x 3, 5 x 11 (15) = 4.21 [new]
TEAM TIER:
A+ Tier:
Luminary / Earthcaller = 1 x 15, 2 x 9, 3 x 2 (8) = 1.50 [down from S]
A Tier:
Shaman / Alchemist = 1 x 13, 2 x 10, 3 x 4 (7) = 1.67 [same]
Carnifex / Warden = 1 x 18, 2 x 8, 3 x 4, 4 x 2 (2) = 1.69 [same]
Archivist = 1 x 14, 2 x 8, 3 x 3, 4 x 2 (7) = 1.74 [up from B]
Sentinel = 1 x 13, 2 x 10, 3 x 2, 4 x 2 (7) = 1.74 [same]
Monk = 1 x 12, 2 x 9, 3 x 4, 4 x 1 (8) = 1.77 [same]
Praenomen / Akkari = 1 x 13, 2 x 10, 3 x 4, 3 x 4 (4) = 1.84 [up from B]
Wayfarer = 1 x 12, 2 x 9, 3 x 6, 4 x 1 (6) = 1.86 [up from B]
Indorani / Oneiromancer = 1 x 9, 2 x 13, 3 x 6 (6) = 1.89 [up from B]
Shapeshifter = 1 x 11, 2 x 7, 3 x 9, 4 x 4, 5 x 1 (2) = 1.97 [up from B]
B Tier:
Bard = 1 x 9, 2 x 8, 3 x 4, 4 x 4, 5 x 1 (9) = 2.23 [new]
Templar / Revenant = 1 x 8, 2 x 10, 3 x 7, 4 x 4 (5) = 2.24 [same]
Teradrim / Tidesage = 1 x 7, 2 x 9, 3 x 8, 4 x 3 (7) = 2.26 [same]
Level 200 Class = 1 x 6, 2 x 5, 3 x 6, 4 x 1, 5 x 2 (14) = 2.40 [new]
Ascendril = 1 x 4, 2 x 6, 3 x 8, 4 x 3 (12) = 2.48 [down from A]
Zealot / Ravager = 1 x 8, 2 x 4, 3 x 9, 4 x 3, 5 x 2 (7) = 2.50 [same]
Sciomancer = 1 x 1, 2 x 9, 3 x 11, 4 x 3, 5 x 2 (8) = 2.85 [same]
C Tier:
Syssin = 1 x 1, 2 x 3, 3 x 12, 4 x 9, 5 x 2 (7) = 3.30 [same]
And now for a little commentary! Just note I'm probably going to ignore Level 200 classes, they are intentionally weaker then the rest of them.
TOP AND BOTTOM DOGS:
Without much surprise, Zealot / Ravager (solo) heads the rankings after winning the last couple of Duels in a row. The explosive power they can output in pushing quickly towards Immolation / Extinguish, along with the removal of Renew pushes this class over the limit a bit. It'll likely see some rebalancing fairly soon.
Luminary / Earthcaller (team) holding the top rank is somewhat of a surprise to me, as they aren't seen very often in team compositions. Despite the Overwhelm / Deface nerf being the most recent major change to them, they still hold that number one spot in most people's minds. The rest of their kit is nothing to scoff at, perhaps this is why they sit at the top.
Bard (solo) sits far at the bottom of the tier list, the most new class of the game. This is a somewhat common trend when it comes to new classes, as both Archivist and Zealot went through similiar feelings on their release. Perhaps there is more weight to the opinion this time, as it is neutral and accessible to all.
Syssin (team) claim the bottom of the team tier list for a second time. Despite a few buffs recently, perhaps it is time for some bigger buffs to the class, who also remains low in the solo list too.
INTERESTING POINTS:
There is a growing amount of people who are unsure of how to rank a class in its capabilities, almost double the amount compared to last time class viability was polled.
Sciomancers fell down from S to B- tier, although I believe it has been proven a few times that the removal of Renew has lifted their competitiveness after some of the bigger nerfs they received.
Luminary / Earthcaller have also fallen down from S to B tier. They might actually be worse off then Sciomancers, as Fitness becoming available to all might be a bigger issue for them then everyone losing Renew.
Indorani / Oneiromancer also dropped a bit, perhaps fueled by Fitness becoming accessible to everyone. It can make aeon a lot harder to stick with asthma, which may reflect this change in thought.
Something I am noticing is that there hasn't been too much of a shift in what is considered powerful in team combat through the last couple of surveys, which might indicate that it is time to give team-oriented skills some bigger changes to refresh the meta. People do seem to be rating a number of classes just overall higher in general, which may further support that the team scene might be a bit too sterile.
We also have a few less people voting from Spirit now, compared to past surveys. It's usually been about even. There were 22 Shadow votes, 11 Spirit votes, and 1 voter who marked both.
Keroc
12
Second War of Night - Retrospective
The Second Night War is finally over and what a wild ride it was! The War for Sterion started all the way back in late June and we're now staring down the end of September having just come out the other side of what is one of the longest and most elaborate events in IRE history. The last few events posts are now up and as promised, the postmortem is here filled with trivia, anecdotes, insights into the decision making process, and a number of broader thoughts and opinions.
Before I get into all that though, I want to dole out some raves and give credit to people without whom this would never have been possible. First up is @Razmael - the amount of time and energy Raz put into bringing all of our (mostly his) ideas to life is nothing less than astonishing. I couldn't possibly ask for a better partner in crime when it comes to story, event mechanics, mirror classes, and of course feature creep. So many parts of this event came about from his ideas and he put up with endless code requests from me and made the execution of the most elaborate parts as easy as giving me a command to type. The #1 hero of this event by far.
@Keroc was an absolute monster of boss creation and fight mechanics, he committed to a significant update to the ylem system, toiled away at war, fixed infinite bugs, and basically held the game together with his bare hands for weeks. @Tedrunai gave us all a masterclass in progs, creating tons of mechanics including the incredible tower defence game, spiritsabres, bombs, the Arbothian heist dungeon, and more. One of the most difficult parts of running this event was the immense amount of different mechanics and features, and Ted picked up a huge amount of slack here. @Iseult did the same, cleaning up endless bugs and problems as well as heavily customising the Papers, Please game. @Skog made bosses and also helped a ton with prog work.
@Brax was always on hand to help with mirror design and to keep me going with hype and ideas. @Zeheia spent an inordinate amount of time on proofreading and fixing errors. @Raah singlehandedly came up with the Dictum duamvi terms and all of the Czjetijan phrases. @Doloris did a large amount of work on the moon ritual, RPing with the Exarchs, concepted a big part of Ravager, and should be credited for the idea of the shadowbound-disconnection. @Izana was instrumental in Spinesreach and also played an Exarch, as well as providing lots of input on the storyline as a whole. And of course @Haelra, and @Xaspher for a lot of the supporting RP throughout.
Now for some trivia! Unfortunately I don't have data on certain things, including the much-requested 'most shadowspawn killed', though I'm posthumously awarding that to Dejaani.
- First and most important: only one loyal follower sent an email to Mother, and it was @Markos!
- Most of the team had no idea what was going to happen in the finale, and were just as shocked as you!
- The max number of people I saw online during the finale was 148. That is the highest I've ever seen in Aetolia.
- Saluria was only picked as the site of the first shard due to a bug very early on in the event that caused shadowspawn to appear there, which some people latched onto with speculation.
- The months frequently lining up with their Gods in the story was completely coincidental.
- At one point in August I woke up to absolute pandemonium and panic in the Pools because Google had locked us out of our docs (where most of the planning, including both mirrors, were stored)
- 1468 rooms were overtaken by shadowrot.
- Hippos were devoured by the rot on 73 occasions. 47 of these were Iesid's.
- 96 people became Shadowbound, as well as most NPCs across the game showing as shadowbound in their names.
- In total, 47 shadowbreaks were carried out (Lenoriel was present at 43 of them, the most by far!)
- Only one (1) reclusive mystic was harmed in the making of this event.
- 21648 corpses (Tetchta: 16178!), 6713 units of blood (Xarian 2440!), and 1008 ores (Kurak 731!) were used in the ritual to bind Ati.
- Ati cleared 70 rooms of rot (Sheryni cleared the most with Abhorash claiming the most chiav kills)
- Bloodloch raised 990 troops in their army of slaves for tower defence (credit goes to Gryph for raising 101 of them himself).
- 118 attempts were made by the Archivists before Linne succeeded in producing an artificial Shard of Truth.
- Enorian forged a total of 449 bells (props to Sryaen here for forging 166 of these himself!).
- The Illuminai forged a total of 670 dejanite to repair Ethne's bell (honourable mention to Annerissa for making 176 of them!).
- Enorian gathered a total of 12809 sand for Rhulin (Eliadon personally brought him 5929(!!!)) and made 276 glass (Damonicus wins this one with 152!)
- Spinesreach gathered a total of 7544 sand for Burkhart (Feirenz #1 with 2290!) and made 458 glass (Lenoriel wins with 214!)
- Duiran offered more than 5000 corpses to empower the Guardian Totems, which equated to 447698 totem essence. (Valorie wins both of these with 1295 and 149239 respectively!)
* The numbers are actually higher than this but the log cuts off at 5000 unfortunately.
- Spinesreach infected a total of 1152 eld (this was almost a tie between Aros, Legyn, and Lenoriel who did 698 between them!)
- Out of those 1152 infected eld, 425 of them were slain and absorbed into the pylons (Sheryni wins this with 67!).
- Spinesreach processed more than 5000 refugees. 3163 approved, 909 of which were shadowbound infiltrators. 1837 denied, 318 of which were shadowbound.
- Enorian processed a total of 2822 refugees. 2029 approved, 594 of which were shadowbound. 793 denied, 115 of which were shadowbound.
- Bloodloch processed a total of 2251 refugees. 852 approved, 235 of which were shadowbound. 1399 enslaved, 337 of which were shadowbound.
- The planning doc for this event is currently at 43482 words, and only includes about half of the actual event content since a LOT of the event was just us responding to things that happened.
- Raz informs me that the total event post length exceeds 60k.
- We decided to tie the Akkari and Ravager releases in before the event had even started, after only about 10 minutes persuasion from Raz.
And now the most important piece of data, who shouted the most out of over 5000 shouts during the event.
11th: Didi (119)
10th: Bulrok (125)
9th: Kalena (132)
8th: Kurak (140)
7th: Linne (161)
6th: Tetchta (183)
5th: Iesid (213)
4th: Rijetta (249)
3rd: Rasani (308)
2nd: Whirran (417)
1st: The Herald of Chaos (uncountable)
High Points
I asked some of the team to weigh in on this and I've also created a poll with a bunch of options for you to vote on your high points.
Me: The emotions in the finale with Damariel ringing the bell; the insane defence of Kald; everything Chaos Court; the Moon Ritual; Iosyne's Order 66; the Archivist diagrammatics; the infamous botched bell heist; all things Org identity.
Keroc: Seeing 150 people online was pretty cool.
Razmael: Seeing all the orgs embrace their identity and Bloodloch's transformation from just a few short months ago.
Iseult: Dhar saving Ivoln's ass; Papers, Please: Spinesreach autodenying Mulariads.
Skog: The ylem heist arc.
Tedrunai: The Chaos Herald murdering Whirran with his trumpet.
Brax: The esteem explosion + insane player count for the finale.
Ra'ah: Showcasing the planar languages including Ael'mael's use of Dumavai.
Izana: Seeing all the cities get their own spotlight that really helped drive their direction, and also seeing them get REAL hype about it and running with them.
Doloris: Getting the opportunity to really re-engage Duiran with their Guardian lore and seeing it take on a whole new life (pun intended).
Zeheia: The city-wide Pit of Xa'azamit (may she live forever).
Everyone: Seeing the 1v1v1v1 becoming a viable option.
Challenges
I'd say the biggest challenge was keeping up the momentum, especially after the initial flurry set such a fast pace. That, coupled with some struggles with ideas on how to achieve some of what we wanted to do meant there were some slow weeks here and there. On that same note we relied heavily on a lot of player ideas and this was one of the best parts (see below for my thoughts on this as a whole).
However, despite our best intentions, we simply couldn't physically respond to every outreach or request or idea. Given the scope of the story, I don't think the event necessarily went on too long, but the unplanned nature definitely meant it lacked the structure and cadence that a classically organised event would have.
Timezones are always a concern but I think there was enough content in this event that we did the best we could in that area, and made use of EVENTS a lot more to be accomodating.
"Just Do It": A Diatribe on Agency
Moreso than any other event I've ever witnessed or been part of, this one really shone a spotlight on the power that players have to both affect the world in ways big and small, to impact the narrative, to have ideas become reality, and to define the identity of their organisations in ways that are now, in my opinion, some of the best they've ever been.
I want to talk about this more because I think it's an often overlooked aspect of playing MUDs and while it obviously isn't going to be like this every time, and expectations should be realistic as a whole, I do think that there's a lesson here that everyone can learn: 'just do it' or 'just try it'.
As this story unfolded, we leaned heavily on player input and suggestions in order to figure out our way from A-Z, and we took every opportunity available to put important decisions into the hands of players as often as we could, and to react to things players were doing in order to guide the narrative. Off the top of my head, some of these include:
- Duiran's war starting the entire event to begin with, as well as Sibatti's idea with songlines emerging as one of the very first mechanics we made.
- Most of the city-specific event mechanics (spirit tech (Lenoriel), eld infections (Legyn), songlines (Sibatti), antirot paste (Bulrok), Ascendril shrouds (Kaiara), the entire process of shadowbreaking (Wjoltyr/Raynia), the trenches at the Keep (Mjoll), telepathy forewarning of incursions (Aisling), silvergrit empowerment (Mjoll/Whirran), shadowbane darts (Roux/Ardent)), and likely more I'm forgetting.
- Enorian's choice of Severn's fate, and their rebranding as the Hammer of Dawn.
- Spinesreach's pact with Tanixalthas and their rebranding as the Dragon of the North.
- Duiran desperately contacting Varian about Dendara, leading to the moon ritual and the creation of Dia'ruis
- Bloodloch choosing to stand alone no matter what, seriously reinforcing their themes to such an extent that they got to make a choice about the fate of their patron, resulting in the death of Iosyne.
- The defence of Kald which began with one person's (Reave's) lone vigil, transforming into one of the largest side-segments imaginable (Rasani, Kalena, Eaku, Mjoll, Iesid, Rijetta + others were so influential here).
- How to bring about the ylem theft/subsequent detonation was largely devised by Spinesreach solely with the mandate of 'steal all the ylem'.
- Negotiations with the Chaos Court were almost all decided by player input (Rijetta, Bulrok, Xenia, Sheryni all affected the way these went).
- Et al.
The point of me recanting all of this is to really emphasise the impact you can have on the game simply by adopting a 'just do it' mentality. Don't wait for an admin or a God to tell you that you can do something (within reasonable game rules and expectations, naturally, and without Godmoding or attempting to force outcomes); don't be paralysed by feelings of helplessness or inability, because there's almost always SOMETHING you can do. There is no more surefire way of garnering admin support than by going out on a limb and just saying to hell with the consequences and trying it anyway.
Sometimes it won't work out. Sometimes you'll lose. Sometimes it might not go anywhere due to resources, lore, or some other reason. Sometimes it'll straight up backfire. But sometimes it might even start a global apocalypse.
Closing Thoughts
This was an absolutely thrilling event to run and I couldn't be happier with how it went overall. As always, there are lessons for us to learn and take away from this, but on the whole I'm extremely proud of both the team and of the playerbase - the reactions, the drama, the highs and lows, the schemes, the plots, the fighting, the conflict, the gradual unwinding of diluted, tethered orgs, the shouting (I'd be remiss if I didn't at least make a passing mention here to Iesid, Rasani, Rijetta, Whirran, Linne, Tetchta, and others), the public news post wars, and the absolute rollercoaster of emotions that are, ultimately, why we are all here sharing this weird and wonderful corner of the internet.
I'd love to hear your thoughts and opinions, your responses to the polls, and your questions, which I'll do my best to answer so long as they don't touch on what if scenarios, since I'd rather not go into that.
- Icti
Before I get into all that though, I want to dole out some raves and give credit to people without whom this would never have been possible. First up is @Razmael - the amount of time and energy Raz put into bringing all of our (mostly his) ideas to life is nothing less than astonishing. I couldn't possibly ask for a better partner in crime when it comes to story, event mechanics, mirror classes, and of course feature creep. So many parts of this event came about from his ideas and he put up with endless code requests from me and made the execution of the most elaborate parts as easy as giving me a command to type. The #1 hero of this event by far.
@Keroc was an absolute monster of boss creation and fight mechanics, he committed to a significant update to the ylem system, toiled away at war, fixed infinite bugs, and basically held the game together with his bare hands for weeks. @Tedrunai gave us all a masterclass in progs, creating tons of mechanics including the incredible tower defence game, spiritsabres, bombs, the Arbothian heist dungeon, and more. One of the most difficult parts of running this event was the immense amount of different mechanics and features, and Ted picked up a huge amount of slack here. @Iseult did the same, cleaning up endless bugs and problems as well as heavily customising the Papers, Please game. @Skog made bosses and also helped a ton with prog work.
@Brax was always on hand to help with mirror design and to keep me going with hype and ideas. @Zeheia spent an inordinate amount of time on proofreading and fixing errors. @Raah singlehandedly came up with the Dictum duamvi terms and all of the Czjetijan phrases. @Doloris did a large amount of work on the moon ritual, RPing with the Exarchs, concepted a big part of Ravager, and should be credited for the idea of the shadowbound-disconnection. @Izana was instrumental in Spinesreach and also played an Exarch, as well as providing lots of input on the storyline as a whole. And of course @Haelra, and @Xaspher for a lot of the supporting RP throughout.
Now for some trivia! Unfortunately I don't have data on certain things, including the much-requested 'most shadowspawn killed', though I'm posthumously awarding that to Dejaani.
- First and most important: only one loyal follower sent an email to Mother, and it was @Markos!
- Most of the team had no idea what was going to happen in the finale, and were just as shocked as you!
- The max number of people I saw online during the finale was 148. That is the highest I've ever seen in Aetolia.
- Saluria was only picked as the site of the first shard due to a bug very early on in the event that caused shadowspawn to appear there, which some people latched onto with speculation.
- The months frequently lining up with their Gods in the story was completely coincidental.
- At one point in August I woke up to absolute pandemonium and panic in the Pools because Google had locked us out of our docs (where most of the planning, including both mirrors, were stored)
- 1468 rooms were overtaken by shadowrot.
- Hippos were devoured by the rot on 73 occasions. 47 of these were Iesid's.
- 96 people became Shadowbound, as well as most NPCs across the game showing as shadowbound in their names.
- In total, 47 shadowbreaks were carried out (Lenoriel was present at 43 of them, the most by far!)
- Only one (1) reclusive mystic was harmed in the making of this event.
- 21648 corpses (Tetchta: 16178!), 6713 units of blood (Xarian 2440!), and 1008 ores (Kurak 731!) were used in the ritual to bind Ati.
- Ati cleared 70 rooms of rot (Sheryni cleared the most with Abhorash claiming the most chiav kills)
- Bloodloch raised 990 troops in their army of slaves for tower defence (credit goes to Gryph for raising 101 of them himself).
- 118 attempts were made by the Archivists before Linne succeeded in producing an artificial Shard of Truth.
- Enorian forged a total of 449 bells (props to Sryaen here for forging 166 of these himself!).
- The Illuminai forged a total of 670 dejanite to repair Ethne's bell (honourable mention to Annerissa for making 176 of them!).
- Enorian gathered a total of 12809 sand for Rhulin (Eliadon personally brought him 5929(!!!)) and made 276 glass (Damonicus wins this one with 152!)
- Spinesreach gathered a total of 7544 sand for Burkhart (Feirenz #1 with 2290!) and made 458 glass (Lenoriel wins with 214!)
- Duiran offered more than 5000 corpses to empower the Guardian Totems, which equated to 447698 totem essence. (Valorie wins both of these with 1295 and 149239 respectively!)
* The numbers are actually higher than this but the log cuts off at 5000 unfortunately.
- Spinesreach infected a total of 1152 eld (this was almost a tie between Aros, Legyn, and Lenoriel who did 698 between them!)
- Out of those 1152 infected eld, 425 of them were slain and absorbed into the pylons (Sheryni wins this with 67!).
- Spinesreach processed more than 5000 refugees. 3163 approved, 909 of which were shadowbound infiltrators. 1837 denied, 318 of which were shadowbound.
- Enorian processed a total of 2822 refugees. 2029 approved, 594 of which were shadowbound. 793 denied, 115 of which were shadowbound.
- Bloodloch processed a total of 2251 refugees. 852 approved, 235 of which were shadowbound. 1399 enslaved, 337 of which were shadowbound.
- The planning doc for this event is currently at 43482 words, and only includes about half of the actual event content since a LOT of the event was just us responding to things that happened.
- Raz informs me that the total event post length exceeds 60k.
- We decided to tie the Akkari and Ravager releases in before the event had even started, after only about 10 minutes persuasion from Raz.
And now the most important piece of data, who shouted the most out of over 5000 shouts during the event.
11th: Didi (119)
10th: Bulrok (125)
9th: Kalena (132)
8th: Kurak (140)
7th: Linne (161)
6th: Tetchta (183)
5th: Iesid (213)
4th: Rijetta (249)
3rd: Rasani (308)
2nd: Whirran (417)
1st: The Herald of Chaos (uncountable)
High Points
I asked some of the team to weigh in on this and I've also created a poll with a bunch of options for you to vote on your high points.
Me: The emotions in the finale with Damariel ringing the bell; the insane defence of Kald; everything Chaos Court; the Moon Ritual; Iosyne's Order 66; the Archivist diagrammatics; the infamous botched bell heist; all things Org identity.
Keroc: Seeing 150 people online was pretty cool.
Razmael: Seeing all the orgs embrace their identity and Bloodloch's transformation from just a few short months ago.
Iseult: Dhar saving Ivoln's ass; Papers, Please: Spinesreach autodenying Mulariads.
Skog: The ylem heist arc.
Tedrunai: The Chaos Herald murdering Whirran with his trumpet.
Brax: The esteem explosion + insane player count for the finale.
Ra'ah: Showcasing the planar languages including Ael'mael's use of Dumavai.
Izana: Seeing all the cities get their own spotlight that really helped drive their direction, and also seeing them get REAL hype about it and running with them.
Doloris: Getting the opportunity to really re-engage Duiran with their Guardian lore and seeing it take on a whole new life (pun intended).
Zeheia: The city-wide Pit of Xa'azamit (may she live forever).
Everyone: Seeing the 1v1v1v1 becoming a viable option.
Challenges
I'd say the biggest challenge was keeping up the momentum, especially after the initial flurry set such a fast pace. That, coupled with some struggles with ideas on how to achieve some of what we wanted to do meant there were some slow weeks here and there. On that same note we relied heavily on a lot of player ideas and this was one of the best parts (see below for my thoughts on this as a whole).
However, despite our best intentions, we simply couldn't physically respond to every outreach or request or idea. Given the scope of the story, I don't think the event necessarily went on too long, but the unplanned nature definitely meant it lacked the structure and cadence that a classically organised event would have.
Timezones are always a concern but I think there was enough content in this event that we did the best we could in that area, and made use of EVENTS a lot more to be accomodating.
"Just Do It": A Diatribe on Agency
Moreso than any other event I've ever witnessed or been part of, this one really shone a spotlight on the power that players have to both affect the world in ways big and small, to impact the narrative, to have ideas become reality, and to define the identity of their organisations in ways that are now, in my opinion, some of the best they've ever been.
I want to talk about this more because I think it's an often overlooked aspect of playing MUDs and while it obviously isn't going to be like this every time, and expectations should be realistic as a whole, I do think that there's a lesson here that everyone can learn: 'just do it' or 'just try it'.
As this story unfolded, we leaned heavily on player input and suggestions in order to figure out our way from A-Z, and we took every opportunity available to put important decisions into the hands of players as often as we could, and to react to things players were doing in order to guide the narrative. Off the top of my head, some of these include:
- Duiran's war starting the entire event to begin with, as well as Sibatti's idea with songlines emerging as one of the very first mechanics we made.
- Most of the city-specific event mechanics (spirit tech (Lenoriel), eld infections (Legyn), songlines (Sibatti), antirot paste (Bulrok), Ascendril shrouds (Kaiara), the entire process of shadowbreaking (Wjoltyr/Raynia), the trenches at the Keep (Mjoll), telepathy forewarning of incursions (Aisling), silvergrit empowerment (Mjoll/Whirran), shadowbane darts (Roux/Ardent)), and likely more I'm forgetting.
- Enorian's choice of Severn's fate, and their rebranding as the Hammer of Dawn.
- Spinesreach's pact with Tanixalthas and their rebranding as the Dragon of the North.
- Duiran desperately contacting Varian about Dendara, leading to the moon ritual and the creation of Dia'ruis
- Bloodloch choosing to stand alone no matter what, seriously reinforcing their themes to such an extent that they got to make a choice about the fate of their patron, resulting in the death of Iosyne.
- The defence of Kald which began with one person's (Reave's) lone vigil, transforming into one of the largest side-segments imaginable (Rasani, Kalena, Eaku, Mjoll, Iesid, Rijetta + others were so influential here).
- How to bring about the ylem theft/subsequent detonation was largely devised by Spinesreach solely with the mandate of 'steal all the ylem'.
- Negotiations with the Chaos Court were almost all decided by player input (Rijetta, Bulrok, Xenia, Sheryni all affected the way these went).
- Et al.
The point of me recanting all of this is to really emphasise the impact you can have on the game simply by adopting a 'just do it' mentality. Don't wait for an admin or a God to tell you that you can do something (within reasonable game rules and expectations, naturally, and without Godmoding or attempting to force outcomes); don't be paralysed by feelings of helplessness or inability, because there's almost always SOMETHING you can do. There is no more surefire way of garnering admin support than by going out on a limb and just saying to hell with the consequences and trying it anyway.
Sometimes it won't work out. Sometimes you'll lose. Sometimes it might not go anywhere due to resources, lore, or some other reason. Sometimes it'll straight up backfire. But sometimes it might even start a global apocalypse.
Closing Thoughts
This was an absolutely thrilling event to run and I couldn't be happier with how it went overall. As always, there are lessons for us to learn and take away from this, but on the whole I'm extremely proud of both the team and of the playerbase - the reactions, the drama, the highs and lows, the schemes, the plots, the fighting, the conflict, the gradual unwinding of diluted, tethered orgs, the shouting (I'd be remiss if I didn't at least make a passing mention here to Iesid, Rasani, Rijetta, Whirran, Linne, Tetchta, and others), the public news post wars, and the absolute rollercoaster of emotions that are, ultimately, why we are all here sharing this weird and wonderful corner of the internet.
I'd love to hear your thoughts and opinions, your responses to the polls, and your questions, which I'll do my best to answer so long as they don't touch on what if scenarios, since I'd rather not go into that.
- Icti
Ictinus
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Aetolia Official Discord
Hey folks!
While the forums might not be as lively as they once were in 2015, that's not to say there is no longer avenues of engagement outside of the game.
Step on in, Discord!
If you're seeking a quick question to something in the game but struggling to find an answer, why not try your luck with those of us in the discord? There's plenty of conversation to be had about recent happenings within game, along with general non-sense and jokes if that's more up your stream.
You can find an invitation link below, if you so dare:
https://discord.gg/x2s7fY6
We also have integrated functionality with the game of a limited degree!
The list includes:
While the forums might not be as lively as they once were in 2015, that's not to say there is no longer avenues of engagement outside of the game.
Step on in, Discord!
If you're seeking a quick question to something in the game but struggling to find an answer, why not try your luck with those of us in the discord? There's plenty of conversation to be had about recent happenings within game, along with general non-sense and jokes if that's more up your stream.
You can find an invitation link below, if you so dare:
https://discord.gg/x2s7fY6
We also have integrated functionality with the game of a limited degree!
The list includes:
- Character verification (use the DISC VERIFY command in game to receive a code, and then !verify in the server to confirm it)
- Newbie channel integration; this goes both ways but requires your account to be verified in order to use it from the Discord server
- Automatic new threads for classlead submissions in the #combat channel
- Viewing honours (both short and full)
- Full EVENTS integration, allowing you to view and see details on all listings
- Full news integration including nstat and reading articles from any public section in the server
- Full HELP integration to read help files in the server
- Ability to see who is online using !who
- Ability to see the current in game date and time using !time
- Automatic posting of events, changes, and annnounce news posts into the #news channel
Keroc
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The Gray Accords Special Edition: Celebrating One Year of Ictinus!
As of right now, on August 14th 1PM ET, there is a plan to have our wonderful producer - Ictinus - on for a special stream!
I've made a google form to submit questions - 4 at a time, but you can resubmit as many times as you like. This will just make it easier for tracking purposes:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeqjdkbwqIwftzFGupRxpavRAgHDng9ObNxIOI_6HG7Y-H5Gg/viewform
And if you're not following us yet, here's the link to the Twitch channel:
I'll provide any updates as we go along preparing for this.
I've made a google form to submit questions - 4 at a time, but you can resubmit as many times as you like. This will just make it easier for tracking purposes:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeqjdkbwqIwftzFGupRxpavRAgHDng9ObNxIOI_6HG7Y-H5Gg/viewform
And if you're not following us yet, here's the link to the Twitch channel:
I'll provide any updates as we go along preparing for this.
Rihrin
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Announce post #3377: Conflict Events & Attitudes
6/30/2022 at 23:35
Ictinus, the Architect
Everyone
Conflict Events & Attitudes
Hi folks,
I think it's time we talk about attitudes a bit, especially as it pertains to conflict events or PK scenarios. Aetolia is an RP game and PK game and good conflict is essential to both. Without it, none of the events we have matter, nothing has any stakes, and the world becomes a stale, boring, safe haven with everyone in harmony. This isn't what the game was founded on and isn't the direction we've been taking it since I took over.
PK remains the pre-eminent method of conflict resolution between players. There's never going to be a city org vs city org event where there isn't some sort of PvP involved in it. That's just the nature of the game. If your org isn't in a position to back up their RP responsibilities with the required action to do so, that is a problem with the org that needs to be solved, it's not a flaw in the game or event design.
We've put a great deal of time and effort this year into bolstering org identity and themes and that work will continue. These sorts of high stakes, tense scenarios are important parts of that, and acting like you're being persecuted, bullied, mistreated, or griefed (we've heard all of these in the last 48 hours or so) is the wrong attitude to have, especially if you're in leadership or another position of responsibility. That attitude trickles down to the rest of the players in your org and actively dissuades others from participating in things.
In what is intended to be a grim dark / horror themed environment, expecting to be safe or otherwise indifferent to the perils of the world at large is not reasonable. Disaster is going to strike. Bad things are going to occur to your characters that are often outside of your control. Sometimes you are going to lose. When you join an organisation, you are making a choice to buy in to their themes, motives, goals, and ideals. That character choice is always in effect, not only when it's easy, and these difficult-choice situations are rare enough that it's not something that has to be dealt with or endured every single day.
If you have a problem with an event, another player, or an admin, then esteem is not the venue for your complaint. I am. The whole team sees these and if the extent of your feedback is to tell the people going out of their way to create content for you that they're wasting their time, then you can send it to me instead.
This post isn't only aimed at the current events in Sterion, and it should be pointed out that this event was entirely player initiated. We chose to facilitate that conflict with mechanical and RP support. I've noticed this prevailing attitude across the board from all orgs when it comes to conflict, and I want to go on the record now and remind you that it's immensely discouraging to everyone on my team when people treat these situations like they're some sort of conspiracy to ruin the game experience. They're not.
Penned by my hand on Kinsday, the 11th of Midsummer, in the year 503 MA.
Ictinus, the Architect
Everyone
Conflict Events & Attitudes
Hi folks,
I think it's time we talk about attitudes a bit, especially as it pertains to conflict events or PK scenarios. Aetolia is an RP game and PK game and good conflict is essential to both. Without it, none of the events we have matter, nothing has any stakes, and the world becomes a stale, boring, safe haven with everyone in harmony. This isn't what the game was founded on and isn't the direction we've been taking it since I took over.
PK remains the pre-eminent method of conflict resolution between players. There's never going to be a city org vs city org event where there isn't some sort of PvP involved in it. That's just the nature of the game. If your org isn't in a position to back up their RP responsibilities with the required action to do so, that is a problem with the org that needs to be solved, it's not a flaw in the game or event design.
We've put a great deal of time and effort this year into bolstering org identity and themes and that work will continue. These sorts of high stakes, tense scenarios are important parts of that, and acting like you're being persecuted, bullied, mistreated, or griefed (we've heard all of these in the last 48 hours or so) is the wrong attitude to have, especially if you're in leadership or another position of responsibility. That attitude trickles down to the rest of the players in your org and actively dissuades others from participating in things.
In what is intended to be a grim dark / horror themed environment, expecting to be safe or otherwise indifferent to the perils of the world at large is not reasonable. Disaster is going to strike. Bad things are going to occur to your characters that are often outside of your control. Sometimes you are going to lose. When you join an organisation, you are making a choice to buy in to their themes, motives, goals, and ideals. That character choice is always in effect, not only when it's easy, and these difficult-choice situations are rare enough that it's not something that has to be dealt with or endured every single day.
If you have a problem with an event, another player, or an admin, then esteem is not the venue for your complaint. I am. The whole team sees these and if the extent of your feedback is to tell the people going out of their way to create content for you that they're wasting their time, then you can send it to me instead.
This post isn't only aimed at the current events in Sterion, and it should be pointed out that this event was entirely player initiated. We chose to facilitate that conflict with mechanical and RP support. I've noticed this prevailing attitude across the board from all orgs when it comes to conflict, and I want to go on the record now and remind you that it's immensely discouraging to everyone on my team when people treat these situations like they're some sort of conspiracy to ruin the game experience. They're not.
Penned by my hand on Kinsday, the 11th of Midsummer, in the year 503 MA.
Autoposter
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Re: RL Struggles, Strife, and Sadnesses
Opening post:
For those who don't know, when someone reacts with "awesome" to a post, it shows up as a heart - and that feels like a very appropriate reaction for the idea behind the kinds of posts this thread is intended for. As such, I suggest that we consider that a known thread policy: Awesome = Heart.
Teani
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Rime - The PK System Mjoll Gave Me
Hi?!
I run a semi private system known as Rime with a few other friends. It was originally created in response to Sunder but due to me being me and having super human levels of procrastination, it's remained in closed beta for several years. Despite its original intent, it's no longer meant to compete with Sunder, it's simply become mine and several others system that we all use full time. Over the last couple of years I've managed to recruit some wonderful people who have helped with its continued development. It's finally user friendly enough that I thought I would release it openly like I had wanted to do originally.
DISCLAIMER: Duelists and group fighters have found varying levels of success on any number of systems across Aetolia and every other IRE. Using any one system instead of another is not going to magically elevate you to god tier status. You will be especially disappointed if you download Rime with intent of finding instant PvP prowess. It does have dueling capabilities, but they are all very standard and cookie cutter. All duelists who use Rime have their own personal offenses, hence forth referred to as 'sauce', and they are not included or available anywhere.
Below is a list of features that Rime has.
Rime currently supports the following classes: Archivist, Bard, Carnifex, Earthcaller (and Luminary, sans triggers), Indorani, Praenomen, Revenant, Sciomancer, Teradrim. Light support for Syssin and Shifter as not a lot of devs have either of those classes. The mirrored versions of these classes will be supported soon thanks to the method discovered when writing Earthcaller, though it will likely be missing Spirit side triggers. Mirrored support will be seamless and means that you only have to maintain one script for two classes (triggers will still be double the work).
Group and standard cookie cutter offensive routes for each of those classes!
Multi target tracking! If Mjoll and Iazamat are fighting Taj, me and Almol are fighting Xenia - If Taj hits the kill condition for my class while I'm targeting Xenia, Rime is able to fluidly and seamlessly kill Taj without ever even switching targets.
Aggression tracking to go along with multiple targets. Aggression tracking is just the number of times a person has been hit by abilities. This enables Rime users to be able to use ally support skills without relying on web calls (and subsequently needing anti-illusioning), or even being in a web.
State based offenses rather than standard for loop affliction priority lists. Most duelists offenses already rely on more than that, but the structure of a state based offense allows you to make any change imaginable to your offensive strategies while keeping your end game in your current route clear of clutter and hardcoded actions. The beauty of code is that every offense structure already used at large can still do the same thing as Rimes offenses are capable of doing, but I (and most of Rimes users) are very fond of the flexibility and organization of this type of offense structure.
An auto basher older than Toz! Rimes auto basher might be old, but it's still very solid and functional. The reason for it being so old is because I have not ran into many reasons to change it. A few defensive features were added by some of the devs who took bashing a little too seriously, but those are fully included now where applicable. The basher is powerful but the code is very rigid, but a PvE update is my next project for Rime.
An auto fisher! Like the basher, the code is very rigid, but its rewrite is coming alongside the rest of the PvE updates I have planned.
An auto harvester! I only learned it had one of these today! Neat?!
A forging script to remove some of the tedium!
A system with an encouraging personality! Rime is chock full of echo's to let you know when you've made mistakes in combat.
A fanciful and customizable UI via ZGUI (created by Zulah in Achaea.)
An emoji system that works with web/clans (even public IC channels if you're opened to being zapped for it), supporting over 1000 emojis in total (special thanks to Ephi and Holbrook for the idea and the gathering of emojis)
Commodity price tracker. Track your average spending on commodities to help you adjust prices!
There's a lot more, but those are the ones I can think off of the top of my head. There's also no telling how many unfinished projects I have lying around in the code, such as my own version of mxp clickables.
Another disclaimer is lack of Firstaid support. Rime uses client side curing for most everything. However, you can toggle between client side curing and Firstaid with one simple alias. Rimes curing will pause though the rest of the system will remain operational. Firstaid manipulation is on the list of things to get done, but it will require a lot of tedious work.
If you're interested in giving it a shot, you can join the Rime discord via this link: https://discord.gg/8msFd6werZ
Joining is mandatory to gain access to the download and for continued support. It's also my one and only attempt to enforce the black list. The list of people I don't want to have access to my system is small, but ultimately it comes down to you honoring my request to not give it out.
Joining the server will also grant you access to the (too) popular bounty system. Sometimes I have a lot to code, or a lot is going on in life, or I'm just too lazy to do something. So I'll post a small coding bounty along with a fair amount of credits as payment. One user in particular is apparently damned and determined to take every spare credit I have or will ever have.
Please leave any and all drama at the door before you click that invitation.
I run a semi private system known as Rime with a few other friends. It was originally created in response to Sunder but due to me being me and having super human levels of procrastination, it's remained in closed beta for several years. Despite its original intent, it's no longer meant to compete with Sunder, it's simply become mine and several others system that we all use full time. Over the last couple of years I've managed to recruit some wonderful people who have helped with its continued development. It's finally user friendly enough that I thought I would release it openly like I had wanted to do originally.
DISCLAIMER: Duelists and group fighters have found varying levels of success on any number of systems across Aetolia and every other IRE. Using any one system instead of another is not going to magically elevate you to god tier status. You will be especially disappointed if you download Rime with intent of finding instant PvP prowess. It does have dueling capabilities, but they are all very standard and cookie cutter. All duelists who use Rime have their own personal offenses, hence forth referred to as 'sauce', and they are not included or available anywhere.
Below is a list of features that Rime has.
Rime currently supports the following classes: Archivist, Bard, Carnifex, Earthcaller (and Luminary, sans triggers), Indorani, Praenomen, Revenant, Sciomancer, Teradrim. Light support for Syssin and Shifter as not a lot of devs have either of those classes. The mirrored versions of these classes will be supported soon thanks to the method discovered when writing Earthcaller, though it will likely be missing Spirit side triggers. Mirrored support will be seamless and means that you only have to maintain one script for two classes (triggers will still be double the work).
Group and standard cookie cutter offensive routes for each of those classes!
Multi target tracking! If Mjoll and Iazamat are fighting Taj, me and Almol are fighting Xenia - If Taj hits the kill condition for my class while I'm targeting Xenia, Rime is able to fluidly and seamlessly kill Taj without ever even switching targets.
Aggression tracking to go along with multiple targets. Aggression tracking is just the number of times a person has been hit by abilities. This enables Rime users to be able to use ally support skills without relying on web calls (and subsequently needing anti-illusioning), or even being in a web.
State based offenses rather than standard for loop affliction priority lists. Most duelists offenses already rely on more than that, but the structure of a state based offense allows you to make any change imaginable to your offensive strategies while keeping your end game in your current route clear of clutter and hardcoded actions. The beauty of code is that every offense structure already used at large can still do the same thing as Rimes offenses are capable of doing, but I (and most of Rimes users) are very fond of the flexibility and organization of this type of offense structure.
An auto basher older than Toz! Rimes auto basher might be old, but it's still very solid and functional. The reason for it being so old is because I have not ran into many reasons to change it. A few defensive features were added by some of the devs who took bashing a little too seriously, but those are fully included now where applicable. The basher is powerful but the code is very rigid, but a PvE update is my next project for Rime.
An auto fisher! Like the basher, the code is very rigid, but its rewrite is coming alongside the rest of the PvE updates I have planned.
An auto harvester! I only learned it had one of these today! Neat?!
A forging script to remove some of the tedium!
A system with an encouraging personality! Rime is chock full of echo's to let you know when you've made mistakes in combat.
A fanciful and customizable UI via ZGUI (created by Zulah in Achaea.)
An emoji system that works with web/clans (even public IC channels if you're opened to being zapped for it), supporting over 1000 emojis in total (special thanks to Ephi and Holbrook for the idea and the gathering of emojis)
Commodity price tracker. Track your average spending on commodities to help you adjust prices!
There's a lot more, but those are the ones I can think off of the top of my head. There's also no telling how many unfinished projects I have lying around in the code, such as my own version of mxp clickables.
Another disclaimer is lack of Firstaid support. Rime uses client side curing for most everything. However, you can toggle between client side curing and Firstaid with one simple alias. Rimes curing will pause though the rest of the system will remain operational. Firstaid manipulation is on the list of things to get done, but it will require a lot of tedious work.
If you're interested in giving it a shot, you can join the Rime discord via this link: https://discord.gg/8msFd6werZ
Joining is mandatory to gain access to the download and for continued support. It's also my one and only attempt to enforce the black list. The list of people I don't want to have access to my system is small, but ultimately it comes down to you honoring my request to not give it out.
Joining the server will also grant you access to the (too) popular bounty system. Sometimes I have a lot to code, or a lot is going on in life, or I'm just too lazy to do something. So I'll post a small coding bounty along with a fair amount of credits as payment. One user in particular is apparently damned and determined to take every spare credit I have or will ever have.
Please leave any and all drama at the door before you click that invitation.
Bulrok
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Announce post #3334: Problematic Behaviour & Some Advice
3/3/2022 at 19:26
Ictinus, the Architect
Everyone
Problematic Behaviour & Some Advice
Hi everyone,
On behalf of the team I'm writing to apologise to those of you who have recently been exposed to manipulative threats of suicide and other ooc-driven harassment from a certain individual with a years-long history of problematic behaviour that started on Achaea and has continued here.
Suicide is an extremely serious matter and I will not tolerate it being used as a weapon to emotionally manipulate people. This is never okay, and I don't want anyone to have to deal with it. I've now dealt with the individual in question and will continue to deal with future offenders should this occur again.
If you or someone you know is experiencing suicidal ideation, please contact a prevention hotline. These show proven results, and a list of them based on country can be found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_suicide_crisis_lines
If you find yourself in a situation where someone is making these types of threats towards you, please let us know by issuing yourself, and try to keep it subtle. If it happens on Discord, you are welcome to directly ping me and I will handle it.
Beyond that, I would just like to reaffirm again that we have a zero tolerance policy towards hatespeech, harassment, and seconds abuses (particularly when they facilitate the former). IGNORE is your friend. ISSUEs are your friend when ignore fails.
- Ictinus
Penned by my hand on Quensday, the 21st of Severin, in the year 501 MA.
Ictinus, the Architect
Everyone
Problematic Behaviour & Some Advice
Hi everyone,
On behalf of the team I'm writing to apologise to those of you who have recently been exposed to manipulative threats of suicide and other ooc-driven harassment from a certain individual with a years-long history of problematic behaviour that started on Achaea and has continued here.
Suicide is an extremely serious matter and I will not tolerate it being used as a weapon to emotionally manipulate people. This is never okay, and I don't want anyone to have to deal with it. I've now dealt with the individual in question and will continue to deal with future offenders should this occur again.
If you or someone you know is experiencing suicidal ideation, please contact a prevention hotline. These show proven results, and a list of them based on country can be found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_suicide_crisis_lines
If you find yourself in a situation where someone is making these types of threats towards you, please let us know by issuing yourself, and try to keep it subtle. If it happens on Discord, you are welcome to directly ping me and I will handle it.
Beyond that, I would just like to reaffirm again that we have a zero tolerance policy towards hatespeech, harassment, and seconds abuses (particularly when they facilitate the former). IGNORE is your friend. ISSUEs are your friend when ignore fails.
- Ictinus
Penned by my hand on Quensday, the 21st of Severin, in the year 501 MA.
Autoposter
24