Ankyrean Anguish - Aetolia-based RAGE

Phoenecia

Hurling long, ranty insults back and forth at people is a good way to get this thread closed. You have beef with someone? Whine at them in PMs or whine about them to someone else on other OOC mediums. It shouldn't take a mod to get that through your head. When other players ask you to quit it, you quit it.

Zarni

Ban them all! Let Raz sort 'em out.

Lin

/me Alright, chill the hell out. Let's find something else to discuss.

Zarni

I like FRIGGEN HATE ham IN AETOLIA ARRGH RAAAGH DESTROY IT FFFFFF

edit: edited for compliance to thread.

Tza

I haaaate that I can't even bash Ayesha decently without a blessing or some other additional form of damage reduction.

Resilent Syssin + lvl 81 =

Illikaal

If you hate Ayhesa, then you'll have a ragegasm at Xaanhal. 

Tza

Illidan said:

If you hate Ayhesa, then you'll have a ragegasm at Xaanhal. 

Yeah.. you know, I actually went there once and hit something. Just to see if I could survive ONE hit. Short answer: HELL NO.

I just find the not-at-all-existing tankiness of Syssin quite harsh. If you look at the other end of the spectrum, I was able to more or less breeze through Arbothia as a level 60 something Luminary. Yes, 60. (That's some years ago now, so I don't know how much the class has changed). Syssin can't even handle it at 80 with trans Avoidance. Mutter. Grumble. Raaaaaaage!!!

Eleanor

Man, I love being the Cabbie bashing master race over here.

What makes me sad is, I have an old character I want to play, but given how old they are and their backstory, there is no reason that they wouldn't be endgame by now. Which means I gotta roll up my sleeves

Teani

It might need some updating, and I know it varies depending on class and such, but the AREAS command lists Ayhesa as a level 90 area, just like Arbothia. Not being able to tank through them at level 80 seems reasonable to me. To be able to tank through them at level 60 seems ridiculous and I'd rather see a change to those skills that made that impossible.

Kaeus

Really wish the Sect of Blades was worth doing. As it is now, with all the bugs, I seem to always have no issue losing points. I rarely (I think maybe once) gain points for a valid sect kill. I'm negative points when I should easily have a good number of points between kills. Also the numerous bounties I've been unable to claim, thus being unable to claim points by that mean since claiming bounties is bugged!

Benedicto

I really miss/rage at that loss of magic and complete and utter immersion that I had for the first...year or so of playing Aetolia. Where everything I did seemed real and I was so absorbed in the game that it actually became a reality for me.

Ilyon

It's the same for everyone, I think. After some time you just become too familiar with how things work for the illusion/immersion to hold.

Emelle

And yet, we remain addicted...

Alexina

I feel fairly disillusioned from time to time, often because so many clans and webs seem to turn Aetolia into a glorified chatroom. When I roleplay with people and focus on my character, what is happening to her, how she feels about it, and how she responds, all the immersion comes back.

There has been times when Aetolia made me cry because the roleplay that was going on was just so sad. There's also been times when I've logged off the game because I just felt completely uninterested in the game and couldn't even be bothered to idle.

Aoiveae

I understand that sentiment @Alexina - I'm sort of feeling a bit of apathy recently and not sure why. I'm either hunting (aka dying) or idling usually especially lately. So, I suppose my rage is just not really knowing what to do or whats going on lots of the time, nor who to ask. (The Cabal are going through some changes at my char's GR so other than studying/reading up on skills thats a bit confusing for me, too.)
:-S

Lin

I think for some of us, it's a slow process that goes from enjoying the novelty of an unfamiliar and magical game, to wanting to make said game better so that others can enjoy that said novelty.

And of course you get a certain vicarious thrill from new players freaking out over how cool Aetolia can be.

Arbre

I drag anyone over level 21 around power bashing through Xaanhal.  My absolute favorite is taking truenewbs who took like two days to get to 21 and I get them to 55 in about 20-30 minutes.  They think I'm god.

Orisae

I still go through cycles of being bored stiff and then suddenly everything is MAGICAL AND WONDERFUL! Usually when it's starting to feel not so great, I cut back on the OOC contact with people or take a break.

Alexina

I once gave some Ve'kahi person (not a real truenewbie) a chalice and mint and got them from level 13 to 80 in a couple hours.

Then, I regretted wasting mint chocolate on other people.

>.<

Moirean

I did that to someone the other month and he quit Spines and moved to Duiran the next day.

Xiuhcoatl

Orisae said:

I still go through cycles of being bored stiff and then suddenly everything is MAGICAL AND WONDERFUL! Usually when it's starting to feel not so great, I cut back on the OOC contact with people or take a break.

If it happens over long periods of time, that's like the baseline for bipolar disorder. Granted, if it happens within a short period of time, within a day it's usually just your body being well your body. So you might want to get evaluated, you know? 

Orisae

I usually just call it winter.

Daskalos

Winter is coming.

Moirean

I hear it does that every year.

Hadoryu

[citation needed]

Tza

It helped me to just CLTOFF on the one ooc clan I'm in (nfc why I'm in there anyway). And have it remain off. Things got indefinitely better afterwards.

Generally, I have found it helps me keep immersion and remain interested in the game if I try to stay in-character at all times (webs are pretty much the only exception). Even if I have a borderline ooc question, I try to sugarcoat it enough that I can ask it IC or else just ask on forums.

Haven

Do you guys ever wonder if you're cheapening/lessening the Aetolian learning experience when you power bash newbies like that?

Like going from 21-80 in a day or few hours as a true newbie... You're cutting out a lot of quests they could be learning and then there's the lore/history that'll have to be piled on later to what they need to know which could be overwhelming.

When I was Head of Novices of the Infernals, I'd bash them up maybe 5-10 levels at a time then take them to areas fit for their level/class to show them the ropes and teach about the world/area in relation to our guild.

"Look at these puny mhuns! How they cower and allow themselves to be oppressed and slave away. Let me tell you a tale of Xaeon the goblin turned Knight." One of my favorite lore bits from the Infernals. Then we'd proceed to "cull the weak". I'd largely let them do it while I monitored for a while before leaving them to their own devices and explore on their own. Rinse repeat every few days until they hit level 70ish. Then watch them gradually get endgame before me! xD

I'm not trying to browbeat those who do powerbash newbies so high, so quickly or anything. I'm just curious about your thought process as I don't understand the need to rush them towards 80/endgame and skip a large part of the game? I dunno. Maybe I'm different.

Hadoryu

Bashing sucked, man. I was killing things for exp which was NOT giving me an immersion stiffy. And Aetolia's bashing altogether is some of THE most boring MUD hack-and-slash. I would have loved to have someone powerbash me up - all I cared about were those sweet skill gainz.

Lin

Look at it this way, if they're finishing up their early 80s, they get to go through the most boring part of bashing! So in a way they're still busting ass for it.

Haven

Lin said:

Look at it this way, if they're finishing up their early 80s, they get to go through the most boring part of bashing! So in a way they're still busting ass for it.

Leveling up to 75ish is ridiculously easy in my opinion. >_> I'd rather have the powerbashing occur afterwards cause 80-endgame is tear worthy. Not at all as bad as it used to be back in the day but damn... I don't think I've personally gone bashing as Haven ever since I hit level 101.25 to pick up gripping and heatsight.