Ankyrean Anguish - Aetolia-based RAGE

Daskalos

5. Personal attacks are not allowed.

Debate the post, not the poster. Personal attacks are taken seriously and will be dealt with using whatever action is needed.

Dhar

OK, going to lock this up for a little bit to give you guys some time to chillax.

Haven

I think enough time has passed. Behave please.

Malok

I rage at the fact that I had at one point about 8 boxes of the chocolates, and due to the fact that noone actually wants to TRADE boxes(they obviously need to make a gold profit, when standing afk 90% of the time in their cities) means that I had to eat about 6 boxes of them for the half effect. Ugh. Oh well. At least they were free.

Rivas

Crafters. Always crafters.

 

Mortal crafters make me wanna punch a baby, and wish that after a certain number of rejections (BS or not) they just went straight into a "divine-only" queue so that players don't get to reject them for stupid (and possibly metagamed/biased) reasons anymore.

Illikaal

Can we get a mob killing related event that doesn't light up deathsight for once? Make the mobs super tanky or something, but jesus. I shouldn't have to go to an event and be like "Whelp, here comes 5k damage with a stun/web/pronelock. Woohoo."

Daskalos

If you meant from the Island of Despair raid, the mobs themselves weren't tanky, but they did dish out damage. That being said, until someone set the room ablaze they were immortal. A lot of our deaths came because someone in our group kept flooding or consuming the flame and making the mobs immortal again.

Konnorn

Daskalos said:

If you meant from the Island of Despair raid, the mobs themselves weren't tanky, but they did dish out damage. That being said, until someone set the room ablaze they were immortal. A lot of our deaths came because someone in our group kept flooding or consuming the flame and making the mobs immortal again.

Whoever decided to flood half the temple needs a smackdown. That really ruined things for us.

Azrael

This makes Az rage....he hates Lunare and has no intention on bettering relations with them. Lunare dislikes Bloodloch, Bloodloch dislikes Lunare, it's a mutual relationship filled with hate, disgust and no true love loss. I'm sure that Lunare feels the same way since they always get their newbies to quit the city. Someone msg me the instructions for the cure so Az can go undead and forsake the blood so he doesn't have to listen so intently to Abhorash! hahaha


Sent By: <<CENSORED>> on 3/04/2013/1:55

(Mass: Lyl, Azrael, Dourif, Ellenia, Borscin) Leaders of Bloodloch, it is the will of the Primus, Abhorash, that the House of Lunare and the City of Bloodloch improve their relations with one another. I have been chosen as the Ambassador of House Lunare, and I would like to request an audience with you all in order to discuss the reinstatement of our alliance.

Malok

Good lord, I hate how every single person on HELP BLOODLOCH that can citizen people are sitting afk and not responding. There really should be some deterrent to this sort of behavior.

Azrael

 

Malok said:

Good lord, I hate how every single person on HELP BLOODLOCH that can citizen people are sitting afk and not responding. There really should be some deterrent to this sort of behavior.

and it's not me!!!!

Ezalor

Azrael said:

This makes Az rage....he hates Lunare and has no intention on bettering relations with them. Lunare dislikes Bloodloch, Bloodloch dislikes Lunare, it's a mutual relationship filled with hate, disgust and no true love loss. I'm sure that Lunare feels the same way since they always get their newbies to quit the city. Someone msg me the instructions for the cure so Az can go undead and forsake the blood so he doesn't have to listen so intently to Abhorash! hahaha


Sent By: <<CENSORED>> on 3/04/2013/1:55

(Mass: Lyl, Azrael, Dourif, Ellenia, Borscin) Leaders of Bloodloch, it is the will of the Primus, Abhorash, that the House of Lunare and the City of Bloodloch improve their relations with one another. I have been chosen as the Ambassador of House Lunare, and I would like to request an audience with you all in order to discuss the reinstatement of our alliance.

They were SO loud, insulting, and vehement about their ideals of living loving and all that crap. Sarita in particular took a LOT of flak from that House for attempting to uphold the Legacies during her stint as leader of the Imperium. From what I've heard she's -still- treated with hostility in the Teradrim and other orgs because of it.

Their attitude afterwards is insulting too. I haven't spoken at length with any of them but I get the impression that they feel like they have done nothing wrong, they still maintain this superiority complex while being smacked down and abused by Abhorash. There's no feeling of remorse for their sacrilege, just a quick "okay we listened to Abhorash now give us everything again." Just IMO, and I could be wrong here, but I feel like other problems are going to sprout up fast and heavy with this House in the future and it'll just be the same cycle of bullshit. Their attitude and sense of entitlement haven't changed one bit.

If they are given entry to the Dominion it's not going to be a smooth ride. I don't think Ve'kahi has any problems with them - hell, Erzsebet talked about allying with them against the Imperium and sided with Lunare on the issue of the living - but D'baen and Bahir'an are not going to just open their arms and forget everything with all the mudslinging and insulting that Lunare did while in the Imperium. The constant threats of violence, name calling, and stamping of feet when they didn't get their way aren't going to be wiped away quite that easily. Ezalor has expressed his opinion to Abhorash and others that he would very much like Consanguine unity and that he is willing to welcome that House back in but only if they show that they've changed and deserve it. 

So far all they've done is sour him even more. They did end up dropping the living and all that that they were SO passionate about when given no other choice. All these new Edicts seem directly targeted at the crap they were doing. But even though it's so obvious that they are far out of favour the same arrogance is still fully on display. There have been no signs of remorse or acknowledgement of wrongdoing at all.

Now, full disclaimer, all of the above is just what I see. They may be falling over themselves to apologize to Abhorash and all but no one else has seen a single sign of it. When your House has managed to seriously alienate themselves from and piss off just about everyone they're going to be sharing this new Dominion with, it's probably a good idea to do some relations and damage control rather than continuing to be snarky towards Sarita and displaying the same bull**** attitude from before.

Erzsebet

As an aside, 'kahi wars with Lunare more often than not. The above allying was a political move. Erz hasn't forgotten -anything-, including that the Lunare were behind the stupid bloodhunt nonsense.

On topic: RAGE AT THE FROZEN BUTTERSHIELD. GRAH

Also, rage that apparently a two-room bit of publicly accessible forest in the Morgun for 'kahi will cost 600 credits, which houses have -no- way to acquire. That's just completely ridiculous.

Illikaal

Would be funny if Abhorash destroyed Lunare anyhow even if they were the Tophouse. Then ALL the problems would be solved. 

Edit/Add: I also don't understand how person A can get SO mad at person B just because person B agreed/liked a post that person C liked/agreed with that person A doesn't agree with. OMGAH I HATE PEOPLE FOR AGREEING WITH MY ENEMIES. Jesus people, it's an opinion. You don't have a like it, but it's not worth getting upset at someone else just for agreeing. If that were the case, person A shouldn't be getting along with anyone at all since NOBODY on this big blue earth agrees on 100% of every frickin' thing. Endrage. 

Sarita

No it wouldn't. They might try to go to other houses, and then the problem is suddenly everywhere instead of being mostly limited to one house.

Illikaal

Well that's part of the solution. If Lunare were forced to go to one house where someone with Vampiric common sense reigns supreme, the House Head can be all like: 

Then deal with them accordingly. 

Sarita

That's the thing though. We've seen multiple cases now of them joining orgs in such large numbers that whoever is in charge when they start joining won't necessarily be in charge much longer.

Xavin

What Sarita said. Basically, it's possible for dedicated groups of stupid to gain a hold on organizations and brute force their way to the top. It's not exactly rare from what I hear, though the same tactics can be used to fix orgs. Whether or not it's a legitimate thing to do...well, that's a debate for another thread.

Arbre

We're about to find out the answer to the (keep them all in one place) vs. (blow up the broken orgs) debate when the blow up the Bahkatu.

Fenrir

Erzsebet said:

Also, rage that apparently a two-room bit of publicly accessible forest in the Morgun for 'kahi will cost 600 credits, which houses have -no- way to acquire. That's just completely ridiculous.

I see zero problem with House leaders receiving the 5% credit bonus once the final 4 houses are in place, regardless of whether the vampire who's buying them is also in a guild or not.

If they're putting this much work and effort into improving the houses, they should actually put in some mechanical benefits that can help make them better. This would be one of them.

Alistaire

Fenrir said:

Erzsebet said:

Also, rage that apparently a two-room bit of publicly accessible forest in the Morgun for 'kahi will cost 600 credits, which houses have -no- way to acquire. That's just completely ridiculous.

I see zero problem with House leaders receiving the 5% credit bonus once the final 4 houses are in place, regardless of whether the vampire who's buying them is also in a guild or not.

If they're putting this much work and effort into improving the houses, they should actually put in some mechanical benefits that can help make them better. This would be one of them.

That isn't how GM credits work here either. Guild/City members buying credits earn the Guild/City bankaccount credits, not the GM.

Fenrir

It's still considered up to the GM whether or not they use them for their own benefit or the Guilds. At least, last I heard about it anyway.

Daingean

Fenrir said:

It's still considered up to the GM whether or not they use them for their own benefit or the Guilds. At least, last I heard about it anyway.

That's the party line.

In actuality, if you as a leader take org credits for your own use, the only people who're going to agree with you using them are the other org leaders who've done so or would do so.

Disclaimer: I say this having seen the backlash and back and forth, not because I've ever taken credits for myself from either organization that I run. The closest thing I've done to benefit myself was make the Daru credits available every six months rather than a year.

Xavin

Using them in small ways is acceptable, particularly when it comes to guild projects.

Alistaire

I used to hand out credits to the Atabahi like they were candy. It can be a good way to reward everyone for being active and taking part in guild stuff, or just as a surprise, "I you guys" gift.

I give away credits in the Templar to people who do good but aren't really GFable (Like my Gr.19 peoples), or when someone is close to a goal (almost trans but not quite there). Sometimes even to people who want to get started learning a trade to offer the guild.

Daingean

Alistaire said:

I give away credits in the Templar to people who do good but aren't really GFable (Like my Gr.19 peoples), or when someone is close to a goal (almost trans but not quite there). Sometimes even to people who want to get started learning a trade to offer the guild.

I've done this a few times. I know I found excusesreasons to give credits to Dasha when she was learning useful abilities, and I keep having to fight my urge to give them to one of the more active novices, since I'd rather wait until they finish their last exam.

Arbre

I gave some to one of my guild members so I wouldn't be the only one who could rejuvenate.

Fenrir

I don't see anything wrong with a leader gaining credits for doing a good job. If they're not, contest them. This is coming from someone who's never used Guild credits on themselves. If the rest of the game disagrees with me, that's fine.

It still doesn't change the fact I think it'd be good if Houses were enabled to receive the same 5% as Cities and Guilds. They coujld use them in the same way Alastair and Daingean has mentioned - Using them to help their members, giving them out as rewards for services rendered and using them as incentives to reach certain benchmarks within the organization.

Rivas

That moment when you catch up to the rest of the game and realize that you've gone beyond playing a "grumpy" character, and unknowingly transitioned awhile back into a character that very FEW other characters genuinely like. When being "tolerated" is the best standard or result that you can hope for for your character.

 

Feeling like you can only play Aetolia as a singleplayer game, despite the multitudes of great players on either side.

Phoenecia

I hate this feeling of not knowing what to do in regards to my character. Do you quit an org because they're not meshing well with it ICly even when doing so might screw your org over or do you force yourself to stay because you still kind of enjoy it and don't want to leave the org in a bad place?

Minor rage: the resistance artifacts not being able to be put on anything other than since I don't ever use shields. I miss being tanky. :<