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@Akrios: I am in no way trying to guilt him. My kids are my kids. However, when the argument is: Your fault for being afk... yes, it is. But something more important than aetolia came up. And clearly you have never dealt with a severely autistic child. I hear glass break, and again, I'm not thinking of aetolia, or disconnecting. I am thinking 'oh shit, has he hurt his sister again.' But you're right, I should focus on aetolia first and THEN see what is going on. How could I be so stupid?
Honestly, I wouldn't care if this didn't happen most every time I have to go afk. Even if I'm in the city. And then (not from nipsy) I hear bitching when I start going afk at the flame because 'no fair, we can't go there without dying'. I'm not a good pker. Most anyone can kill me even at keyboard. This waiting for people to go afk to attack is just bad sportsmanship. Even if I was afk just to watch a show while I idle doing nothing. I don't get it. I did it ONCE to Borm and I got so berated by shadow for attacking someone afk (they didn't even mention that it was in bloodloch, that part was IC) but when all your friends do the same thing, well, it's your fault for being afk. And they were right. I was an asshole to attack someone afk. And I've never done it since.
I said, very clearly, if you care about dying then you should take the literally half-second it takes to close off Aetolia. Which you can do in the process of getting out of your chair or whatever.
And yes, you are trying to guilt him by saying he "took advantage" of something (rather important) he had zero knowledge of. People afk for all sorts of reasons; how would anybody differentiate this from someone simply alt tabbing for 30s to look up a youtube video? Should we just not do anything whatsoever to someone who isn't immediately answering us? Should we send them tells asking if we can come pk them, when they're being antagonistic (and thus give them ample time to just go hide on guards)?
Also yes, absolutely everything should be decided from an IC perspective. That is literally the purpose of it being an RP game.
Life is hard, we get that. Probably easier not to let what's said get to you if you know you have a valid reason for not being able to engage - and if you happened to go afk when you've started something that absolutely will stir the other side up, they're reasonably not gonna be happy about it. Maybe it's time to rethink whether playing your character the way you do is the thing for you if this is bothering you this much/your family needs stop you from responding in a timely fashion in a RPK game. Ayastia can be nice enough to the people she likes, and character is a fluid thing.
EDIT: typo.
@Akrios: there is no attempt to guilt. The mention of my kids was an explanation of: your fault for being afk. And I understand perfectly what you said. I get what you said. What I am telling you is when you have a son who has hurt his sister before, you hear glass break, you are up and gone. You are NOT stopping for that half second it takes to close out aetolia because it is suddenly not on your mind. And it shouldn't be. Though you are right. People afk for different reasons. I was simply stating my reason for the rhetoric of 'your fault for being afk'. Which is to say I didn't really have a choice. I do not try and manipulate people. Do not accuse me of that bullshit. Disagree with my views all you want. Disagree with my arguments. But don't accuse me of manipulation. And one last thing before I drop all this: I disagree. Some things should not be decided solely on an ic basis. Is this one of them. Maybe not. After having a nap it's not something that has me frustrated anymore. But you most certainly take some ooc things into context before making ic decisions. There are some very dark themes in this game that can cause triggering effects on players, and you do not get to do it anyways because 'it is ic'. That is a terrible way of looking at it.
It's not shitty gaming etiquette. It's Nipsy playing a character, and you having a whinge that he did something you didn't like/agree with. The "terrible way of looking at it" are those who can't divorce themselves from their character, when deciding how their character's going to act. Nipsy's a great RPer for being able to do that very well.
People who want a kill (especially from a person who's notorious for shouting from behind locked doors in a city while on top of monoliths) are gonna do what they can to secure the kill; fair play in RPK especially is a tall ask, if the path to victory is "enter one command while they're not paying attention." I get that it might smack a little of meta planning (it does, but it doesn't; throughout history there's tons of examples of battles and wars being won because a strategist banked on catching their enemy with their pants down), but I dunno, it's so easy to avoid being PKed while AFK that I don't really mind it.
@akrios: trying to guilt someone is trying to manipulate them... using guilt to try and change their feelings.... it's the same thing... They are not synonymous but guilt is a tool of manipulation. We might just be arguing semantics here
Can't really do the short thing though... Aya is a gnome xD
@Nipsy: sorry for flipping off the handle termite brain. You know I like you for the most part oocly. What Gal said was true: my problems are not your own. Stress got to me but it was no excuse
I understand this well enough, closing the game, not closing the game, QQ'ing, none of this is relevant. At the end of the day, this is all just words on a screen. Family and Self first.
Next time Nipsy has a curse that teleports and stuns him for 60 seconds (It will happen), you can come be one of the people in the 37 kill, killstreak who killed me.
I really wont mind. I may have lost a level and a half that time, but literally all I do is hunt lately, and I've gained back six levels since then. Loss is negligible.
Edit: And thank you.
Why does this happen all the time!?!?!?!?
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Just overall stop calling people bullies/toxic for engaging with core mechanics of the game.
IRL things -should not- be used as a shield in an IC context. If you are logged in you are part of the IC world.
Everyone complained about lack of conflict and conflict cause was handed to everyone on a silver platter. It is disheartening to see people ooc complaining in other discords about a very much ig really not that big of a deal conflict.
I'm sorry that you had a frustrating day, Ayastia, but this thread needs to return to the main topic now.
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Sorry that we tried to engender a community that actually pats people on the back for trying.
Edit: yes there's a mechanic to erect them now (after mass dusting with the reasoning stated above), but that still doesn't confer PK cause because the people able to do it still aren't His order and the rules are very specific and clear on defilement cause.
Bamathis' order has always had PK because Severn's kind of part of Bamathis' order, they merged orders when Severn took on the role of Spymaster.
If so that seems like an oversight and counter productive to creating story for people to engage in.