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An unreasonable length of time? I literally went after one of the offenders shortly after and was issued for it. If it wasn't anywhere special, why were people going after it and making a stink about trying to get rid of it?
Your scenario is the exact same as mine. There's no "apples and oranges". You're doing it for tactical advantage, just as I was. And I went after people for touching the aegis, but just -me- unless I got retaliated on by a bunch of others. I was the one claiming retaliation because it was -my- aegis. Again, none of you have your mark on it.
There's no difference at all. You're just trying to justify yourself because it's your team doing this. I don't even play and I've played on both sides of the game longer than you've played in general. I'm calling you out specifically because I was decried and had my name ran through the mud on your Webs and Front Line for the very same thing you're doing now. What's ironic is that two of people I literally went after and issued me are two people guilty of doing it now.
Edit: Edit because I'm an idiot and thought you were talking to someone else 🤣🤣
"(Mass: ----, Nisavi, ----) Issue 21659: There was a great deal to unpack
here, but essentially this: An Aegis being set up and attacked is cause for the
person who owns the Aegis. We do not intend to have pages of PK rules, so
keeping it simple, your cause only lasts for a limited amount of time. Finding
the group in the act and having a little battle over it is plenty, we will not
approve an act that creates 'cause' like hash marks. We will not apply a set
amount of time for revenge if there was not a battle, but a RL day or so would
be logical. So... one death, no punishment, but do not use Aegis as means to
collect cause for later dates."
I think it's perfectly acceptable within RP reasons to want to defend an aegis that is around an major, global contention zone. If this was just a regular aegis in say, something as mundane as Orrery, okay, I get that. HELP AEGISPK states that those rules are lesser than the greater PK rules. From HELP PK itself, the first line of the second paragraph is 'your role defines your motives, not the other way around'. As the Vanguard of Enorian, a Templar Knight and a member of the Underking's order, I'd say my character's role is quite clear in what he wants to defend. And by extension, these characters (Nipsy, Kurak, Sheryni, Whirran, Yettave, Almol, Mjoll, Xolotl, and Dreww) who went alongside Ivoln also made their own role in this conflict quite clear.
The shrine thing.. okay, lmao. First off, I don't give a shit about the location of that Bama shrine in the Vashnar's under ordinary circumstances. However, as #3 states in this announce post, you're explicitly forbidden from killing someone simply for raising a shrine UNLESS that area has some significance to you or your organization. Considering the proximity of this shrine in question to the Spear of the Underking (3 rooms), I'd say it is quite significant to my character. I'd also like to note that Bamathis blessed both Bloodloch and Spinesreach, making his stance on the battle known to all. In addition, the characters who followed Ivoln into the Underhalls to steal from my character's god he follows and damage the soul mirror seems like pretty good grounds for hostility in this GLOBAL conflict.
I am truly sorry that exp loss is so heavy-handed as you get up to the higher levels and it's not my intention as a player to cause someone to lose out on the real-life investment of money or to cause someone to feel upset or angry or distraught. However, if that's something that's a concern to you, as a player, about potential loss of investment, then that's not on me to adjust my RP to take into consideration about how you, a player, would feel OOCly.
Tell me how I'm doing!
The difference is that Orrery isn't an event. It's about as 'relevant' for cause as a lesser or major, aka not. It's about as much 'story-driven' as a college football game is.
An event is an actual story-driven motivation.
You are trying to reduce the importance of a Roleplay/Story Event by relating it to 'Orrery That Happens Every Month'. I'm not buying it, no matter who is selling is.
Will remember.
Tell me how I'm doing!
Time and time again, we've stated our intention. We planted the aegises on the spears, and we defend the aegises on the spears when they are being taken down. Not once have we gone after someone NOT in the aegis's vicinity, not once have we set up a large series of them with the intent to draw in PK, and not once have we declared that we have the right to bring an entire tether to beat down one person. It hasn't happened.
Your mere presence in this conversation regarding current events is just a testament to your bitterness regarding past events.
It's not a testament to my bitterness though. It's me finding amusement in the hypocrisy when the shoe is on the other foot. And then when the tether balance flips in the opposite direction, as it always does, and the same thing is done to the other side (as it seems to always happen), I'll have to hear about how it's fair that one side is doing it, it's completely different from established precedent (despite it not), and how it's unfair that the other side did it.
I'm not on anyone's side here. I have no horse in this race in the slightest for the same reasons people have already stated: I'm not playing. I'm just heavily amused by the hypocrisy and mental gymnastics when the situations are the exact same. Orrery and the current event are conflict-based events. Doesn't matter if one happens once a month and one happens for the first time. The underlying motive for what you're doing is the exact same as when I did it. And the one of the reasons I know I'm right, and that you lot know I'm right, is the sheer number of y'all that have come out of the woodwork to do said mental gymnastics in an attempt to defend one of your own.
If you want to discuss aegis as it pertains to this event specifically, feel free to do so (without being jerks to each other) in another thread, but if said new thread retains the tone of this one, I can't promise it'll be open long.
Be cool to each other, c'mon.
Most of us have been playing Aetolia for a significant portion of our lives. We're now at the point of needing to stretch after breaking it down to yesterday's halftime show lest we start Monday with a sore back. We're too old to be fighting people over a game like this is a Call of Duty lobby.
Set fire to the rain….
I can’t believe a thread went 40 posts on conflict that a non player commented on and we just fed it gasoline. No one currently playing is complaining in this thread.
Do you…. But also know that you may get the do.
Be constructive and not a turd
Rules definitely are subjective if someone is winning, saying otherwise is silly.
What you gonna do, hotfix something mid event and then blame the admin.
Just play the game.
End rant.
It’s fucking Valentine’s Day y’all
Also @Brax I felt like Mary J Blige after her portion I just want to collapse
I hate this event. A whole, whole lot. I may write an essay on it. But probably not.
I cannot help that info I have shared, has not been shared amongst others...If you see me on, hit me up, that's the best I can offer.
Work schedule has been wild with new job as well.
Sounds like a Spirean issue though, there's definitely posts in Bloodloch, so I'll echo @Elene in saying clearly you're in the wrong city my Gnomish brethren.
I jest, ILY Spinesreach
BRB, gotta see if Enorian is sccepting new citizens.
She hates Gnomes, it will never happen btw.
@Wjoltyr, we are always accepting new citizens! I smell a Gnome rivalry incoming!
(jk I love when public pops off)
See how I snuck in that pet peeve there? Here's a less subtle one - having to call my short joke a not short joke b/c respect for @Nipsy
#sorrynotsorry