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Announce post #3220: Heigh-ho! Mining is here!
9/18/2021 at 1:19
Ictinus, the Architect
Everyone
Heigh-ho! Mining is here!
Hi everyone!
It is my great pleasure to announce that Mining is now available!
Before I get into the specifics, I would like to give a massive shout out to Razmael for the enormous amount of work he's put into this system, and to the many people on the team (some of whom are sadly no longer with us) that have had a big hand in bringing this project to completion.
Onward!
WHAT IS MINING?
===============
Mining joins Farming as the second of our Agriculture skills, centred around setting up and staffing your own mining operation in order to extract metal ores from the earth.
Like Farming, it is a fully realised skillset with a full slew of abilities from hiring Gnome workers, building offices, and actually mining ores to the laying of track networks for carts and the use of controlled bomb detonations.
AB MINING has extensive details on how everything works, and HELP MINING exists as an overview of the system.
WHERE CAN I LEARN THE SKILL AND OBTAIN EQUIPMENT?
=================================================
The Mining skill can be obtained from Philbert at a cost of 10,000 gold with LEARN ABILITY OF MINING FROM PHILBERT. Enemies of Gorshire will find the cost is significantly higher.
Those who supported Philbert in the recent Gorshire elections will be able to pick it up at no gold cost. Once obtained, the skill is learned like any other.
Philbert will also supply a variety of basic equipment from both the Syndicate headquarters in Lodi and at the various outposts across the world.
AGRICULTURE SKILLS
==================
Our plan for Agriculture skills is for everyone to be able to hold two of the three that will become available when the system is complete. With that in mind:
* Agriculture skills now work on a slot based system. Everyone begins with one slot, and the second slot can be obtained for a cost of 150,000 gold. Use AGRICULTURE EXPAND CAPACITY to do this.
* If you already possess Farming and wish to convert it to Mining, you may do so for no cost using AGRICULTURE SWITCH. THIS WILL DELETE ALL OF YOUR FARMS AND YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO RETRIEVE THEM. CHOOSE WISELY.
This option will remain available until the end of September.
HOW TO GET STARTED
==================
Once you've obtained the skill and picked up your equipment, you'll want to head to your city's outpost. These operate on the overhead wilderness map similarly to Farming, though fair warning: the mining maps are MUCH bigger.
Bloodloch | The Mhojave Desert | v53195
Duiran | The Western Ithmia | v68504
Enorian | The Shamtota Hills | v68550
Spinesreach | The Telfinne Caverns | v68946
Once there, you simply ENTER OUTPOST and you can begin searching for a desirable mine.
PROSPECT per room to discern the ores available and in what approximate volumes. PROSPECT AREA to scan the whole map at once and see an at a glance view of what ore is most common on which tile. The ore presence on each tile is set until the next Howling, at which point it will be rerolled.
When you're happy with a spot, you can then MINING DELVE to enter the mine and explore it.
If you decide that you wish to keep the mine you've just opened, return to the surface and CLAIM MINE WITH DEED.
NOTE: As with Farming on its release, you can only have one Mining deed for now. As the system settles into place, we will consider opening up multiple deeds.
With that, you are ready to build an office and get started. I strongly recommend reading through all of AB MINING, as the volume of information is too much to write here.
DEPOSITS AND VEINS
==================
You will find ores in two different states within mines: deposits, and veins. Deposits appear in the room like a normal item and can be mined with your pickaxe. Whereas veins are tiles on the map that must be mined by your Gnome workers. Refer to AB MINING PICKAXE and AB MINING VEINS for more details.
GRAPHICAL MAP
=============
At this time, there's no graphical map for Mining like Farming has. A graphical map for Mining holds significantly more challenges than Farming did, and we did not want to hold up the entire system for it. We'll still look at doing it in the future, but it will depend on whether we can overcome the difficulties posed by it.
USEFUL FILES
=============
- AB MINING
- HELP MINING
- HELP AGRICULTURE
- HELP PRODUCTION
- HELP DEVELOPMENT PRODUCTION
As this is such a big release, we'll be monitoring it over the coming days and making adjustments as necessary. Please report any bugs or typos you encounter, and feel free to ask if anything in the ABs or HELPs is not clear.
Enjoy!
Penned by my hand on Kinsday, the 20th of Niuran, in the year 497 MA.
Ictinus, the Architect
Everyone
Heigh-ho! Mining is here!
Hi everyone!
It is my great pleasure to announce that Mining is now available!
Before I get into the specifics, I would like to give a massive shout out to Razmael for the enormous amount of work he's put into this system, and to the many people on the team (some of whom are sadly no longer with us) that have had a big hand in bringing this project to completion.
Onward!
WHAT IS MINING?
===============
Mining joins Farming as the second of our Agriculture skills, centred around setting up and staffing your own mining operation in order to extract metal ores from the earth.
Like Farming, it is a fully realised skillset with a full slew of abilities from hiring Gnome workers, building offices, and actually mining ores to the laying of track networks for carts and the use of controlled bomb detonations.
AB MINING has extensive details on how everything works, and HELP MINING exists as an overview of the system.
WHERE CAN I LEARN THE SKILL AND OBTAIN EQUIPMENT?
=================================================
The Mining skill can be obtained from Philbert at a cost of 10,000 gold with LEARN ABILITY OF MINING FROM PHILBERT. Enemies of Gorshire will find the cost is significantly higher.
Those who supported Philbert in the recent Gorshire elections will be able to pick it up at no gold cost. Once obtained, the skill is learned like any other.
Philbert will also supply a variety of basic equipment from both the Syndicate headquarters in Lodi and at the various outposts across the world.
AGRICULTURE SKILLS
==================
Our plan for Agriculture skills is for everyone to be able to hold two of the three that will become available when the system is complete. With that in mind:
* Agriculture skills now work on a slot based system. Everyone begins with one slot, and the second slot can be obtained for a cost of 150,000 gold. Use AGRICULTURE EXPAND CAPACITY to do this.
* If you already possess Farming and wish to convert it to Mining, you may do so for no cost using AGRICULTURE SWITCH. THIS WILL DELETE ALL OF YOUR FARMS AND YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO RETRIEVE THEM. CHOOSE WISELY.
This option will remain available until the end of September.
HOW TO GET STARTED
==================
Once you've obtained the skill and picked up your equipment, you'll want to head to your city's outpost. These operate on the overhead wilderness map similarly to Farming, though fair warning: the mining maps are MUCH bigger.
Bloodloch | The Mhojave Desert | v53195
Duiran | The Western Ithmia | v68504
Enorian | The Shamtota Hills | v68550
Spinesreach | The Telfinne Caverns | v68946
Once there, you simply ENTER OUTPOST and you can begin searching for a desirable mine.
PROSPECT per room to discern the ores available and in what approximate volumes. PROSPECT AREA to scan the whole map at once and see an at a glance view of what ore is most common on which tile. The ore presence on each tile is set until the next Howling, at which point it will be rerolled.
When you're happy with a spot, you can then MINING DELVE to enter the mine and explore it.
If you decide that you wish to keep the mine you've just opened, return to the surface and CLAIM MINE WITH DEED.
NOTE: As with Farming on its release, you can only have one Mining deed for now. As the system settles into place, we will consider opening up multiple deeds.
With that, you are ready to build an office and get started. I strongly recommend reading through all of AB MINING, as the volume of information is too much to write here.
DEPOSITS AND VEINS
==================
You will find ores in two different states within mines: deposits, and veins. Deposits appear in the room like a normal item and can be mined with your pickaxe. Whereas veins are tiles on the map that must be mined by your Gnome workers. Refer to AB MINING PICKAXE and AB MINING VEINS for more details.
GRAPHICAL MAP
=============
At this time, there's no graphical map for Mining like Farming has. A graphical map for Mining holds significantly more challenges than Farming did, and we did not want to hold up the entire system for it. We'll still look at doing it in the future, but it will depend on whether we can overcome the difficulties posed by it.
USEFUL FILES
=============
- AB MINING
- HELP MINING
- HELP AGRICULTURE
- HELP PRODUCTION
- HELP DEVELOPMENT PRODUCTION
As this is such a big release, we'll be monitoring it over the coming days and making adjustments as necessary. Please report any bugs or typos you encounter, and feel free to ask if anything in the ABs or HELPs is not clear.
Enjoy!
Penned by my hand on Kinsday, the 20th of Niuran, in the year 497 MA.
Autoposter
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Re: Make Syssin RP more robust
I haven't thought this through fully, but I feel like there's a creative solution somewhere involving adjacent rooms, because I'm a big fan of moving away from "everything has to happen in the same room" gameplay. I think a player should be able to protect the room that they're in fairly easily (eye sigil, or whatever), since they would be realistically keeping an eye on their surroundings. Adjacent rooms, though? A bit harder to keep an eye on.
Again, just going off the cuff here / still working through my first cup of coffee, but what if Syssin could manipulate local/short-range wormhole magic for more short-distance spying abilities? Not long-distance aka safe, not in-room aka where everyone is in high alert.
Lenoriel sets up a hasty, temporary wormhole that allows her to tune into something happening a few rooms away (for added challenge, maybe she has to 'direct' the wormhole to the room she's trying to listen in on via some setup mechanic). She can monitor it in phase and optionally, maybe have to keep attuning it to its source to keep up a reliable feed of information.
Again, just going off the cuff here / still working through my first cup of coffee, but what if Syssin could manipulate local/short-range wormhole magic for more short-distance spying abilities? Not long-distance aka safe, not in-room aka where everyone is in high alert.
Lenoriel sets up a hasty, temporary wormhole that allows her to tune into something happening a few rooms away (for added challenge, maybe she has to 'direct' the wormhole to the room she's trying to listen in on via some setup mechanic). She can monitor it in phase and optionally, maybe have to keep attuning it to its source to keep up a reliable feed of information.
Sibatti
5
Re: Small Ideas - AIN'T NO COMBAT THREAD
Monthly auction for salvage, 4 lots of it. In gold. There's your goldsink, right there.
Toz
7
Re: Mirror classes
New producer bump. It was noted in the first town hall that mirrorIndorani would not be receiving a guild, but I feel this drum needs beaten again. The Indorani novice experience is horrid. Cities work fine as a support network, but not having an organization to move into after the academy experience really puts a damper on even the new player experience. The Former Guy stated they were looking into it (in this very thread), but nothing came of it. Can we either remove the tri-virt/duo-trans requirement on picking up a new class (and therefore joining a guild) or funnel them into one of BL's existing guilds? We'd love to keep the few Indorani we get around and not lose new players to a poorly thought-out system.Without built in guild support, though, I can see some starry eyes Fauxlots or Psuedofex newbies falling through the cracks with proper guides.
Actually, this is a really good point. We already have Indorani who either fall by the wayside or realize they want the guild experience, but are unable to join a guild because of the tri-virt/duo-trans requirement on owned classes. We really should reconsider that, since a lot of people join guilds for their RP and lore, not their class.
Iazamat
6
To Do List!
I noticed an idea for this and just in case it is never added or until it is added, here is mine! Works in Sunder. If you do not have Sunder, you will need this line spacing function:
todolist - shows your current to do list!
addtodo (entry goes here) - adds an entry to your to do list. Ignore the parentheses
deltodo (all/number) - deletes all entries or a specified entry. Again, without the parentheses
movetodo (position) (newposition) - moves one entry to a different position on the list.
edittodo (position) (new entry) - edits an entry
Everything will save to a file in your profile, so if you change to a different profile you will need to move the file over to the new profile WHILE MUDLET IS CLOSED.
If anyone has any questions, feel free to reach out to me!
function padLeft(s, l, c) return string.rep(c or ' ', l - #s) .. s end function padRight(s, l, c) return s .. string.rep(c or ' ', l - #s) endALIASES:
todolist - shows your current to do list!
addtodo (entry goes here) - adds an entry to your to do list. Ignore the parentheses
deltodo (all/number) - deletes all entries or a specified entry. Again, without the parentheses
movetodo (position) (newposition) - moves one entry to a different position on the list.
edittodo (position) (new entry) - edits an entry
Everything will save to a file in your profile, so if you change to a different profile you will need to move the file over to the new profile WHILE MUDLET IS CLOSED.
If anyone has any questions, feel free to reach out to me!
Rhine
6
Announce post #3218: Family Roleplay, Titles, and Seconds
9/13/2021 at 5:29
Ictinus, the Architect
Everyone
Family Roleplay, Titles, and Seconds
Hi folks,
We've had a couple of questions come up recently on the subject of family / heritage roleplay, and I would like to clarify the following:
- Wearing the title of a noble house such as those of Djeir is allowed, with some caveats:
- Unless officially sanctioned, no one is obligated to recognise or accept this claim, and others may dispute it in character if they wish.
- This includes admin-driven roleplay: NPCs or other admin-driven characters are very likely to dispute these claims if they are raised in an appropriate in character context.
- Claiming to be a direct descendant of a royal line or claims of other disprovable heritage are not appropriate.
- It is never appropriate to have multiple characters as part of the same family.
- Referring to other characters as family members, or involving them in another character's roleplay at all is in breach of HELP SECONDS.
- HELP SECONDS has been updated to reflect this.
Feel free to reach out if you have any questions about this!
Penned by my hand on Gosday, the 16th of Lanosian, in the year 497 MA.
Ictinus, the Architect
Everyone
Family Roleplay, Titles, and Seconds
Hi folks,
We've had a couple of questions come up recently on the subject of family / heritage roleplay, and I would like to clarify the following:
- Wearing the title of a noble house such as those of Djeir is allowed, with some caveats:
- Unless officially sanctioned, no one is obligated to recognise or accept this claim, and others may dispute it in character if they wish.
- This includes admin-driven roleplay: NPCs or other admin-driven characters are very likely to dispute these claims if they are raised in an appropriate in character context.
- Claiming to be a direct descendant of a royal line or claims of other disprovable heritage are not appropriate.
- It is never appropriate to have multiple characters as part of the same family.
- Referring to other characters as family members, or involving them in another character's roleplay at all is in breach of HELP SECONDS.
- HELP SECONDS has been updated to reflect this.
Feel free to reach out if you have any questions about this!
Penned by my hand on Gosday, the 16th of Lanosian, in the year 497 MA.
Re: Make Syssin RP more robust
Might be responding to some old posts but spying is one of those things where the more you try to do it the less chance you have of succeeding just because people naturally become more wary of it. I kind of feel like it's a binary thing here. We either make spying counter-able or we don't. You either succeed in the spying attempt or you don't.
Unfortunately, honestly if it was the former someone will take it too far and many people end up will up getting upset. There's also no real "winning" for the side "defending" against spying. At best they catch the spy and kill them and go back to the status quo.
I also think the Syssin have many avenues of exploring their identity other than "spying".
Unfortunately, honestly if it was the former someone will take it too far and many people end up will up getting upset. There's also no real "winning" for the side "defending" against spying. At best they catch the spy and kill them and go back to the status quo.
I also think the Syssin have many avenues of exploring their identity other than "spying".
Czcienn
5
Re: Make Syssin RP more robust
So, when we deal with gameplay, there's always a give-and-take. It's valid RP to be an antag who beats people up. I have to be able to succeed at that, and I risk losing that status if I get beat up in return. It's valid RP to be a politician and claim I speak for an org- I just have to win an election, and I can have that taken away. For every arena to compete in, there is an equal, proportional risk of that failure.
I genuinely believe theft and spying do not work in any meaningful way in IRE games due to the inability to enforce consequences. You cannot be permanently banned from joining another city, nor kept out of a Ministry for forever. People have also issued their way into guilds, or at least threatened to in the past. In real life, a spy caught while in the field gets executed and the information dies. In Aetolia, the spy dusts themselves off, goes "well that sucked" then turns in their report. I don't think the field can ever be evened, and it places all the potential for winning in the hand of one person (the aggressor) while the best the other (the target) can hope for is to not lose.
So, to make spying more appealing, you have to make *failing* as a spy more dangerous. How would that look? If you get caught at their newsroom, do you drop some Syssin guild newsposts? If you eavesdrop on a political conversation, can they catch you and find out a list of your guildmates? The victim is expected to be willing to lose, but the spy *can't* lose anything.
I suppose, fundamentally, I can't think of a compelling reason to lower my guard or let anyone spy on me when I'm aware it's a risk. And if you make spying more powerful, I'm just going to take further steps to obscure my information from view.
I genuinely believe theft and spying do not work in any meaningful way in IRE games due to the inability to enforce consequences. You cannot be permanently banned from joining another city, nor kept out of a Ministry for forever. People have also issued their way into guilds, or at least threatened to in the past. In real life, a spy caught while in the field gets executed and the information dies. In Aetolia, the spy dusts themselves off, goes "well that sucked" then turns in their report. I don't think the field can ever be evened, and it places all the potential for winning in the hand of one person (the aggressor) while the best the other (the target) can hope for is to not lose.
So, to make spying more appealing, you have to make *failing* as a spy more dangerous. How would that look? If you get caught at their newsroom, do you drop some Syssin guild newsposts? If you eavesdrop on a political conversation, can they catch you and find out a list of your guildmates? The victim is expected to be willing to lose, but the spy *can't* lose anything.
I suppose, fundamentally, I can't think of a compelling reason to lower my guard or let anyone spy on me when I'm aware it's a risk. And if you make spying more powerful, I'm just going to take further steps to obscure my information from view.
Toz
11
Re: Make Syssin RP more robust
If the entire purpose of your guild is to idle in phase collecting information instead of genuinely interacting with the world, your guild needs a better purpose. This isn't a fault of your class skills or class flavor - in terms of class fantasy fulfillment, Syssin is probably the very best class in the game. You have more RP tools than most other classes.
entire purpose of this guild.
The fault isn't the tools to fulfill your purpose - the fault is in the purpose itself. 'The spy guild' is a really one-dimensional concept.
Iesid
5
