Short COMBAT Questions

Moirean

I'm going to say it is not a bug but that's because fool is a fairly neglected cure. It is basically a tarot fling with a cure on it which means everything that affects other flings - strip shield and rebound, subject to paralysis, maybe subject to dodge (dunno about this as I haven't played indo much since that change went in) - affects it. Imo fool, priestess and magician could use rewrites as they are distinctly different from offensive tarot skills.

Draiman

I saw a changelog looking for Fool changes that said it was no longer considered an aggressive action. I might of missed it but I didn't see anything saying it had been reverted back, so I bugged it because it's stripping rebounding when I use it on myself. Not sure about priestess and magician.

Lim

The argument that Indorani aff rate justifies it's poorer curing capabilities is dated, since the adder dodge change has muted the Indorani aff rate. 

There might be room to say that Indorani has strong hinder, which is a significant leg up as compared to some other classes, say, Templar. It has active and passive lethargy, confusion, epilepsy, clumsiness. 

Aside from being blocked by paralysis, a significant point to note that although Fool's timer was reduced from one every 45s to once every 25, this is still slower than all active cures. 

Personally though, I think the issue with the class lies less with its curing and more with its aff rate. It has become a 'slow and steady' aff class that depends on the target's hubris, inexperience, or weak curing to kill. There is a huge indulgence in the margin of error that means one shouldn't really die to an Indorani. 

Draiman

I'm doing my absolute best to stay calm here, but I'm having a lot of difficulty whenever I look back at this log.

H:1775 M:4274 E:24737 W:20563 B:95% Night [csdb --] Soul: 100

Corvo pumps out at you with a powerful side kick.
(System) You have torsodamaged
(System) You have 2 afflictions.
Your torso breaks from all the damage.
Your torso has taken 7.49% damage.
He connects to the torso!
Health Lost: 980, blunt, brute
Corvo forms a spear hand and stabs out at you.
Your left arm has taken 3.99% damage.
He connects to the left arm!
Health Lost: 506, blunt, brute
Corvo forms a spear hand and stabs out at you.
Your left arm has taken 3.99% damage.
He connects to the left arm!
Health Lost: 506, blunt, brute
(System) Praenomen Defence celerity lost.
You have been slain by Corvo.

Minus shell, I was fully deffed as far as damage reduction goes (43% blunt audit). The other "affliction" my system is tracking is pre-restore on my left arm. I was parrying. I actually parried -a lot- of his combo's, and was still bashed to death.

How am I suppose to fight against this? Predict his combos 100% accurately or die? He did 40% of my HP in one combo, and it wasn't even his most damaging one.

Keroc

What class are you using for this fight?

Draiman

Bloodborn/Rituos/w/e you want to call it.

Draiman

Has it ever been suggested that discernment in vision be lowered from Trans? Would this be something the admin are willing to do?

Serrice

Yes, and that's why we now have the Shining Eye of Lanos enchantments. Report 1637.

Draiman

Yeah that enchantment is complete garbage and completely missed the point of that report. You can't fight without tracking (a few classes could probably get away with it and already do to an extent) and you can't track class cures, purity, renew, or tree with that enchantment, trans vision is still a necessity.

Draiman

What happened here:

You use Sciomancy Fluxus (begin) on Raeche.
With a mirthless smile, you close your eyes and reach perilously inward to your link with the plane
of Shadow that lies deep within your very being. A rime of frost covers your flesh, the air suddenly
drained of all life as the plane of Shadow yawns wide within your mind. Extending a hand outward
before Raeche, tendrils of writhing magic appear within your outstretched grasp that feed at the air
before her with chilling voracity.
Equilibrium Used: 2.15 seconds
H:5207 M:262 E:26440 W:23750 B:100% Night [csdb -b] Soul: 100
You may consume another curative.
H:5207 M:262 E:26440 W:23750 B:100% Night [csdb -b] Soul: 100
A fiery efreeti spins into you, causing you to burst into flame.
(System) You have ablaze
(System) You have 5 afflictions.
Health Lost: 142, fire, none
H:5065 M:262 E:26440 W:23750 B:100% Night [csdb -b] Soul: 100
The sileris coating Raeche's body sloughs off, unable to stick to her unnaturally slick skin.
H:5065 M:262 E:26440 W:23750 B:100% Night [csdb -b] Soul: 100
Sudden, irrational fear fills your mind.
(System) You have shyness
(System) You have 6 afflictions.
Raeche is suffering the effects of your creeps (shyness) vibration.
A sense of extreme nausea washes over you.
(System) You have vomiting
(System) You have 7 afflictions.
Raeche is suffering the effects of your plague (confusion) vibration.
H:5065 M:262 E:26440 W:23750 B:100% Night [csdb -b] Soul: 100
Your mind is able to focus once again.
A fiery efreeti uses Elemancy Efreeti Ignite on you.
A fiery efreeti hurls its flaming body into you, setting you ablaze.
Health Lost: 142, fire, none
Raeche uses Crystalism Tone Creeps on you.
Raeche directs a discordant tone to disrupt the flow of the creeps vibration around you.
A myriad of dark, shifting colors overwhelms you and you feel your grasp of your sanity begin to
slowly fade.
(System) You have masochism
(System) You have 8 afflictions.
Raeche weaves a fiery canvas before her, and it quickly dissolves into a mirror image reflection of
herself!
H:4923 M:262 E:26440 W:23750 B:100% Night [csdb -b] Soul: 100
You have recovered equilibrium.
H:4923 M:262 E:26440 W:23784 B:100% Night [csdb eb] Soul: 100
Raeche shivers and sweats, her pupils wildly dilated with fear.
Raeche blinks rapidly, rubbing her eyes.
H:4923 M:262 E:26440 W:23784 B:100% Night [csdb eb] Soul: 100
You are again able to use a healing serum.
Raeche takes a drink from a slender white birch vial.
H:4923 M:262 E:26440 W:23784 B:100% Night [csdb eb] Soul: 100
A deep thrum echoes from the Mistbrand upon you.
You are mete out with stupidity by the mists.
(System) You have stupidity
(System) You have 9 afflictions.
H:4923 M:262 E:26440 W:23784 B:100% Night [csdb eb] Soul: 100
All of Raeche's reflections wink out of existence!
Raeche uses Elemancy Staffcast Scintilla on you.
As Raeche points a fiery aetherstaff of swirling spatial motes at you, a scintilla of bright,
burning light shoots out, striking you with focused elemental power.
Health Lost: 900, fire, magical
(System) You have fireweakness
(System) You have 10 afflictions.
H:4023 M:262 E:26440 W:23784 B:100% Night [csdb eb] Soul: 100
Raeche gives you the once over.
H:4023 M:262 E:26440 W:23784 B:100% Night [csdb eb] Soul: 100
(System) Doing focus to cure stupidity
The kidney slice has cleared your system.
A series of palpitations of your heart leaves you drained.
Health Lost: 338, magic, magical
Your target has escaped your fluxus.
H:3685 M:262 E:26440 W:23784 B:100% Night [csdb eb] Soul: 100

Raeche didn't do anything to interrupt and didn't leave room, soooo...............wtf?

Draiman

Ignore the system saying it's doing focus, it's not. All commands are blocked through my send command so all the functions still run and the echo's still fire, but it's not doing anything to interrupt the channel unless it has too. Focus wasn't sent.

Draiman

Whining about stuff that is retarded and blatantly stupid in the past has never fixed anything so why keep going.

Zsadist

Edit: Figured out what the issue was. Damn Nal'jin tricksy rooms!

Serrice

You can do both. Zephyr/waterwalking. Last I recall, anyways. Should probably test.

Rashar

This that's about the only time to turn off zephyr.

Draiman

Is this real?

H:2950 M:2790 E:25734 W:25421 B:100% Morning [csdb eb] Soul: 100
All your reflections wink out of existence!
(System) Sciomancer Defence reflection lost.
Mana Lost: 50
You use Crystalism Tone Harmony on you.
You direct a discordant tone to disrupt the flow of the harmony vibration around yourself.
Health Gain: 197
Mana Gain: 229
Sorcery Balance Used: 6.00 seconds
H:3147 M:2969 E:25734 W:25401 B:100% Morning [csdb eb] Soul: 100

Malok

Come on, dude.

Draiman

Why do shadeling/efreeti go away after x amount of time? Why can't they just be permanently here until you banish/bash/class change/w/e?

Serrice

Legacy design.

Draiman

Isto carefully wipes all the venoms off of a menacing flail.
Isto carefully wipes all the venoms off of a menacing flail.
Isto uses Battlefury Doublestrike on you.
Isto tears your left leg asunder with a sweeping crush of a menacing flail.
Your left leg has taken 3.43% damage.
You feel light bruises forming on your left leg.
(System) You have leftlegbruised
(System) You have 4 afflictions.
Health Lost: 381, blunt, brute
You are confused as to the effects of the venom.
Health Lost: 319, poison, none

????

I'm not going to pretend I know a thing about limb combat, let alone Templar limb combat. Is that a thing though or a bug?

Ishin

Draiman said:

Isto carefully wipes all the venoms off of a menacing flail.
Isto carefully wipes all the venoms off of a menacing flail.
Isto uses Battlefury Doublestrike on you.
Isto tears your left leg asunder with a sweeping crush of a menacing flail.
Your left leg has taken 3.43% damage.
You feel light bruises forming on your left leg.
(System) You have leftlegbruised
(System) You have 4 afflictions.
Health Lost: 381, blunt, brute
You are confused as to the effects of the venom.
Health Lost: 319, poison, none

????

I'm not going to pretend I know a thing about limb combat, let alone Templar limb combat. Is that a thing though or a bug?

Bug. Blunt weapons aren't supposed to deliver venoms with any attacks.

Isto

I wasn't using any venoms, just trauma. Is that from bruising or something?

Kaedok

What speed stat do I need on a weapon to achieve ~3.22s balance times without a +speed enhancement in my statpack?

Ishin

Kaedok said:

What speed stat do I need on a weapon to achieve ~3.22s balance times without a +speed enhancement in my statpack?

Depends on what class you're using, tbh.

Kaedok

Of course, sorry I should have mentioned. Praenomen.

Malok

Is there a cooldown on Kai Banish?

Actually, I found out there is. However, does anyone know how long the cooldown is?

Draiman

Could you guys change eyeball/kelp in HELP CURES REANIMATION/CONCOCTIONS and just put asthma/limpveins in the same spot, just separate them by a / or something? It's confusing @Zsadist and other newbies.

Zsadist

Can we get SECT CHALLENGE put onto the COOLDOWNS timer?

Also, can we decrease the timer from 1 hr to like... 30 minutes or something??

Rashar

Mentioned it in game, but. I also thought it'd be interesting if there was a small window, say one minute or so after a challenge, where any accepts were placed into a pool that was drawn from randomly. So I challenge, and for the first 60 seconds if you accept it doesn't go through right away. And if three people accept, it could either randomly select or pair based on similar sect fights numbers or rank or whatever.

Mostly it would just prevent the instant sect challenge/accept that happens between people who were going to fight anyway because of testing / whatever, and gives others a chance to get in on it.

Of course, it's also an opportunity for @lim to bully us all. Maybe put him on a personal cool down. I'm cool with that.

Malok

Maybe this will fall under another 'figure it out yourself' situation, but in the AB file for Soulthirst it mentions it will make you attack the target faster, but it doesn't. Was that a change with the Carnifex rework and it just wasn't changed in the AB file? I'm just curious.