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If lure fails to move you for any reason, its writhe affliction is removed.
Again, missed my point. Glad I called the red herring.
Um... you missed her point too. Her point was to replace icewall if its removed, double-block if you can, and focus on other abilities to prevent yourself from being lured -RATHER- than writhing and putting yourself on balance. Why is he writhing each time if he hasn't recovered from the first one?
Edit: I'm blind.
I must pause my system to sit. Hence the mention of it in response to your suggestion that I sit down when I start getting lusted. The only other solution you offered, save relying on my team (remember, we've established that they are infinitely fallible in a situation with no room for human error) is keeping myself off balance, which would defeat the purpose of not writhing in the first place. So, what is your point?
Beckon is a straight movement attempt. You know if it has failed, you know if it hasn't because it's immediate. You don't get that you can't afford to miss a beat when lure starts because it's the difference between getting lured one room or three.
Nearly every individual that has come from shadow to spirit has acknowledged this disparity with Kaeus chief among them even openly saying how ridiculous it is. You had Xavin, who used to fight me for ages about Lure and all the other abilities that shadow has finally come to acknowledge when he played on the other side for a change. I'm sick and tired of arguing this with people when they offer nothing in rebuttal save how spirit "is defensively oriented", or "you're not using your kit to the best of your ability" and how we're expected to play perfectly in order to beat the mechanics that are arrayed against us. We're not stupid and we understand our kits better than you probably do since, you know, we use them and test with them on a regular basis. I understand that you lot want to defend the abilities that some of you paid money for and invested in, but you really need to put your bias aside and acknowledge that a disparity has existed for ages and has favored your side considerably in the process.
Edit: This is me responding to strawman, so I'm going back to the original subject: the amount of ranged.
Suffice to say, there has not been one argument of substance so far that validates why Shadow has the mechanics they have while Spirit is forced to endure it with little to no reasonable response. There's nothing equivalent to lure, doppleganger, hound, hangedman, you have the guild that controls archery in your tether, two forms of mind strip, you out-DPS us with Carnifex and Vampires when Sentinels were considered "too powerful" because of their damage/affliction potential yet Carnifex can reach a threshold faster than Quickfoot and Vampires aren't even subjected to shield like every other affliction class. It's dumb, it's stupid, and it's discouraging because I see liaisons arguing this constant red herring crap in order to deflect away from the actual issue.
Counterpoints require numbers and facts (like the ones I listed at the beginning of this thread), not throwing out snark in the hope of getting a rise out of folks and detract from the argument. No one has presented anything that would be reasonable or viewed as compromise. They're too concerned with maintaining a disparity that exists in their favor. One that I know for a fact that you've even acknowledged while on Kog before you played Toz.
Not to mention, I don't really expect anyone to take me seriously for the sole fact of "SEIR IS TRYING TO SAY WE'RE TOO STRONG. CLEARLY DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT!" despite having nearly every reputable fighter that has gone from shadow to spirit come to acknowledge my points once they've been subjected to it and see how different it is between spirit and shadow as far as the mechanics available to both sides.