Quotes & Misquotes: Falling Off of Bridges

Erikka

Erikka might just have the best parents ever. Ciarelle found a way for her father to be at her wedding. (Backstory, he's leafy for a while) XD

 Ciarelle stands here, clutching a collection of lush green leaves.

Xavin

Erikka said:

Erikka might just have the best parents ever. Ciarelle found a way for her father to be at her wedding. (Backstory, he's leafy for a while) XD

 Ciarelle stands here, clutching a collection of lush green leaves.

For some reason I find that to be hilarious.

Ciarelle

Aisling tells you, "Treehugger."

=(

Ingram

tattoos @Ezalor

On Ezalor you see:

Left leg:    Bell         Uses left: 9

tattoos ezalor

On Ezalor you see:

Left leg:    Bell         Uses left: 9

tattoos ezalor

On Ezalor you see:

Left leg:    Bell         Uses left: 9

tattoos ezalor

On Ezalor you see:

Left leg:    Bell         Uses left: 8

Wait--

Ezalor ceases to wield a delightfully sadistic Iosai flail, securing it to his 

weaponbelt.

Ezalor starts to wield an eye sigil in his left hand.

Ezalor throws a sigil at the ground which bursts in a flash of light.

There's a flash of light and you're pulled back into phase with reality.

There may be better Syssin out there.

Moirean

There may be better way to get those snuggles.

Emelle

Abbreviated for effectiveness:

A brass mask appears, suspended in mid-air. Moments later, its owner manifests: none other than the Goddess Omei.

"Do you know what I call someone who casts doubts and inspires a less than complete understanding without any solid purpose?" Omei asks, soft and dulcet, Her voice metallic.

"Artificer," Omei whispers, the word given a sickly-sweet edge by Her smiling mask.

Grand Mistress Mireia Qefin says to Omei, the Artist, "I do hope that you are not implying my purpose is less than solid, Lady. I stand here curious as to why Your followers traipse around with a chained woman in tow. But my purpose remains the same as it ever was."

"Do you doubt My children?" Omei asks, Her arms crossed, mask glinting in the bloody red light. "You were given your answer. Do you doubt My Zoyla's -threat-?"

Meltas reaches down around his waist and pulls at his robes, he taps his foot lightly on the ground and an elemental chair forms behind him. Made of ice this armchair is perfectly carved. He takes a seat and rests one elbow on the arm of the chair and crosses his leg over the other watching quietly.

(.gif courtesy of @Ingram)

Erzsebet

He's missing the bag of popcorn.

Ingram

Haha, that's what I said.

Emelle

For what it's worth, eventually a drink and a pipe did make an appearance.

Xavin

I...what. I don't think mages can actually -do- that

Solaria

Xavin said:

I...what. I don't think mages can actually -do- that

It's Meltas. That says it all.

Xavin

Solaria said:

Xavin said:

I...what. I don't think mages can actually -do- that

It's Meltas. That says it all.

I just. I feel like that's no excuse. Ascendril and Sciomancers aren't conjurers. They're not high-powered wizards or sorcerers. And they certainly don't have mastery over the elements enough to do crap like that. I mean, there is a lot of leeway for what we can and can't do. I personally look at elemancy and, to some extent, sciomancy like element-bending but urgh.

Jensen

So creating a singularity is within reason but flash freezing the moisture in the air to create a chair isn't? Why is it so absurd for mages to have a little outside the box fun? I'm aware of how ridiculous the action is, but having fun is part of the game

Xavin

The trouble is that it's a much more focused thing than a singularity or holocaust globe. Most things in elemancy and sciomancy are in broad strokes. Fist-sized chunks of ice or stone, inherently unstable creations like holocaust globes, or summoned elementals that are fairly raw in terms of shaping. Making something structured like a chair out of ice would require much more detail and finesse than the skills themselves imply.

Benedicto

Just to play Devil's Advocate, what about the staffs? They're created using Elemancy/Sciomancy and they're pretty refined I would say!

Jensen

I thought I had seen the last of that sig, could he wear something more than a paper towel?

Benedicto

No.

Xavin

Benedicto said:

Just to play Devil's Advocate, what about the staffs? They're created using Elemancy/Sciomancy and they're pretty refined I would say!

Even the staves are pretty simple, custom staves aside. Here's the description of the standard aetherstaff:

Solid and slightly cool under one's hand, this aetherstaff is approximately four feet tall. It appears as a sturdy length of gnarled wood, yet this illusion does not hold upon closer observation. Insubstantial, flickering tongues of crimson-white fire leap about the entirety of the aetherstaff, whorling about its basic structure that has been kept constant by magical means. Fixed into thehead of the aetherstaff is a translucent piece of crystal shaped into a hollowed-out sphere. Glowing with unmitigated power, the orb is surrounded by swirling spatial motes of blue, red and white.

It's a pretty basic piece of equipment, just barely held together by the mage's power. I would imagine shadowstaffs are similar, though I don't have a description on hand. And if that's the most complex structure an ascendril can form from the elements, with quite a bit of effort, mind you, then something like flash-freezing a decent chair from ambient moisture is, at the very least, going to take quite a bit of effort if it's even possible.

Rashar

See, that's why people don't want to be Ascendril. Can't even do cool mage stuff. "I want to be a boring scholar with rudimentary every-day magic skills" said not a single powerful sorcerer-to-be ever. *waits for Xavin to prism/pk him*

Daingean

I routinely made an ice chair with my sylvan in Achaea - they have magi elementalism. Daingean routinely uses illumination to do things it doesn't do - like melting and shaping metal with his bare hands and creating a little fire person that looks vaguely like his sister in moments of emo. My teradrim often sat on a chair formed by his golem.

I think what I'm saying is that little bends of the mechanical expectations of a skillset can be fun for rp without really impacting the game at all.

Maybe elementalism functions exactly as Xavin believes, and Meltas has devoted a freakishly ridiuclous amount of time to studying how staves were formed and decided to try making a chair out of it. I highly doubt that level of rp exists there, but I could pretend it does for the sake of accepting an emote.

Toz

Chair = 4 icewalls. Tall icewall for the back, smaller/sturdier icewall for the seat, two thin icewalls for the arm rests. Boom, there's a chair.

Irruel

People have been doing stuff like that with their mage characters since day one. If the lore doesn't match the reality, it is at least as much the fault of the lore(makers) as the players, since the lore came long after.

Slyphe

I actually really, really like seeing things like that (generally) in the game. Bringing your mechanical skills into your roleplay makes for an awesome experience that's a lot of fun. Whenever this subject comes up I can't help but think of the Cabalists in general, who are renown for utilizing Numerology and Necromancy in their roleplay to make some really awesome things. 

Does Numerology actually have a skill to turn somebody inside out mechanically? No. 

Does @Eleanor still justify its potential existence with RP to back it up? Heck to the yes, and in the process she adds some mystical sort of feeling to the skillset that the mechanical skills themselves can't come close to doing on their own.

Teani

And as @Toz so beautifully explained it, we can make walls. Meltas has been a mage for... how long? Perhaps he's had some time to perfect the skill of making that one particular creation. Much like some shamans can beckon and weave plants into chairs and other things with a wave of their hands in their RP.

I also agree with @Rashar. If you push down on people having fun RP connected to the role of a mage, that isn't necessarily too far off course, you won't attract many people. "Make the world a better place, become a researcher" doesn't speak to everyone. "Throw fireballs (holocausts), weave spells and conjure magical things" is what mages generally do. Might be good to draw some attention to those things instead and incorporate them into guild RP.

Bakhtuh

It's kind of a fine line between doing things with skills and doing too much. The chair, in my opinion, was fine. 

If the mage in question conjured up a whole winter wonderland with ice elementals and...snow clowns spewing out icecream, that would've been too much. Unless said Ascendril worked with a Praenomen who summoned a wraith made up to appear as a clown before which hid a phased Syssin standing in front of the wraith's gaping mouth throwing icecream making it appear as if clown-wraith was spewing icecream...yeah. That would work. 

Aetolia. The possibilities are endless. 

but only with phase

Moirean

@Bakhtuh, I love you, never change.

Toz

Except your name, so I quit trying to do $Bahkatu

Moirean

Tbh, I've forgotten how the guild's name is spelled after interacting with Bakhtuh so much. Good thing it's being deleted someday >_>

Xavin

I guess I'm wrong and things like that just grind on me. I guess it just bothers me when the extent of a skillset is shown to be one thing and then people do something above and beyond with very little precedent to back it up. It just feels like a slippery slope to me.

Emelle

@Xavin: I don't think you're wrong -- I, for one, totally understand where you're coming from -- but I think it's a matter of degree. In this case, while possibly a little excessive given the usual IG lore/mechanics, it was just a random little one-off that was for lulz. If it had seriously detracted from the scene, or was completely outrageous, or was godmoding in any way, those are points at which I think the onus is on the pbase to police itself, and I trust that it would.

But, if there are real boundary concerns here, maybe the admin can help clarify some of the lore.