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  • OleisOleis Producer Emeritus Administrator, Immortal
    My personal inclination on lyre IS to make it PvE only.

    Not saying that's what we'd do, because I'm not the sole decision maker. But that's the report I'd write.
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    [---]
    "^," Slyphe agrees with you.
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  • EzalorEzalor Emperor D'baen Canada
    Haha I remember @Ison using Lyre in the Year 400 Survivor events. The admin totally trolled him by letting it fly and having the mobs ignore him for 90% of the event. Then once there were about 100 mobs gathered in that room with him they spawned a Lyre-breaking mob.
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  • IlyonIlyon
    Stathan said:

    Take out the highest threat first.

    There is more to target prioritization than that.

    IshinMoirean
  • IlyonIlyon
    edited June 2014
    Oleis said:

    My personal inclination on lyre IS to make it PvE only.

    Not a change I would recommend/endorse, as it'd effectively make the lyre useless outside of some very niche scenarios, but we can discuss that when/if someone makes a lyre-related report.

  • StathanStathan Hot springs
    Ilyon said:

    Stathan said:

    Take out the highest threat first.

    There is more to target prioritization than that.
    I'm aware @Ilyon. The problem is it seems to be a favored tactic when some groups get together and it leaves little people with insta-kills doing just that. Insta-gibbing someone out of the fight. A little bit of coordination goes a long way.
  • DaskalosDaskalos Credit Whore Extraordinare Rolling amongst piles of credits.
    Ilyon said:

    Oleis said:

    My personal inclination on lyre IS to make it PvE only.

    Not a change I would recommend/endorse, as it'd effectively make the lyre useless outside of some very niche scenarios, but we can discuss that when/if someone makes a lyre-related report.
    Honestly, lyre would be fine if some things that had been changed in the past would be undone. I'm ok with with mentis going through it (they whisper) but at some point it was made that hellsight didn't (they stare at you). Neither are physical attacks and the disproportionate way that things go through while others don't (including hellsight used to go through and at some point was shadow changed not to) is what really bugs me about it.

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    Message #17059 Sent By: Oleis           Received On: 1/03/2014/17:24
    "If it makes you feel better, just checking your artifact list threatens to crash my mudlet."

  • IshinIshin Retired Lurker Virginia
    Why hellsight? Perform force, dude.
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    I remember, involve me and I
    learn.
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  • DaskalosDaskalos Credit Whore Extraordinare Rolling amongst piles of credits.
    edited June 2014
    Force strips it but puts me off eq for 4 seconds. Hellsight is shorter, and if they choose to stay behind barrier and not cure it, they're screwed. You can also strum lyre again before I get eq back.

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    Message #17059 Sent By: Oleis           Received On: 1/03/2014/17:24
    "If it makes you feel better, just checking your artifact list threatens to crash my mudlet."

  • EzalorEzalor Emperor D'baen Canada
    Lyre's just really icky to balance. Some classes can lol at it (Mentis berserk/masochism), some classes can't do anything but stand there and cry.
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  • AngweAngwe I'm the dog that ate yr birthday cake Bedford, VA
    Feichin lifts his arms overhead, the dust and earth rising up around him.
    The earthen cloud thickens and cakes upon Feichin's flesh, and when it
    falls away, Feichin appears healthier.
    You discern that Feichin has cured the effects of slickness.
    [Tripwire]: PK: Feichin has cured slickness (discernment) (2.878s)
    You discern that Feichin has cured the effects of limp veins.
    [Tripwire]: PK: Feichin has cured limpveins (discernment) (5.511s)
    What is this and does it have a cooldown or any way of stopping it?
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  • StathanStathan Hot springs
    Angwe said:

    Feichin lifts his arms overhead, the dust and earth rising up around him.
    The earthen cloud thickens and cakes upon Feichin's flesh, and when it
    falls away, Feichin appears healthier.
    You discern that Feichin has cured the effects of slickness.
    [Tripwire]: PK: Feichin has cured slickness (discernment) (2.878s)
    You discern that Feichin has cured the effects of limp veins.
    [Tripwire]: PK: Feichin has cured limpveins (discernment) (5.511s)
    What is this and does it have a cooldown or any way of stopping it?


    Is earth absorb and no idea, no idea and uh, no idea.
  • NalorNalor UK
    edited June 2014
    Angwe said:

    Feichin lifts his arms overhead, the dust and earth rising up around him.
    The earthen cloud thickens and cakes upon Feichin's flesh, and when it
    falls away, Feichin appears healthier.
    You discern that Feichin has cured the effects of slickness.
    [Tripwire]: PK: Feichin has cured slickness (discernment) (2.878s)
    You discern that Feichin has cured the effects of limp veins.
    [Tripwire]: PK: Feichin has cured limpveins (discernment) (5.511s)
    What is this and does it have a cooldown or any way of stopping it?


    Kill him? It has no cooldown and its earth absorb, Shamans have the same thing.. So do luminaries, kinda (evoke fire self)
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  • IrruelIrruel
    Also bloodboil for mage classes, and what's the tarot card that cures 3? Does it still exist? I'm not sure which have cooldowns and which don't.
  • TozToz
    edited June 2014
    Tarot card cures 2 random affs and has a 40s or so cooldown.
    Earth absorb (what he was using) has a 10s cooldown and cures 2 random affs.

    Shaman/Luminary does not have a cooldown and cures 2 random affs.

    EDIT: They're stopped by broken arms, or PARALYSIS but not PARESIS.

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    You're a singularity of fucking awfulness Toz
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  • HavenHaven World Burner Flight School
    Toz said:

    Tarot card cures 2 random affs and has a 40s or so cooldown.
    Earth absorb (what he was using) has a 10s cooldown and cures 2 random affs.

    Shaman/Luminary does not have a cooldown and cures 2 random affs.

    EDIT: They're stopped by broken arms, or PARALYSIS but not PARESIS.

    Luminary's evoke fire self cures 1 random affliction and is only stopped by paralysis or prone. Maybe just any "proning"/writhing affliction save paresis. Broken arms won't stop Lumi cleanse.
    ¤ Si vis pacem, para bellum. ¤
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  • TozToz
    K, good to know. Teradrim absorb won't cure even with 1 broken arm, but I've seen Shaman pancake cure a broken arm before. Thought Luminary self-cure was 2 affs, but guess not - I know Teradrim is if they're in the desert/sand environment, and Shamans only works in forest/overgrowth but cures 2 always afaik.

    Arbre-Today at 7:27 PM

    You're a vindictive lil unicorn
    ---------------------------

    Lartus-Today at 7:16 PM

    oh wait, toz is famous

    Karhast-Today at 7:01 PM

    You're a singularity of fucking awfulness Toz
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    Didi's voice resonates across the land, "Yay tox."
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    Ictinus — 11/01/2021

    Block Toz
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    lim — Today at 10:38 PM


    you disgust me
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  • HavenHaven World Burner Flight School
    Gimme Syssin immortality over any of that.
    ¤ Si vis pacem, para bellum. ¤
    Someone powerful says, "We're going to have to delete you."
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  • IrruelIrruel
    Toz said:

    K, good to know. Teradrim absorb won't cure even with 1 broken arm, but I've seen Shaman pancake cure a broken arm before. Thought Luminary self-cure was 2 affs, but guess not - I know Teradrim is if they're in the desert/sand environment, and Shamans only works in forest/overgrowth but cures 2 always afaik.

    There is a fetish that allows shaman abilities to ignore the broken arm.
    The shaman gets 3 fetish slots, so if they choose this one they are not choosing a different one, which is the theoretical balance for what is a powerful effect.

    I rarely use that particular fetish but know that it is there, ready to go if needed.


  • AishiaAishia Queen Bee
    both arms broke stops it, or para, or prone, or paresis(now).
  • XavinXavin
    The fetish only allows Primality abilities to work with a single broken arm, by the by.

  • IrruelIrruel
    Right. There ya go. Hrm.
  • ReuxReux
    edited July 2014
    Haven said:

    Focus Curing Order: 

    stupidity | anorexia | epilepsy | paranoia | hallucinations | shyness | stuttering | dizziness | indifference | berserking | pacifism | lovers | hatred | generosity | claustrophobia | vertigo | loneliness | agoraphobia | masochism | recklessness | weariness | confusion | dementia

    I don't know the place of the new affliction mirroring or if anything else was added since @Missari and I compiled that list (mainly her but shh!) but I'll be happy to do some testing!
    This still accurate?

    I really think this kind of information should have its own help file, like help cures concoctions/reanimation. Or be part of the afflict list descriptions. Or have it's own syntax as a part of learning the ability in Survival. Yeah yeah, IDEA 3968 and 3969 written!

    Edit
    I'm testing what I can bellow out as a werecroc and this seems to be holding together. So this may be for naught regardless.
    I mean, you know, an amount.


  • IshinIshin Retired Lurker Virginia
    @Reux - Yeah it's accurate, but mirroring is in there somewhere, I can't remember where it falls though.
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    I remember, involve me and I
    learn.
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  • ReuxReux
    Are these two different things?

    help cures concoctions
    Goldenseal
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    stupidity
    dizziness
    shyness
    epilepsy
    impatience
    resonance
    dissonance
    infested
    insomnia

    afflict resonance show
    Affliction: Resonance. Diagnose: resonating strangely. Cure message: The strange resonance fades away. Description: Your enemies will be able to assess your state of well-being without loss of balance or equilibrium. Herb: Nothing. Slice: Nothing. Salve: Nothing. Poultice: Nothing. Smoked: Nothing. Tincture: Nothing. Special: Nothing.
    I mean, you know, an amount.


  • IshinIshin Retired Lurker Virginia
    I only see one choice highlighted, but to answer the question, yes they're the same thing. Templar affliction, buddy.

    Resonance (Bladefire) Known: No
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    This power will allow you to use the following abilities on whomever you
    have afflicted with it, without causing you to lose balance or
    equilibrium:
    - Diagnose
    - Wounds

    To utilize this power, use the following syntax:
    RESONANCE
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    I remember, involve me and I
    learn.
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    Reux
  • ReuxReux
    Afflict list is missing its cure then.

    I tried to highlight that part of it, but 
     acts weird on this forum. Bah.
    I mean, you know, an amount.


  • DaskalosDaskalos Credit Whore Extraordinare Rolling amongst piles of credits.
    It's probably because resonance was changed last liaison round. They probably forgot to update the file.

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    Message #17059 Sent By: Oleis           Received On: 1/03/2014/17:24
    "If it makes you feel better, just checking your artifact list threatens to crash my mudlet."

    Oleis
  • OleisOleis Producer Emeritus Administrator, Immortal
    Nailed it. Fixed.
    You say to Slyphe, "You're so freaking smart."
    [---]
    "^," Slyphe agrees with you.
  • AldricAldric
    I didn't want to start a new thread for this, but there wasn't anywhere else to really put it. As I'm going through Carni defenses, I've noticed some things were missing the 'You have gained the x defence' line, and figured I'd compile these for @Oleis @Keroc or @Razmael for the sake of consistency.

    SAVAGERY
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    HerculeanRage shows the 'You have gained the herculeanrage defence' line but does not show any 'Your herculeanrage defence has been stripped' line when it's deactivated.

    DEATHLORE
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    SOUL EMBED IN BODY
    SOUL EMBED IN ARMOR
    SOUL EMBED IN WEAPON

    These three are missing both 'You have gained the x' and 'Your x has been stripped' lines

    SOUL SPIRITSIGHT

    Missing 'You have gained the spiritsight defence' but shows the message properly on having it stripped.

    SOUL MASK

    Missing defence gained message, and I'm not sure if it has the stripped one since I can't figure out the proper defense name to relax it.

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  • OleisOleis Producer Emeritus Administrator, Immortal
    Thanks!
    You say to Slyphe, "You're so freaking smart."
    [---]
    "^," Slyphe agrees with you.
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