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Re: Announce post #3123: Experimental Changes

I think these changes are fine, but I'm looking at the big picture.

Fast movement speed devalues:
Travel skills
Travel artifacts
Setup time and clever ganking

The actual power of getting a pick during a lesser

I think the celerity changes are fine and y'all are just overreacting. This actually opens up ways to differentiate kits and maybe travel skills will be more highly valued in those kits.

I would actually say that the way to find a middle ground here is not to reverse the brave experiment, but to:

Add a racial skill for recovery.
Add recovery augmetic bonus.
Add recovery skills to several classes.
Revise celerity artifacts and offer full refunds.

Having absurd movement speed has a trickle down effect on other player behaviors and systems. Please ask yourself what you are "losing" via these changes and then look at it from another perspective: was what we all had in the first place even fair or healthy?

Big fan of the celerity changes. Think recovery needs some tweaking. Think maybe we should have done it as its own thing and the shock affliction needs to be widespread. We prob could have handled the combat side of this from just adding shock as an aff that prevents celerity recovery anyways.

The hiding changes are dumb though. Dislike them, they seem pointless. The only hiding skill that even matters is phase and it remains untouched (as it should be.)

Iesid

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Re: Announce post #3123: Experimental Changes

Wow interjecting here to toss out some perspective.

It took like 6 months to get Tiur to respond to an email that had a list of concerns from Shadow side players. Concerns that topped this minor inconvenience and actually (not threateningly?) had people quit the game. (And he lied about shit anyways)

It hasn't been 24 hours and some of you are losing your shit.

I'm not downplaying what's going on here, but I'm not missing this golden opportunity to give you guys some perspective about why some of us are so salty about, well, anything.

Bulrok

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Re: Announce post #3123: Experimental Changes

Not a complete non-com, so are you saying I'd likely have to make changes to my system if I want to fight?

I think the elixir change is acceptable, even if not ideal. Sometimes there will be changes to how curing/affs/skills work that require some changes to systems. It's not reasonable to expect the game to evolve and become more balanced/interesting over time unless some bigger changes like this are made. This is especially true since firstaid handles most of it already and in most cases you won't even notice a difference. Unless you're looking to get into top tier pvp you probably don't even have to change anything.

Czcienn

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Re: Announce post #3123: Experimental Changes

dont like it

Rijetta

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Re: Small Ideas - AIN'T NO COMBAT THREAD

Also, potential little goldsink:

A merchant in Esterport that you can pay to remove the "It bears the distinctive mark of X" line from items you've made, for those of us trying to do some clandestine missions. Could either replace it with a generic "You cannot discern the item's creator" line, or copy the Syssin forge skill functionality to make it look like somebody else made it.

Koda

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Announce post #3123: Experimental Changes

7/25/2020 at 5:23
Keroc, the Starborn
Everyone
Experimental Changes

I had planned to do this later on, but since it now involves the Pit report (2887 for reference) we'll be exploring some big changes early on!

Elixirs
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- Healing elixirs and defensive elixirs now share the same balance.
* This means you can't drink a health elixir and levitation elixir at the same time anymore.
- Health and mana elixirs will knock your elixir balance for 4.75 seconds.
* Same duration as before.
- Levitation, immunity, frost, antivenin, and vigour elixirs will knock your elixir balance for 1.4 seconds.
* Slightly less then before, used to be 1.5.
- Speed elixir continues to remain free of needing elixir balance for now.

Domination
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- The Pit now strips levitation every 4 seconds, up from 3.
- The Pit can now only be ensorcelled by the person who cast it.
- The Pit no longer bypasses levitation if the target is fallen.

Firstaid
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- Firstaid will use defensive elixirs over healing elixirs.
* I haven't really found a situation just yet where waiting is worth while with existing mechanics and the balance being short, but feel free to let me know if it becomes a problem.

There are some further changes that come along with this that are experimental, as this was something I was working alongside the above ones. I may further adjust, expand, or revert these ones, so keep that in mind. I didn't want to change too much early on.

Celerity & Recovery
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There is now a new mechanic called Recovery to go alongside Celerity.

Under the old system, every second you would recover all your celerity points. With recovery, you now only recover as much celerity as you have recovery. So if you have a recovery of 2, you will regain 2 celerity points each second. Everyone has a default of 2 recovery to start with.

Gaining extra recovery will often only come in the form of a temporary boon or situational position. As such, don't expect to gain a defence that gives recovery at no cost to yourself. It will perhaps require an endurance upkeep or for you to be within a certain environment.

AUDIT will show you your total recovery along with your celerity.

Changes to go alongside this:
- New Affliction: Shock.
* This affliction will block recovery from occuring.
* You will be able to move until your celerity points are spent, at which point normal movement will become unavailable.
* Cured only through time, restores 1 celerity upon being cured.
- Trotting from Horsemanship now bestows +1 recovery instead of celerity as long as you are mounted.
- Stalking from Corpus (and the racial) now bestows +1 recovery during the night.
* No longer hides your player from view however.
- Celerity from Corpus now bestows +1 celerity instead of its old effect of speeding up the recovery tick.

Hiding abilities
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Hiding abilities are making a small comeback in usefulness.

With Heatsight being wildly available, many abilities that hide you from view are quickly countered at zero cost. We would like to see them have some usefulness within the realm, so some changes have been made to strike a balance so that they are usable without being frustrating in day-to-day events.

Changes to go alongside this:
- Heatsight is now a single use command that will show the room, letting you see hidden players only for that moment.
- The hiding defence is now stripped when you move, unless you are shadowing someone.
- Shroud no longer hides the player from view in the room, it continues to hide actions and movement however.
- Spiritsight for Deathlore now lets you see those who are currently dead within the realms.
- Shadowsight for Subterfuge now lets you see through illusions 50% of the time.
- Lifevision remains how it is for now, however it has lost the ability to see through illusions.

Penned by my hand on Closday, the 2nd of Khepary, in the year 489 MA.

Autoposter

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Re: What would you like to see in GMCP?

They're already filtered out!! I don't want to have to put in code to filter what's already been filtered!!

And it would be a nightmare because if I'm in a room with dozens of people, I'm going to see everyone nodding their head or whatnot. I don't want to see that. I'd rather it just stick with emotes/thoughts. Premotes have no real value other than a quick reaction.