Small Ideas - AIN'T NO COMBAT THREAD

Moirean

Carnifex rebirth didn't used to have a CD and it was nerfed to include one because having people like me and Luna basically be unkillable at a lesser was seen as way unfair. I think starburst doesn't have a CD because it strips defs, but if arti'd up people started using a ton it'd probably get nerfed too.

Draiman

Well for 40 IC anyone can be unkillable right now.

Toz

Culling artifact counters starburst. Also pretty sure substitute doesn't strip deaths on clear, but I quit using it since it was expensive soul-wise.

Angwe

Though I doubt (hope) this fact has escaped anyone, everyone can use starburst. Literally anyone. Newbie to oldbie, combat vet to fresh faced low-tier. Only 100 gold at Sven's. Different from a class skill.

Toz

The trouble isn't 1 starburst. It's if you pair the instant tattoo arti with a starburst-dedicated slot, you never die in a team fight. Which is what got soul substitute nerfed, and all the other insta-rezz skills.

Arbre

I just keep imagining dying over and over with that and how much exp you'd lose.  Even for -me-, it hurts to think about.

Moirean

@Toz - yeah substitute, soulcage, etc, those don't strip defs, but starburst does, which is why I assume there isn't a CD on it. However, if people started using them nonstop in fights with the new arti, I suspect a nerf would be incoming.

Toz

Actually, it's not so bad - if they kill you 3 times, your team is probably going to win the fight, unless they have someone doing it too. And I can usually get away without dying ONCE, if I'm on the ball. Given an infinite amount of times to escape, I'll do it in significantly fewer than what I could handle xp-wise.

Draiman

I don't think people are seeing the significance of being immortal in a fight.

Angwe

Why not just put a balance on the stamp arti?

Draiman

Whoa whoa whoa.

Dude bro.

I paid money for that advantage.

Saybre

Put a balance cost on the TOUCH, rather than the inking. The whole point of the stamps was to make inking painlessely faster. So just make Starburst touch take balance like boar/moss/moon/owl/mountain do. Seems simple enough.

Azton

Angwe said:

Though I doubt (hope) this fact has escaped anyone, everyone can use starburst. Literally anyone. Newbie to oldbie, combat vet to fresh faced low-tier. Only 100 gold at Sven's. Different from a class skill.

or LEARN not to die?

But has @Saybre said "" Put a balance cost on the TOUCH, rather than the inking. The whole point of the stamps was to make inking painlessely faster. So just make Starburst touch take balance like boar/moss/moon/owl/mountain do. Seems simple enough."""  Also be nice to make it NEED balance too .... 

Angwe

That's honestly probably the best solution, on second thought. Even with a balance on the stamp artifact, you'll still be able to chain a few quick stamps.

Of course, by the same token, you'd be able to do the same with a balance on touching starburst, unless it's obscenely long.

Macavity

I honestly bought the stamps just so I do not destroy my inks during the inking process on a newb that does not understand to NOT DO ANYTHING AT ALL even reading ghelp, ohelp, chelp, or any other help files will destroy the inking process.  

My idea:  Redesign the inking process so that it does not destroy the inks or the tattoo if a simple thing like look is done.  Make it so any skill by the person is done would destroy it but not the org helps, help files, sc, look, stat or other actions that does not make sense to destroy the process.

Daskalos

Well, if you guys want it nerfed I could setup a script to turn on my basher and auto-ink. <.<

Jensen

Have 5 people do in on a raid. It'll be gone the next day

Damonicus

@Razmael and @Oleis. A great shrine or the ability to offer corpses at the pylon. The offerings will be divided up between all gods of the city's Divine advisory.  I think this would benefit all parties involved. Plus it is a nice perk for those that have not decided to follow a god yet, but still want to help offer.

Ezalor

A cooldown on starburst defense would be the best solution IMO. Once your starburst activates you cannot gain the starburst defense for 5 minutes  (for clarity, this means AFTER you die you cannot gain the defense for 5 minutes, not after you touch it). That means you can only ever starburst once in a fight, which I believe is how it was intended to function.

Even before the tattoo stamps the fact that you could starburst twice (or more if you wanted to devote more tattoo slots) in a fight was pretty bleh. Now you can do it unlimited times.

Aishia

FULL STARBURST TATTOO SET

Azton

I'm unsure if this is DOABLE but.. can we add ENDGAME skills to GMCP similar to how AB skills are.. as it will let us better keep track/code them into our system...

Arbre

Please allow something to be done to sacrificial daggers to allow you to offer corpses to them and they be tied to the pylon like you can do shrines.  I feel like I'm being punished for having an artifact.

Toz

Just put a heavy balance on starburst. I like that I don't have to wait for forever to put it back up again, but I don't like it can make you immortal in a fight if combined with an artifact. Or even a combat timer on it like some other skills have - can't use it until after 10s of no aggressive action.

Ivoln

Azton said:

I'm unsure if this is DOABLE but.. can we add ENDGAME skills to GMCP similar to how AB skills are.. as it will let us better keep track/code them into our system...

You should already be receiving this in the form of "renew", which works for all 3 races despite the name.

Azton

Ivoln said:

I'm unsure if this is DOABLE but.. can we add ENDGAME skills to GMCP similar to how AB skills are.. as it will let us better keep track/code them into our system...

You should already be receiving this in the form of "renew", which works for all 3 races despite the name.

Oooooo Happen to know what the GMCP is for it @ Ivoln

Toz

gmcp.Char.Vitals.renew

Azton

OK If @Ivoln is meaning what @Toz posted, So not what I was meaning as I meant this....

You currently possess the following racial skills:
+----------------------+----------------------+----------------------+
| 1 Point              | 2 Point              | 3 Point              |
+----------------------+----------------------+----------------------+
| Air Stability        | Chameleon            | Heatsight            |
| Alcohol Resistance   | Flight               | Scent                |
| Blood Reserves       |                      |                      |
| Dig                  |                      |                      |
+----------------------+----------------------+----------------------+


Added to GMCP Just like your normal skills show up on "gmcp.Char.Skills" (if i remember right

Ezalor

Could we have the ylemlog <city> summary become a log that simply resets every 6 IC months (say Varian and Midsummer) rather than a constantly rolling 6 month log? This would make tracking ylem and how much more you need to extract for each 6 month period much easier since cities reward based on 6 month contributions.

Basically the log would only show your contributions from Varian - Midsummer, then Midsummer - Varian, rather than always showing your last 6 IC month contributions. Of course have the ability to ylemlog <city> summary 1 1 and such.

Moirean

You'd need a way to check the past 6 months, or else people would need to be online 30 seconds before howling every week to ensure they got the proper total caught. It'd make it like quota contributions - once the numbers are final, you can't see them anymore, so it's a complete bitch to track.

Ezalor

Hence why I said ylemlog <city> summary 1 1 should be possible. Although it'd be nice if instead of the history checking each IC month, have it check each 6 IC months (so 1 1 would check the 6 month period before, 1 2 would check the period 12 months before, etc).

It'd be nice to get this option for the mist quotas too, they are definitely hard to track.