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Re: Mildly Irritating: Aetolia's Pet Peeves
Death RP is a big pet peeve for me in a few ways. Dying means losing, which is frustrating and it influences certain people to have a sort of one-sided style of RP. It's usually a lot of acting without fear when dealing with players and existential dread at permadeath during an event or private setting RP. You may have noticed Escelika's not in the business of starting fights - she doesn't make bets without worthwhile payoffs.
I wanted to comment on the death RP people should be considering. Sure, you might never come back. This choice might be your last and you'll move on to the underhalls for good. Those ten drinks you rapid fired down your throat seemed like a funny thing - shame it was your last!
BUT, I think you should be more afraid that you do come back.
You come back, under mysterious circumstances, in brand new, fully realized bodies. Your old body is still around. Are you sure you're you? Are our memories stored in our spirit and not our brain? If some power were to fix the corpse's wounds, restore it to life, would it remember?
Is that what Undead are? Do they have a spirit, just out of sight, watching their animated body go on while they are imprisoned by another Divine's will? Has the spirit moved on and one cured of undead given a new spirit? The Praenomen spirit is trapped within the blood, held imprisoned by the curse, freed through a convoluted ritual and heat of a volcano.
I got a little carried away and may to make a new thread on this - I think we could go on for a while. The clear divide between courage and bravery is the biggest pet peeve for me overall when it comes to conflict.
I wanted to comment on the death RP people should be considering. Sure, you might never come back. This choice might be your last and you'll move on to the underhalls for good. Those ten drinks you rapid fired down your throat seemed like a funny thing - shame it was your last!
BUT, I think you should be more afraid that you do come back.
You come back, under mysterious circumstances, in brand new, fully realized bodies. Your old body is still around. Are you sure you're you? Are our memories stored in our spirit and not our brain? If some power were to fix the corpse's wounds, restore it to life, would it remember?
Is that what Undead are? Do they have a spirit, just out of sight, watching their animated body go on while they are imprisoned by another Divine's will? Has the spirit moved on and one cured of undead given a new spirit? The Praenomen spirit is trapped within the blood, held imprisoned by the curse, freed through a convoluted ritual and heat of a volcano.
I got a little carried away and may to make a new thread on this - I think we could go on for a while. The clear divide between courage and bravery is the biggest pet peeve for me overall when it comes to conflict.
Escelika
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Re: Announce post #3240: The Earthcaller Class!
Shamelessly stealing @Alela 's reference. But if this isn't an Earthcaller, I don't know what is. I love all the stuff about it, not getting the class but appreciating it all the same.
Xenia
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Re: Announce post #3240: The Earthcaller Class!
This class looks so goddamn metal, holy shit.
Iesid
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Announce post #3240: The Earthcaller Class!
10/23/2021 at 0:13
Ictinus, the Architect
Everyone
The Earthcaller Class!
After passing the trials of the Earthen and helping to restore the imbalance of Earth on the Prime Material, the Earthcaller class is now available within the Teradrim Guild!
With the skills of Apocalyptia, Subjugation, and Tectonics, this class expertly combines priestly invocations with raw, ruthless strength.
The solemn duty of the Earthcaller makes it a perfect fit for the Teradrim, as both classes are charged with maintaining the Pillars of the Earth.
Earthcaller is a mirror of the Luminary class, and the skills translate as follows:
Apocalyptia - Devotion
Subjugation - Spirituality
Tectonics - Illumination
HELP EARTHCALLER RP awaits those with an interest in learning about the background, and help files for each of the three skills exist for your perusal. The skills also have learning messages which may be of interest!
While some abilities are directly shared, most should be unrecognisable. We've made a concerted effort to steep this class in its own lore, theme, and flavour in order to make it a compelling and distinct experience from its native profession.
Any guilded Teradrim is able to CLASS SELECT EARTHCALLER if they meet the requirements for multiclass, and Earthcaller will soon be available in new character creation. For the next two weeks, guilded Teradrim will have no limit on total apprentices per season.
Artifacts for Earthcaller will be available in the next few minutes for your enjoyment:
- a cracked amphora (hunt_earthcaller1-3); for hunting
- a tablet of the Earthen (fervour_boon); mirror of devotion_boon
- an Amulet of Khuzrol (fervour_regen); mirror of devotion_regen
- a fragmented hunk of ink-spattered rock (anointrunes); mirror of shieldstamp
- an anchor of the dunes (impurity_banish); mirror of spark_meditate
- earthen_purity (no item); mirror of spark_boon
While we have done a significant amount of testing on every ability, if there are bugs or typos, or if anything appears to be behaving strangely, please report it right away through BUG or TYPO respectively.
I'd like to give a big shout out to Razmael and Keroc, as well as our amazing volunteers for their incredible help in getting this class out. The last few weeks have been utterly insane, and I hope you all enjoy!
The release event for mirror Indorani is already underway and will be finishing up tomorrow or Sunday. Look out for the post!
Penned by my hand on Kinsday, the 5th of Midsummer, in the year 498 MA.
Ictinus, the Architect
Everyone
The Earthcaller Class!
After passing the trials of the Earthen and helping to restore the imbalance of Earth on the Prime Material, the Earthcaller class is now available within the Teradrim Guild!
With the skills of Apocalyptia, Subjugation, and Tectonics, this class expertly combines priestly invocations with raw, ruthless strength.
The solemn duty of the Earthcaller makes it a perfect fit for the Teradrim, as both classes are charged with maintaining the Pillars of the Earth.
Earthcaller is a mirror of the Luminary class, and the skills translate as follows:
Apocalyptia - Devotion
Subjugation - Spirituality
Tectonics - Illumination
HELP EARTHCALLER RP awaits those with an interest in learning about the background, and help files for each of the three skills exist for your perusal. The skills also have learning messages which may be of interest!
While some abilities are directly shared, most should be unrecognisable. We've made a concerted effort to steep this class in its own lore, theme, and flavour in order to make it a compelling and distinct experience from its native profession.
Any guilded Teradrim is able to CLASS SELECT EARTHCALLER if they meet the requirements for multiclass, and Earthcaller will soon be available in new character creation. For the next two weeks, guilded Teradrim will have no limit on total apprentices per season.
Artifacts for Earthcaller will be available in the next few minutes for your enjoyment:
- a cracked amphora (hunt_earthcaller1-3); for hunting
- a tablet of the Earthen (fervour_boon); mirror of devotion_boon
- an Amulet of Khuzrol (fervour_regen); mirror of devotion_regen
- a fragmented hunk of ink-spattered rock (anointrunes); mirror of shieldstamp
- an anchor of the dunes (impurity_banish); mirror of spark_meditate
- earthen_purity (no item); mirror of spark_boon
While we have done a significant amount of testing on every ability, if there are bugs or typos, or if anything appears to be behaving strangely, please report it right away through BUG or TYPO respectively.
I'd like to give a big shout out to Razmael and Keroc, as well as our amazing volunteers for their incredible help in getting this class out. The last few weeks have been utterly insane, and I hope you all enjoy!
The release event for mirror Indorani is already underway and will be finishing up tomorrow or Sunday. Look out for the post!
Penned by my hand on Kinsday, the 5th of Midsummer, in the year 498 MA.
Autoposter
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Re: Mildly Irritating: Aetolia's Pet Peeves
The reason we keep coming back is cause we're actually Albedi creations and Varian and his creations can't kill Albedi creations that's why he didn't kill jox thanks for coming to my ted talk
Bulrok
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Re: Griefing and bullying. It's not okay OOC but it is okay IC? (Wall of text warning)
My responses here might be juvenile. I'm fine with that. I had just woken up, and after this doozy of a thread, this was not something anyone should have to read.
We play characters on the mean, evil, bad guy side of the game. We are allies, it does not make us friends IC - both require RP and effort by both parties. It does not mean that you won't be bitten by someone on your own side of the game, especially in matters that the character considers important to themselves or their orgs.
It's important for me to point out that I initially specifically crafted a character that was quiet, reasonable, and more likely to handle things privately in order to find a resolution, but BL and its orgs forced that character to become louder, more outspoken, and to drag other characters kicking and screaming into the sunlight just to reach a conclusion, because so much of BL wants to run and hide when they're confronted. It is a natural progression of RP spurred by the characters and situations around my own.
The above DM makes it sound as if the way my character reacts on CT during IC stressful situations is the only way I play my character, but I know the person who DMed me has never actually RPed with my character to learn how reasonable they can be or why they might get bent out of shape by something like the Pillars weakening. Furthermore, this is not something I, or rather my character, do commonly. Anyone who actually pays attention to CT, who actually knows my character, knows better. It's frankly upsetting to have someone pretend they understand/know your character while not having any context and only being upset that you would challenge another character or org.
As I've already said, we're allies, it doesn't mean we're friends, and if my character feels like you're neglecting your responsibilities or failing BL, he's going to be very clear about that - it's the character others have made him. BL has a severe issue where character who cannot handle the heat still decide to bring it, get rightfully targeted for it, and then instead of admitting their mistake, run, hide, and spread rumours both IC and OOC about characters and players. The IC aspect I can understand and, while frustrating, even respect. Hiding doesn't absolve you of consequences, however. Refusing to engage after the fact does not absolve you of consequences. When you put your character's energy out there, expect it to be met. When you are a prominent character or org who fails to put your energy out there, expect it to be met. Not being online doesn't make RP stop. A lot happens while I'm offline, because I do not play this game for escapism or 24/7 like so many players tend to do, and I often have to come in after the fact in RP.
The OOC aspect of this behaviour, though, is the very same that spurred this thread in the first place and continually makes me question playing this game.
Let me be crystal clear: YOU DO NOT GET TO DECIDE MY RP AS LONG AS I'M NOT BREAKING RULES. YOU GET TO REACT TO IT.
If you cannot be bothered to RP with me to learn why my character might feel this way, ignore is right there. If it stresses you out, ignore is right there.
I'm supremely and deeply uncomfortable and hurt between this post and this DM and will no longer be entertaining people who want to discuss my RP OOC. If you think I'm breaking the rules or being a bully, issue me. Full stop.
Edit: And, frankly, criticizing my RP and implying things of me OOC without giving even a critical thought to others in the equation is disgusting. I'm exhausted by it. I am being gaslit, repeatedly, by players in this game exactly in the vein of this DM and I am really just... I don't know what to do at this point.
We play characters on the mean, evil, bad guy side of the game. We are allies, it does not make us friends IC - both require RP and effort by both parties. It does not mean that you won't be bitten by someone on your own side of the game, especially in matters that the character considers important to themselves or their orgs.
It's important for me to point out that I initially specifically crafted a character that was quiet, reasonable, and more likely to handle things privately in order to find a resolution, but BL and its orgs forced that character to become louder, more outspoken, and to drag other characters kicking and screaming into the sunlight just to reach a conclusion, because so much of BL wants to run and hide when they're confronted. It is a natural progression of RP spurred by the characters and situations around my own.
The above DM makes it sound as if the way my character reacts on CT during IC stressful situations is the only way I play my character, but I know the person who DMed me has never actually RPed with my character to learn how reasonable they can be or why they might get bent out of shape by something like the Pillars weakening. Furthermore, this is not something I, or rather my character, do commonly. Anyone who actually pays attention to CT, who actually knows my character, knows better. It's frankly upsetting to have someone pretend they understand/know your character while not having any context and only being upset that you would challenge another character or org.
As I've already said, we're allies, it doesn't mean we're friends, and if my character feels like you're neglecting your responsibilities or failing BL, he's going to be very clear about that - it's the character others have made him. BL has a severe issue where character who cannot handle the heat still decide to bring it, get rightfully targeted for it, and then instead of admitting their mistake, run, hide, and spread rumours both IC and OOC about characters and players. The IC aspect I can understand and, while frustrating, even respect. Hiding doesn't absolve you of consequences, however. Refusing to engage after the fact does not absolve you of consequences. When you put your character's energy out there, expect it to be met. When you are a prominent character or org who fails to put your energy out there, expect it to be met. Not being online doesn't make RP stop. A lot happens while I'm offline, because I do not play this game for escapism or 24/7 like so many players tend to do, and I often have to come in after the fact in RP.
The OOC aspect of this behaviour, though, is the very same that spurred this thread in the first place and continually makes me question playing this game.
Let me be crystal clear: YOU DO NOT GET TO DECIDE MY RP AS LONG AS I'M NOT BREAKING RULES. YOU GET TO REACT TO IT.
If you cannot be bothered to RP with me to learn why my character might feel this way, ignore is right there. If it stresses you out, ignore is right there.
I'm supremely and deeply uncomfortable and hurt between this post and this DM and will no longer be entertaining people who want to discuss my RP OOC. If you think I'm breaking the rules or being a bully, issue me. Full stop.
Edit: And, frankly, criticizing my RP and implying things of me OOC without giving even a critical thought to others in the equation is disgusting. I'm exhausted by it. I am being gaslit, repeatedly, by players in this game exactly in the vein of this DM and I am really just... I don't know what to do at this point.
Iazamat
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Re: Griefing and bullying. It's not okay OOC but it is okay IC? (Wall of text warning)
If you are uncomfortable posting it in public, then you do not make the allegations in public. Bring it to the admin, and let the Carnifex have the right to respond to it.
The notion that you can make a baseless allegation in public that is both hurtful and damaging to a person/organisation, and hide behind 'being afraid' or 'being hurt' to avoid accountability for the accusation is, in my opinion, a disgusting one.
So is the comparison to sexual assault.
The notion that you can make a baseless allegation in public that is both hurtful and damaging to a person/organisation, and hide behind 'being afraid' or 'being hurt' to avoid accountability for the accusation is, in my opinion, a disgusting one.
So is the comparison to sexual assault.
Lim
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Re: Griefing and bullying. It's not okay OOC but it is okay IC? (Wall of text warning)
When discussing things like victim blaming and the harm of erasing the experiences of victims because there isn't immediate evidence, it's about stakes that are tremendously higher than any of the things being discussed here. Assault, domestic abuse, sexual assault, stalking, etc etc. The reason victim blaming and "no proof no believe" is commonly criticized in these circumstances is because the stakes for ignoring someone are SO high. People die. People get traumatized for life.
Also, uh, I don't think Rebra, anywhere, said this was being compared to sexual assault. Like, she didn't even use the word 'sexual'. She just said trauma, abuse, harassed; which, yes, COULD have sexual assault under that umbrella but that's not at all what I inferred from her statement.
It is inappropriate to try and make a connection between that sort of circumstance where believing accusers is obviously of paramount importance because the consequences of not believing them are so high and the kind of things that are being said in this thread. People are correct to point that out. I can believe that that was not Rebra's intention, but it was the implication and the result of that line of reasoning (especially considering the added context of it being relevant in the healthcare profession), and it's not appropriate.
Tetchta
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Re: Griefing and bullying. It's not okay OOC but it is okay IC? (Wall of text warning)
I think comparing, even subtly, someone upset over IC actions prompting an IC reply to sexual assault survivors or other abuse survivors is gross and wholly unpleasant, to be honest. I'm also clicking the 'disagree' button despite what feels like another attempt at drawing an emotional reaction with the whole 'I expect to be attacked for my post but hopefully not' bit, because I genuinely disagree with a lot of what was written.
Since I've been back, everyone and everything has been roasted in shadow web, as well. The banter might not be for everyone, absolutely, but in my experience no org is really 'safe'. The Carnifex eat crayons, kick puppies, Mjoll is too stupid to lose fights. Mazzion is an old man living his best life. Bul and I are too angry to die or on the verge of a heart attack. It's definitely not all in good fun, some of it can get mean spirited, sure. Sometimes they are laughing at you, not with you, and it's totally okay to remove yourself from the semi-school yard environment when someone is tilting.
ICly your character, not you, exists in a world with dangerous, cruel, selfish people. I'm going to let Fyrren have the last word on my post, though, to cover that: https://forums.aetolia.com/discussion/comment/109259/#Comment_109259
Since I've been back, everyone and everything has been roasted in shadow web, as well. The banter might not be for everyone, absolutely, but in my experience no org is really 'safe'. The Carnifex eat crayons, kick puppies, Mjoll is too stupid to lose fights. Mazzion is an old man living his best life. Bul and I are too angry to die or on the verge of a heart attack. It's definitely not all in good fun, some of it can get mean spirited, sure. Sometimes they are laughing at you, not with you, and it's totally okay to remove yourself from the semi-school yard environment when someone is tilting.
ICly your character, not you, exists in a world with dangerous, cruel, selfish people. I'm going to let Fyrren have the last word on my post, though, to cover that: https://forums.aetolia.com/discussion/comment/109259/#Comment_109259
Toz
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Re: Griefing and bullying. It's not okay OOC but it is okay IC? (Wall of text warning)
I was going to respond to this with the receipts of everything the Dominion and Teradrim did to the Carnifex when they were large and in charge that have caused the Carnifex players to choose this avenue of roleplay, but that wouldn't be productive or helpful and ultimately would only serve to make only me feel better.
My DM's are always open Trance#3833 if you think you're being unfairly targeted or bullied or griefed by me or mine. I will hear your side and provide perspective.
This is explicit permission for those of you I have ignored in game to DM me. Don't be surprised if I block you if you bring the same energy that caused the ignore.
Not a single one of you has ever come to me or the admin(to my knowledge) about griefing of bullying, which are both against the rules, and something I would be happy to deal with.
A public hit piece like this is wildly inappropriate and does nothing but engender bad feelings for all parties involved and those folk just looking in with a bucket of popcorn.
Do better.
My DM's are always open Trance#3833 if you think you're being unfairly targeted or bullied or griefed by me or mine. I will hear your side and provide perspective.
This is explicit permission for those of you I have ignored in game to DM me. Don't be surprised if I block you if you bring the same energy that caused the ignore.
Not a single one of you has ever come to me or the admin(to my knowledge) about griefing of bullying, which are both against the rules, and something I would be happy to deal with.
A public hit piece like this is wildly inappropriate and does nothing but engender bad feelings for all parties involved and those folk just looking in with a bucket of popcorn.
Do better.
Mjoll
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