Owned Part II

Lin

/me THE HAMMERS ARE PENISES.

Angwe

Kamus eases himself out of the Panda stance.
Defeated, Kamus is cast out of the Arena.
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You have been victorious and leave the Arena in triumph!
[Blackout]: Engage has been turned off
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Arena Staging Grounds.
The Staging Grounds of the Fields of Valor are very spartan in their arrangement,
 consisting of rows of simple wooden benches set around an open plain. This is
obviously not meant as a place for socializing. To the rear of the seating area
is a large, free-standing portal. Beside the portal stands a sign that reads,
"If you would like information on using the arena, read HELP ARENA." A cute
little humgii is sitting here placidly, attached to a leash. A massive golem
made of clay stands here.
You see exits leading north, south, and southwest.
The Arena is once again open for combat.
You discern that a layer of venom has rubbed off your weapon.
Balance Used: 0.43 seconds
Time to recover: 2.34 seconds.
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      <+> <+> <+> InCache: 10 rope - Total: 888 <+> <+> <+>
      <+> <+> <+> InCache: 6 wood - Total: 687 <+> <+> <+>
      <+> <+> <+> InCache: 1 kelp - Total: 404 <+> <+> <+>
      <+> <+> <+> InCache: 1 moss - Total: 215 <+> <+> <+>
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You are already not aware of your surroundings.
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[Blackout]: GAINED BALANCE PIPE
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   BAL REGAINED in 2 sec 251 ms
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You feel an aura of rebounding surround you.
[Blackout]: +DEF+ REBOUNDING
You have gained the rebounding defence.
[Blackout]: +DEF+ REBOUNDING
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You inhale deeply, allowing the air to fill your mighty lungs.
[Blackout]: +DEF+ FITNESS
You have gained the fitness defence.
[Blackout]: +DEF+ FITNESS
Balance Used: 2.58 seconds
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   BAL REGAINED in 3 sec
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"Ha!" you exclaim.
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You feel your density return to normal.
[Blackout]: -DEF- MASS
Your density defence has been stripped.
[Blackout]: -DEF- DENSITY
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[Blackout]: LOST BALANCE SALVE (mass)
Your body grows extremely dense and heavy as the mass salve infuses your skin.

[Blackout]: +DEF+ MASS
You have gained the density defence.
[Blackout]: +DEF+ DENSITY
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[Blackout]: GAINED BALANCE SALVE
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You tell Kamus, "I'm working on a strategy that would remove my absolute need
for them."
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Kamus tells you, "Screw your strategies."
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Thick strands of twinkling starlight drape Kamus as he arrives from the
southwest.
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You tell Kamus, "It would be fair to call me out on it."
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Kamus says, "I see your strategies."
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You shrug helplessly at Kamus.
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Kamus's night-shrouded eyes turn to the north as he leaves.
A grey wolf glances northward, growling.
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A grey wolf glances northward, growling.
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Thick strands of twinkling starlight drape Kamus as he arrives from the north.
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Kamus drinks the last drops from a triangle shaped bottle with traces of rum.
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Kamus drinks from a triangle shaped bottle overflowing with rum.
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Kamus drinks from a triangle shaped bottle overflowing with rum.
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You tell Kamus, "This is the arena. Where we learn how to fight."
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Kamus suddenly begins to stagger back and forth erratically, looking highly
inhebriated.
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Kamus pumps out at you with a powerful side kick.
[Blackout]: Limb torso took 7.50% damage
He connects to the torso!
Kamus unleashes a powerful hook towards you.
[Blackout]: Limb torso took 3.99% damage
He connects to the torso!
Kamus unleashes a powerful hook towards you.
[Blackout]: Limb torso took 3.99% damage
He connects to the torso!
You jerk your body to the side, lessening the blow.
H:57% M:100% E:100% W:100% Bl: 0 XP:35% [csdb eb] -2294h (blunt)
You will now attempt to parry attacks to your torso.
[Blackout]: +DEF+ PARRY (torso)
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[Blackout]: LOST BALANCE SALVE (restoration)
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SIPPED: HEALTH
[Blackout]: LOST BALANCE HEAL
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      <-> <-> <-> OutCache: 1 moss - Total Remaining: 214 <-> <-> <->
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[Blackout]: LOST BALANCE MOSS +546h +546h
You say to Kamus, "Losing is a part of learning."
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Kamus raises his finger to his lips and emits a forceful "Shhhh!"
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You have restored your torso as best as you can!
[Blackout]: Limb torso healed for 15.48% damage
[Blackout]: GAINED BALANCE SALVE
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[Blackout]: GAINED BALANCE HEAL
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SIPPED: HEALTH
[Blackout]: LOST BALANCE HEAL
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[Blackout]: GAINED BALANCE MOSS
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[Blackout]: GAINED BALANCE HEAL
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You wryly say to Kamus, "C'mon, dun act like that."
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Kamus drinks from a triangle shaped bottle overflowing with rum.
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Kamus drinks from a triangle shaped bottle overflowing with rum.
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Kamus drinks from a triangle shaped bottle overflowing with rum.
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Kamus drinks from a triangle shaped bottle overflowing with rum.
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Kamus drinks from a triangle shaped bottle overflowing with rum.
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Kamus drinks from a triangle shaped bottle overflowing with rum.
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Kamus drinks from a triangle shaped bottle overflowing with rum.
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Kamus drinks from a triangle shaped bottle overflowing with rum.
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Kamus drinks from a triangle shaped bottle full of rum.
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Kamus drinks from a triangle shaped bottle of rum.
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Kamus drinks from a triangle shaped bottle of rum.
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Kamus drinks from a triangle shaped bottle of rum.
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Kamus drinks from a triangle shaped bottle of rum.
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Kamus drinks from a triangle shaped bottle with traces of rum.
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Kamus drinks from a triangle shaped bottle with traces of rum.
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Kamus pumps out at you with a powerful side kick.
You parry the attack to your torso with a deft maneuver.
Kamus unleashes a powerful hook towards you.
You parry the attack to your torso with a deft maneuver.
Kamus unleashes a powerful hook towards you.
You parry the attack to your torso with a deft maneuver.
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You utter a deep, rumbling laugh.
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"Hmph!" Kamus snorts.
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Kamus spins into the air and throws a whirlwind kick towards you.
He misses completely and stumbles over.
Kamus eases himself out of the Panda stance.
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Kamus spasms in pain as his drunken body suffers the effects of severe alcohol
poisoning.
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Kamus eats some irid moss.
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Lurching off the floor, Kamus stumbles backwards slightly as he stands.
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Kamus vomits forth a stream of bile as his body attempts to cleanse itself.
Kamus continues vomiting up small streams of bile which quickly turn to blood. A
panicked expression crosses his face before he vomits a final time, his body
collapsing in a heap.
Himself has been slain by Kamus.
Kamus drops a bloodroot leaf.
Kamus drops a bloodroot leaf.
Kamus drops some irid moss.
Kamus drops a bloodroot leaf.
Kamus drops a bloodroot leaf.
Kamus drops a piece of kelp.
Kamus drops a piece of kelp.
Kamus drops a bloodroot leaf.
Kamus drops a bloodroot leaf.
Kamus drops some irid moss.
Kamus drops a piece of kelp.
Kamus drops some irid moss.
Kamus drops a sileris berry.
Kamus drops some irid moss.
Kamus drops a sileris berry.
Kamus drops some irid moss.
Kamus drops some irid moss.
Kamus drops a sileris berry.
Kamus drops a sileris berry.
Kamus drops some irid moss.
Kamus drops a sileris berry.
Kamus drops some irid moss.
Kamus drops a sileris berry.
Kamus drops a sileris berry.
Kamus drops a sileris berry.
Kamus drops some irid moss.
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[Blackout]: Autoimpale has been turned on
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[Blackout]: Autoimpale has been turned off
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[Info]: Time to Vote! We only need 1 votes to move to #15.
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(Dion an Duir): You say, "LOOOOOOL."

Benedicto

So owned.

Moirean

http://www.logsty.com/logs/t3pH0

(Web): Xiuhcoatl says, "Holy shit."

(Web): Xiuhcoatl says, "Justice unfed me."

(Web): Xiuhcoatl says, "What happened was I just got damage pwned by justice."

(Web): Xiuhcoatl says, "Because I was hitting more than one target."

(Web): Xiuhcoatl says, "It was bouncing AT ALL back at me."

(Web): You say, "Oh rofl."

(Web): You say, "That's pretty hilarious."

(Web): Xiuhcoatl says, "Also vibes were ticking it too."

(Web): Xiuhcoatl says, "So I literally just got my shit pushed in."

(Web): Xiuhcoatl says, "1000 mana loss+600 health every stormhammer."

Sorry, but the bad luck of that kinda cracked me up. >_>

Mastema

H:3155(67%) M:5225(100%) W:99% E:105% [csdb eb]

Locking its jaws onto you, the crocodile pulls you deep into the mud to submerge you.
You struggle to free yourself from the mire.
[Carnifex]: AFF WRITHEWEB
[Carnifex]: AFF AEON
You have been slain by Axel, an enormous crocodile.

 Then to top it of I get stuck in the death sequence for 8 mins.... all my nice xp gone. But at least Iosyne saved me after an issue.

wow!!

Ezalor

Benedicto crushes you beneath a mighty overhead blow from a blackened warhammer.

Health Lost: 1622, blunt.

With a fluid motion, Benedicto switches his grip on a blackened warhammer and brings it swinging around once more.

Benedicto steps in, gruesomely smashing you up with a blackened warhammer.

Health Lost: 1622, blunt.

Energy pulses into you from a blackened warhammer, stunning you.

You are afflicted with stun.

lol why does this exist and why can people win fights just pushing 1 button.

Daskalos

Says the man who just teamed up with Conner at a leyline and used the exact same tactic except ranged, with arrows.

Kaeus

Daskalos said:

Says the man who just teamed up with Conner at a leyline and used the exact same tactic except ranged, with arrows.

Still doesn't make it ok! /delete autobashing!

Daskalos

Oh, I'm not saying it's ok. I'm just saying complaining about it when you yourself lead a team that used the tactic less than 5 minutes prior is amusing.

Kaeus

Daskalos said:

Oh, I'm not saying it's ok. I'm just saying complaining about it when you yourself lead a team that used the tactic less than 5 minutes prior is amusing.

I can guarantee it is all Conner's doing on his own. I doubt Ezalor goes, "Hey Conner, go use your completely broken artibow to just bash people from out of room with no risk to yourself."

Ezalor

I'm not Conner, and I'm probably the most vehement against artibash. And lol, are you really bringing that up when you won a Duel doing artibash? Conner's hardly the first person to use a L3 bow with 21 dex as well, as you should well know.

Haven

Let's move on from the subject. More splat.

Angwe

http://www.logsty.com/logs/mTeyI

Yes. That's a no-prep garrotlock.

Alexina

Angwe said:

http://www.logsty.com/logs/mTeyI

Yes. That's a no-prep garrotlock.

Hah! That was funny. ^_^

There's about a gazillion ways to avoid dying to that trick, if you can't figure them out on your own I'll be more than happy to show you.

Daskalos

Eh, being able to keep someone off balance forever with hypno is something that needs to be looked at. When people could force dom users to ORDER ENTOURAGE DANCE and get easy instakills, it was deemed OP and changed. This little trick should fall under the same rules.

Angwe

Ah, nvm.

Ilyon

You can't kick while prone. Looks like you can punch, though.

You sit yourself down.
H:6109 M:6050 B:100% [cspdb eb
You can not kick someone while prone.
H:6109 M:6050 B:100% [cspdb eb]
You thrust your arm out in a quick jab at Ezalor.
You connect!
Balance Used: 3.01 seconds

Corlin

Wow, that was terrible to read.

Just knowing that something like that exists and that someone would actually use it makes me want to never leave a guard knot again.

Ezalor

Corlin said:

Wow, that was terrible to read.

Just knowing that something like that exists and that someone would actually use it makes me want to never leave a guard knot again.

The whole purpose is actually to bypass guards! The person abducts you while you are in a city, taking you into phase with them where the guards won't help you.

Hypnosis ticks every 4 seconds I believe, so you actually have plenty of time to throw out attacks and paralyze the Syssin, or wield eye and throw it to unphase both yourself and the Syssin (if you were in a city, the guards would then kill them). You'll have to do it within the seal timer if you aren't Dexterous though, since kick will take up 4s of balance after that if you weren't already off bal/eq. In Angwe's log one of the kick commands went through while he was proned, which should have screwed the entire chain up by standing/slash paralysis, but he stayed prone for about 3 seconds before standing.

EDIT: Hrm, I'm actually not entirely certain how seal works or what the minimum time on it is or if it can be instant. If it can be instant then that's trouble, since you can then keep someone non-Dex kicking forever.

Ok! Been informed seal is a 1 sec minimum rather than 4 as I thought, so this definitely needs to be looked at, since a 1s window is too short when they can then kick lock you forever if you are on neutral balance.

Seir

Agree. Reading Ezalor's post without even reading the log allows me to know that Secrets was spammed via hypnosis which is indeed lame. I specifically learned endgame skill Secrets so that my time thrown off by Secrets would be two seconds instead of four SPECIFICALLY to avoid that trick or from stupidity royally screwing me over by it.

Your best defense against an abducting Syssin is always eye sigils. Often, just wielding one is enough to make them flee.

Daskalos

Except it was kick used, not secrets.

Seir

Oh, even worse. I never even thought about using newbie kick.

Illikaal

It must be really hard being that intelligent. 

Alexina

It's somewhat of a cheap trick since it removes shield and puts you off balance, but it's by no means a guaranteed kill. I guess it should be looked into, but I've tried this a fair bit and people who are were prepared for it never ever died to it.

Suggestion:
Change action so it works more like disrupt in hypnosis. Like, you don't actually hypnotise it, rather just use it as an ability kind of like devotion force. Unless Aetolia implements some sort of theft conflict mechanism, in which case I want Syssin to keep action as it is now.

Tza

I am curious. How do you counter this trick? It's been said it's 'easy' but no one has said how so far.

This is @Alexina, but also everyone else who has an idea. There were no timestamps on Angwe's log so I don't know how much of a window of opportunity he had, but if hypno ticks every 4s and kick is 3.4s it's not much (especially if you're on my kind of latency).

Alexina

I sealed for four seconds. Angwe had time to shield. The second tick of kick missed because he was off eq. He'd have plenty of time to attack me after recovering balance to attack me. If I'd sealed at 1 second, the kick would have come much faster, but I'd still be off balance from abducting which would mess up my timing, etc. I'm sure better combatants could abuse this way more than me. Dexterous statpacks also messes up the balance recovery time. I've never actually been able to keep someone permanently off balance with this. Anyway:

Anyway:
1. Walk out of the room when snapped.
2. Attack when snapped.
3. Wield eye sigil, throw eye sigil at ground when snapped.
4. Queue attack or tumble if garrotelock begins.

DON'T:
1. Stand still.
2. Do nothing.
3. Duanathar/voltda after garrotelock begins.

I've tried this bunch of times on Aren/Daskalos/Isto, and they kill me every time.

Seir

Remember that Luminaries don't have to unwield/wield eye (which requires balance) and then throw eye. They can just perform truth and flush you out. All three of those folks are Luminaries so they have an easy time with Syssin trying to abduct and kill them.

Daskalos

I can't be abducted...

Angwe

I didn't actually have a window at all, though that may just be latency.

Moirean

In your log, there were two ticks of garrotelock where you had balance and didn't do anything. There was a window, in the log at least.