Really Xiuh? How about the fact that with delayed prone, means all I have to do is break -1- leg, to prone them, with that, so I can get rips off easier? I know plenty about Lycan combat, and have competed with it numerous times. As for stating that only one person submitted any useful liaisons for Lycan is a complete insult, since Liaisons are open to -anyone- with the skills, yet you didn't put in -any-.
Personally I'm excited that Ezalor put in the reports for boneshaking and snarling, since their constant turn off/on in battle could easily start over an offense if used, or they'd have to be abandoned if you're too into it to risk it.
Edit: Also appreciation to @Toz for that report as well. Should help make things less wonky for tracking by far.
Hehe! @xiuhcoatl I'm sorry, when I posted that thing about Carnifex, I was baiting you. I didn't think it'd get you frothing as much as it did though. I'm sorry, man.
I don't think anyone disagrees with what you've said and continue to say about Carnifex. And sure, I know you're raging in the rage thread.
Anyway!
@Valdus My opinion is that there is a fundamental flaw in limb combat at the moment, which has nothing to do with the recent slow-down. The flaw was always there, but the masses only began to pre-restore and parry with the efficiency we see today, in relatively recent times.
Each of the classes have been given ways to deal with these things, but lycan's method is to repurpose original abilities (rend/hamstring) from their original intended use, which was fast mending attacks used while the target was off-salve-balance, to set up mangles and punish them for prerestoring.
Claw and later flurry were intended for setting up limb damage, but now they are useless and the lycan is reduced to spamming hamstring/mend and waiting for the really slow resto break to occur.
In functional terms, this is like a knight using fast/light swords to get limb breaks rather than flails and warhammers.
I wish I had spent some time doing some reports up for the lycan class, but this new liaison system is actually new to me, and I'm still relearning Aetolia, so I didn't feel qualified to make the reports. I assumed the class liaison team would do a good job of it - and maybe they did. Maybe the new changes will be enough, but I look at them and wish I'd tried to do something to bring back clawing.
They are still hidden after all. Paralysis, stupidity, anorexia are all very readily unmasked. Blurry vision actually allows you to make them miss an attack before they realize it, especially with the ability to change howls coming up. This is also why hallucination is a decent howl, they have no way of unmasking it until it actually procs. Disrupt is a very good hinder.
Para/Stupidity/Anorexia do more than just chew a salve balance. Until the anorexia is cured, they are paralysed and cannot tree, parry, shield or attack.
Stupidity chews the focus, which means anorexia must be salve cured, but if they have no salve balance then they are disabled until they get it back.
I used to time my resto breaks to be just before a howl tick, which guaranteed the subsequent destroy (because they would still be paralysed and unable to parry the limb last broken).
Much harder to time breaks like that now that rend/hamstring is used though, so you may be right about blurry vision.
Call to Arms over OT: Let's raid Ciem! Person to mob talk about raiding Ciem! Nobody is showing up, use the restroom because wtf if I'm gonna solo this unicorn I'mma do it without needing to pee Yaotl killed me while I was in the bathroom WTFFFFFFFUNICORN ?????????????? I'mma RP Yaotl is a bad guy who wants to stop Ciem from actually being raided
And I'm sorry about queening over here, but things keep effing breaking when I want to do them and it make me want to unicornsing quit
No @Amberlea, we can't do Ciem effectively anymore because of the Monument of Chakrasul in Ciem right now. Since it randomly makes the mobs Aggro, our own mobs turn against us making it nearly impossible to do it. Yaotl attacked you because of the Monument.
Still possible, just dont linger too much, Yaotl has seen the spiral, and he dun like it.
No @Amberlea, we can't do Ciem effectively anymore because of the Monument of Chakrasul in Ciem right now. Since it randomly makes the mobs Aggro, our own mobs turn against us making it nearly impossible to do it. Yaotl attacked you because of the Monument.
Still possible, just dont linger too much, Yaotl has seen the spiral, and he dun like it.
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! So that's why... okay. Gotcha. *prepares a new wall-o-text shout for Chakrasul too*
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No @Amberlea, we can't do Ciem effectively anymore because of the Monument of Chakrasul in Ciem right now. Since it randomly makes the mobs Aggro, our own mobs turn against us making it nearly impossible to do it. Yaotl attacked you because of the Monument.
Still possible, just dont linger too much, Yaotl has seen the spiral, and he dun like it.
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! So that's why... okay. Gotcha. *prepares a new wall-o-text shout for Chakrasul too*
Don't complain about Carnifex class in this thread anymore. Make a new thread entirely about it if you'd like, that's cool as long as it stays appropriate, but let's move on here.
I rage at some of the whining I've heard about BL bringing 40 people to lessers. You're right. We bring that many because the 3 people on the lifer side that go to lessers are scary. Totally has nothing to do with things that are out of our control, like more people wanting to play this side and everyone wanting to play the damn game and participate in lessers.
"You ever been divided by zero?" Nia asks you with a squint.
I'd go to lessers if I ever knew they were happening. Dion has been pretty silent where that is concerned and I have been getting the feeling that people just aren't into it at the moment.
Normally I'd say this sort of thing would stabilize over time. Some players like to fight on the losing side for the challenge, assuming it isn't toooooo far gone. I know when I was thinking about my move from spines to duiran and someone mentioned that I would be joining the losing side it definitely didn't hurt Duiran. Me showing up would mean something, as opposed to being just an extra meat shield, which is what I felt like on shadow side. Lucky for me I could move anywhere and keep my class. Others may wish to move but can't because of mechanics or RP.
Dion is Duiran-only isn't it? Probably better to coordinate on a clan that has Enorian in it too especially considering most of the active lifer combatants these days are in Enorian.
Dion is Duiran-only isn't it? Probably better to coordinate on a clan that has Enorian in it too especially considering most of the active lifer combatants these days are in Enorian.
Yes, Dion is Duiran-only. There's the frontline clan, though, which is owned by Enorian and inclusive of Duiran people.
Most of the time I went for participation rewards, like city favours. Has nothing to do with making it an unfair fight on the other guys. Sometimes I don't go regardless of rewards when I know someone doesn't need help because it will just be boring as one sided conflicts generally are. The moment you guys start rocking up though, we're going to want to rock up to get involved and we just have more people to get involved.
It's the same thing things were a couple years back, when everyone migrated to Duiran.
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There are a few people who used to comprise the core of Duiran's 'every single damn layline' population who just aren't playing right now. We're all playing LoL and DDO and SW:TOR (or maybe I'm the only one on that last tip. I have a spaceship! Zoom-zoom!)
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Personally I'm excited that Ezalor put in the reports for boneshaking and snarling, since their constant turn off/on in battle could easily start over an offense if used, or they'd have to be abandoned if you're too into it to risk it.
Edit: Also appreciation to @Toz for that report as well. Should help make things less wonky for tracking by far.
@xiuhcoatl
I'm sorry, when I posted that thing about Carnifex, I was baiting you. I didn't think it'd get you frothing as much as it did though. I'm sorry, man.
I don't think anyone disagrees with what you've said and continue to say about Carnifex. And sure, I know you're raging in the rage thread.
Anyway!
@Valdus
My opinion is that there is a fundamental flaw in limb combat at the moment, which has nothing to do with the recent slow-down. The flaw was always there, but the masses only began to pre-restore and parry with the efficiency we see today, in relatively recent times.
Each of the classes have been given ways to deal with these things, but lycan's method is to repurpose original abilities (rend/hamstring) from their original intended use, which was fast mending attacks used while the target was off-salve-balance, to set up mangles and punish them for prerestoring.
Claw and later flurry were intended for setting up limb damage, but now they are useless and the lycan is reduced to spamming hamstring/mend and waiting for the really slow resto break to occur.
In functional terms, this is like a knight using fast/light swords to get limb breaks rather than flails and warhammers.
I wish I had spent some time doing some reports up for the lycan class, but this new liaison system is actually new to me, and I'm still relearning Aetolia, so I didn't feel qualified to make the reports. I assumed the class liaison team would do a good job of it - and maybe they did. Maybe the new changes will be enough, but I look at them and wish I'd tried to do something to bring back clawing.
We'll see, anyway.
Until the anorexia is cured, they are paralysed and cannot tree, parry, shield or attack.
Stupidity chews the focus, which means anorexia must be salve cured, but if they have no salve balance then they are disabled until they get it back.
I used to time my resto breaks to be just before a howl tick, which guaranteed the subsequent destroy (because they would still be paralysed and unable to parry the limb last broken).
Much harder to time breaks like that now that rend/hamstring is used though, so you may be right about blurry vision.
Person to mob talk about raiding Ciem!
Nobody is showing up, use the restroom because wtf if I'm gonna solo this unicorn I'mma do it without needing to pee
Yaotl killed me while I was in the bathroom WTFFFFFFFUNICORN
??????????????
I'mma RP Yaotl is a bad guy who wants to stop Ciem from actually being raided
And I'm sorry about queening over here, but things keep effing breaking when I want to do them and it make me want to unicornsing quit
Rawr
the way she tells me I'm hers and she is mine
open hand or closed fist would be fine
blood as rare and sweet as cherry wine
Rawr
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the way she tells me I'm hers and she is mine
open hand or closed fist would be fine
blood as rare and sweet as cherry wine