Except, the problem with that is that even heavily defensive artifacted players can't deal with the offensively artifacted ones. Other than that, you're right. Despite everyone griping about Shaman, a lot of the Shamanistic attacks either scale incredibly bad with artifacts, or they don't scale at all. I can't say that they can or can't autobash someone to death with 21 int (which is incredibly easy to get to) + level 3 magic potence. The entire point is that a Shaman with 0 offensive artifacts can kill anyone without them, because the offensive boost is completely unnecessary.
People seemed content to gripe about 'omg ranged combat dispairty.' and 'vampires are op', but when it comes to things like Luminary lightning or Templar DSK's with Scimitar masteries + serration + damage runes + hemorrhage spamming, the world goes silent.
"And finally, swear to Me: You will give your life to Dendara for you are Tiarna an-Kiar."
I'll certainly agree that Templar DSKs with Scimitar + serration + damage + hemorrage spamming is crazy damage and is probably worse or on par with Lumi lightning. It even requires less artis to do it than Luminary Lightning I believe.
Rammus' log is a maingauche outlier. Maingauche's damage should probably be severely reduced, but I'm not a huge fan of the way the skill works now in the first place at all. It's just yet another incentive to always paralyze when fighting templars.
1100 damage a swing on zeal+sacrifice seems far too high. That's over 1k dps before factoring in dodging, rebounding etc.
It's not maingauche's damage, but the weapon. The damage that maingauche puts out is entirely dependent on the weapon maingauched with, which is why rapier maingauches are nothing to write home about.
Zealing wouldn't be too much of a problem to stop for some classes, like Templars, Carnifex, Syssin, Indorani, Lycanthropes, maybe Praenomen, and Shamans. Monks could use a trip combo or a mind paralysis in the midst of it, somewhere. Bloodborn can stop it, but their method of doing it is much slower, as is a Luminary's. Then again, both of those classes are somewhat more durable. The only classes that might see a real problem with it are probably both mage classes in their current incarnation, and Cabalists.
"And finally, swear to Me: You will give your life to Dendara for you are Tiarna an-Kiar."
Paralyze only stops it if the templar doesn't cure it in time for the next stab. If it's cured inbetween ticks, the zeal continues. Same applies to trip, I think. It's not channeled.
e: clearly they can't stand if they're tripped until they get balance back
I was indeed referring to all of the above mentioned classes having some version of trip, or not having it, save for Syssin. I figured they could just disrupt since theirs is pretty fast (I think). I also left out Teradrim who have overhand.
Edit: Except for Indorani too. Hangedman should prove to be more than sufficient.
"And finally, swear to Me: You will give your life to Dendara for you are Tiarna an-Kiar."
It is fairly unrealistic to use overhand every time they zeal. I mean, if they're using zeal they should still realistically be able to use the attack to hit you once or twice, depending on your state of balance - you have to stop your offense in a lot of cases to stop an ability that can be spammed. I'm also curious now what an artied Templar doubleswing would look like.
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Jami massacres you with a vengeful swipe of a dragon-blade bastard sword.
Health Lost: 1513, cutting.
Jami gasps in pain as the shadows on your arm spring out, striking at her chest.
With a fluid motion, Jami switches her grip on a dragon-blade bastard sword and brings it swinging around once more.
Jami slams a dragon-blade bastard sword's edge into you, bracing against the impact.
Health Lost: 1513, cutting.
Not sure how artied she is. This is also without any empowerments. Her swing is probably really slow as I assume this is a max damage/no speed sword. This is the only dsw I've seen, suffice to say I don't like Templars with bastard swords very much .
It is fairly unrealistic to use overhand every time they zeal. I mean, if they're using zeal they should still realistically be able to use the attack to hit you once or twice, depending on your state of balance - you have to stop your offense in a lot of cases to stop an ability that can be spammed. I'm also curious now what an artied Templar doubleswing would look like.
If/until they do something about it, then it's going to have to become -quite- realistic.
"And finally, swear to Me: You will give your life to Dendara for you are Tiarna an-Kiar."
H:5968 M:4100 E:29400 W:21940 <csdb|eb lr> 100 0 golem recover Mana Lost: 90 You utter a word of command to your golem. A clay golem draws upon the power of Earth as it slowly recovers its wounds. Equilibrium Used: 2.50 seconds H:5968 M:4010 E:29400 W:21910 <csdb|-b lr> 100 0 You follow Moirean to the ether. Outcropping of rocks. Snowflakes float down around you, colouring the world white. The waters here have been miraculously parted. A large war turtle stands here. The shining figure of a guardian angel floats in the air here. Muscles taut and ready to spring, a massive arctic wolf prowls about. A sigil in the shape of a small, rectangular monolith is on the ground. There are 2 sinuous elds of rust here. There are 2 massive flame-covered elds here. There are 2 tarot card inscribed with nothings here. Barely seen amongst the shadows, a vibrating black eld thrums quietly here. Shedding brilliant golden light upon its surroundings, a pulsating amber eld rests here. Shelled body struggling to float, a stalwart iron eld moves clumsily here. There are 2 donkeys here. Reflecting its surroundings, a shimmering azure eld darts rapidly about. There are 2 shadow-laden grey elds here. Its massive body imposing upon the area, a spherical armored eld rests here. A spectacular array of colour skitters across the surface of a crystalline opal eld as it hovers here in suspension. A large red crab sits here. A vibrant, crackling aura of raw energy cloaking his form, Weapon Master Zion Te'Straif, The Silent Knight is here. He wields a bow of the Hunt in his hands. A vibrant, crackling aura of raw energy cloaking his form, Kaeus Quintus is here. He is riding on a donkey. He wields a gleaming scimitar in his left hand and a gleaming scimitar in his right. A vibrant, crackling aura of raw energy cloaking his form, Prideleader Kiyotan "Kite" dur Naya is here, hidden. He wields a vicious black dhurive in his hands. A vibrant, crackling aura of raw energy cloaking his form, Maelstrom's Avatar, Benedicto Silverain is here. He is surrounded by a glowing white nimbus. A vibrant, crackling aura of raw energy cloaking his form, Lord Protector, Prior Dato Deschaine, Golden Dragon is here. He wields a spiritual mace in his left hand and a buckler in his right. The area has been flooded with sand. The fury of a severe sandstorm makes itself known here. An oppressive blanket of primal energy envelops the area, crackling with tension. A great wall of iron blocks passage to the north. You see exits leading north, northeast, and east. H:5968 M:4010 E:29400 W:21910 <csdb|-b lr> 100 0 As you reach out towards Benedicto, he turns to face you, eyes glowing ominously. You gasp and recoil as two radiant arcs of white lightning dart forth from them, and scream as you feel your entire body enveloped in a terrible burning heat which seems to come from deep within you. Writhing in agony, you feel your blood and skin begin to boil before unconsciousness envelops you. The sand pervading this area blows away as the magics controlling it disperse. You have been slain by Benedicto. reform body Experience Lost: 9750 [total: 816617] A stomach slice falls out of your inventory. A lung slice falls out of your inventory. A lung slice falls out of your inventory. A lung slice falls out of your inventory. A lung slice falls out of your inventory. A bone slice falls out of your inventory. An eyeball slice falls out of your inventory. A liver slice falls out of your inventory. A liver slice falls out of your inventory. A liver slice falls out of your inventory. A liver slice falls out of your inventory. A bone slice falls out of your inventory. A liver slice falls out of your inventory. A liver slice falls out of your inventory. An eyeball slice falls out of your inventory. A bone slice falls out of your inventory. A kidney slice falls out of your inventory. A testis slice falls out of your inventory. Everything goes dark. H:0 M:4010 E:29400 W:21910 <|eb lr> 100 0 <Undeffed> sileris <Undef> deafness <Undef> blindness <Undeffed> cloak ql Your consciousness slips away into slumber, as the Earth begins to reconstruct your body. H:0 M:4010 E:29400 W:21910 <|eb lr> 100 0 You are dead and cannot do that. H:0 M:4010 E:29400 W:21910 <|eb lr> 100 0 You are dead and cannot do that. H:0 M:4010 E:29400 W:21910 <|eb lr> 100 0 You are dead and cannot do that. H:0 M:4010 E:29400 W:21910 <|eb lr> 100 0 You are dead and cannot do that.
...so that happened
only thing I can think of is that sand storm passive apparently hits deliverance, which is hilarious and retarded at the same time lol
So I happened upon a lesser today, with four people on it. Figuring you know, how could I kick four people off a lesser and take it. Carnifex, Sciomancer, or Indorani and what would be best for this. Was looking at 2 lumi, templar, and ascendril. As I was thinking of what to do, to my horror I was taught that the ascendril was actually a monk and I was pulled into this:
Clasping his hands onto your head, Daskalos injects a wave of heat through his palms and into your skull, causing your forehead to burn and your vision to swirl with
Clasping his hands onto your head, Azton injects a wave of heat through his palms and into your skull, causing your forehead to burn and your vision to swirl with
Hordes of screaming demons whirl around you, draining your resolve.
Mana Lost: 534
Clasping his hands onto your head, Daskalos injects a wave of heat through his palms and into your skull, causing your forehead to burn and your vision to swirl with
Clasping his hands onto your head, Azton injects a wave of heat through his palms and into your skull, causing your forehead to burn and your vision to swirl with
Winding up, Benedicto brutally smashes a blackened warhammer into you.
Health Lost: 997, blunt.
With a fluid motion, Benedicto switches his grip on a blackened warhammer and brings it swinging around once more.
Benedicto mutilates you with a vengeful blow from a blackened warhammer.
Health Lost: 997, blunt.
You have been slain by Benedicto.
Experience Lost: 5000 [total: 1682823]
A stack of 2 bloodroot leaves falls out of your inventory.
A stack of 2 pieces of prickly ash bark falls out of your inventory.
A stack of 2 pieces of bayberry bark falls out of your inventory.
A stack of 2 bellwort flowers falls out of your inventory.
A stack of 2 cohosh roots falls out of your inventory.
A stack of 2 echinacea roots falls out of your inventory.
A stack of 2 ginseng roots falls out of your inventory.
A goldenseal root falls out of your inventory.
A hawthorn berry falls out of your inventory.
A stack of 2 pieces of kelp falls out of your inventory.
Some irid moss falls out of your inventory.
A stack of 2 bloodroot leaves falls out of your inventory.
A stack of 2 pieces of prickly ash bark falls out of your inventory.
A stack of 2 pieces of bayberry bark falls out of your inventory.
A stack of 2 bellwort flowers falls out of your inventory.
A stack of 2 cohosh roots falls out of your inventory.
A stack of 2 echinacea roots falls out of your inventory.
A stack of 2 ginseng roots falls out of your inventory.
A stack of 2 goldenseal roots falls out of your inventory.
A stack of 2 hawthorn berries falls out of your inventory.
A stack of 2 pieces of kelp falls out of your inventory.
A stack of 2 lobelia seeds falls out of your inventory.
A stack of 2 pieces of irid moss falls out of your inventory.
A hawthorn berry falls out of your inventory.
A stack of 2 bloodroot leaves falls out of your inventory.
A stack of 2 pieces of prickly ash bark falls out of your inventory.
A stack of 2 pieces of bayberry bark falls out of your inventory.
A stack of 2 bellwort flowers falls out of your inventory.
A stack of 2 cohosh roots falls out of your inventory.
A stack of 2 echinacea roots falls out of your inventory.
A stack of 2 ginseng roots falls out of your inventory.
A stack of 2 goldenseal roots falls out of your inventory.
A stack of 2 hawthorn berries falls out of your inventory.
A stack of 2 pieces of kelp falls out of your inventory.
A stack of 2 lobelia seeds falls out of your inventory.
A stack of 2 pieces of irid moss falls out of your inventory.
A goldenseal root falls out of your inventory.
Some irid moss falls out of your inventory.
A lobelia seed falls out of your inventory.
A lobelia seed falls out of your inventory.
As the last of your life force fades, you reach out to the soul trapped within your chest. A piercing howl splits the air as you consume it into your being,
supplementing your own fading soul as you are ripped back from the brink of oblivion. Your vision clears as you rise once more, whole and intact.
Your soul_substitute defence has been stripped.
As Benedicto's attack strikes you, a blackened warhammer flares and pain fills your mind.
Clasping his hands onto your head, Azton injects a wave of heat through his palms and into your skull, causing your forehead to burn and your vision to swirl with
Yep. It's pretty ridiculous how damaging a hammer can scale with a level 3 rune on it and 19str.
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DaskalosCredit Whore ExtraordinareRolling amongst piles of credits.
My lightning doesn't look so bad now, does it?
Message #17059 Sent By: Oleis Received On: 1/03/2014/17:24 "If it makes you feel better, just checking your artifact list threatens to crash my mudlet."
I had soul embed in armor, which was reducing the damage by another 10% for your lightning attacks, should have been doing 1.3ish. Though honestly, what you're seeing more is the fact that carnifex either get good elemental resistances or decent physical. My lightning audit was 50, but my physical audit was 41.
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1100 damage a swing on zeal+sacrifice seems far too high. That's over 1k dps before factoring in dodging, rebounding etc.
e: clearly they can't stand if they're tripped until they get balance back
If/until they do something about it, then it's going to have to become -quite- realistic.
golem recover
Mana Lost: 90
You utter a word of command to your golem.
A clay golem draws upon the power of Earth as it slowly recovers its wounds.
Equilibrium Used: 2.50 seconds
H:5968 M:4010 E:29400 W:21910 <csdb|-b lr> 100 0
You follow Moirean to the ether.
Outcropping of rocks.
Snowflakes float down around you, colouring the world white. The waters here have been miraculously parted. A large war turtle stands here. The shining figure of a guardian angel floats in the air here. Muscles taut and ready to spring, a massive arctic wolf prowls about. A sigil in the shape of a small, rectangular monolith is on the ground. There are 2 sinuous elds of rust here. There are 2 massive flame-covered elds here. There are 2 tarot card inscribed with nothings here. Barely seen amongst the shadows, a vibrating black eld thrums quietly here. Shedding brilliant golden light upon its surroundings, a pulsating amber eld rests here. Shelled body struggling to float, a stalwart iron eld moves clumsily here. There are 2 donkeys here. Reflecting its surroundings, a shimmering azure eld darts rapidly about. There are 2 shadow-laden grey elds here. Its massive body imposing upon the area, a spherical armored eld rests here. A spectacular array of colour skitters across the surface of a crystalline opal eld as it hovers here in suspension. A large red crab sits here. A vibrant, crackling aura of raw energy cloaking his form, Weapon Master Zion Te'Straif, The Silent Knight is here. He wields a bow of the Hunt in his hands. A vibrant, crackling aura of raw energy cloaking his form, Kaeus Quintus is here. He is riding on a donkey. He wields a gleaming scimitar in his left hand and a gleaming scimitar in his right. A vibrant, crackling aura of raw energy cloaking his form, Prideleader Kiyotan "Kite" dur Naya is here, hidden. He wields a vicious black dhurive in his hands. A vibrant, crackling aura of raw energy cloaking his form, Maelstrom's Avatar, Benedicto Silverain is here. He is surrounded by a glowing white nimbus. A vibrant, crackling aura of raw energy cloaking his form, Lord Protector, Prior Dato Deschaine, Golden Dragon is here. He wields a spiritual mace in his left hand and a buckler in his right. The area has been flooded with sand. The fury of a severe sandstorm makes itself known here. An oppressive blanket of primal energy envelops the area, crackling with tension. A great wall of iron blocks passage to the north.
You see exits leading north, northeast, and east.
H:5968 M:4010 E:29400 W:21910 <csdb|-b lr> 100 0
As you reach out towards Benedicto, he turns to face you, eyes glowing ominously. You gasp and recoil as two radiant arcs of white lightning dart forth from them, and scream as you feel your entire body enveloped in a terrible burning heat which seems to come from deep within you. Writhing in agony, you feel your blood and skin begin to boil before unconsciousness envelops you.
The sand pervading this area blows away as the magics controlling it disperse.
You have been slain by Benedicto.
reform body
Experience Lost: 9750 [total: 816617]
A stomach slice falls out of your inventory.
A lung slice falls out of your inventory.
A lung slice falls out of your inventory.
A lung slice falls out of your inventory.
A lung slice falls out of your inventory.
A bone slice falls out of your inventory.
An eyeball slice falls out of your inventory.
A liver slice falls out of your inventory.
A liver slice falls out of your inventory.
A liver slice falls out of your inventory.
A liver slice falls out of your inventory.
A bone slice falls out of your inventory.
A liver slice falls out of your inventory.
A liver slice falls out of your inventory.
An eyeball slice falls out of your inventory.
A bone slice falls out of your inventory.
A kidney slice falls out of your inventory.
A testis slice falls out of your inventory.
Everything goes dark.
H:0 M:4010 E:29400 W:21910 <|eb lr> 100 0
<Undeffed> sileris
<Undef> deafness
<Undef> blindness
<Undeffed> cloak
ql
Your consciousness slips away into slumber, as the Earth begins to reconstruct your body.
H:0 M:4010 E:29400 W:21910 <|eb lr> 100 0
You are dead and cannot do that.
H:0 M:4010 E:29400 W:21910 <|eb lr> 100 0
You are dead and cannot do that.
H:0 M:4010 E:29400 W:21910 <|eb lr> 100 0
You are dead and cannot do that.
H:0 M:4010 E:29400 W:21910 <|eb lr> 100 0
You are dead and cannot do that.
...so that happened
only thing I can think of is that sand storm passive apparently hits deliverance, which is hilarious and retarded at the same time lol
Message #17059 Sent By: Oleis Received On: 1/03/2014/17:24
"If it makes you feel better, just checking your artifact list threatens to crash my mudlet."