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> 1.) He was online today, helping with the very event you are complaining about
> 2.) He said it was worthy of ridicule. He didn't actually ridicule her opinion.
Go back up and read. I explained the issue and retracted my complaints. I also said, yes, he was on today.
I am also completely in agreement with your last statement. This is a game, noone is obliged to stay logged in for 13-16 hours a day like some of us do. I am not mad about the outcome of the event, I'm not even mad about how it's going to affect our wedding event tomorrow. What I am annoyed about is this general mentality people have on this game of 'Oh man, this person is so wrong, their opinion is so bad, I'm gonna go ridicule them and dogpile them with 8 of my other friends for it'. It's gross and dumb and childish, and shows the absolute lack of moderation on these forums.
Same people complaining about 'tribalism' are the ones acting with their 8 friends to dogpile someone on an internet forum and say how their posts are worthy of ridicule.
You love to see it. Keep on being classy, Aetolia forums. I'm sure you'll get more than 10-15 regular users again out of the 100+ people logged into the game again some day.
I don't know how y'all do it honestly. We had a great morale boost today, we accomplished what we wanted to accomplish and we're all enjoying NOT fighting right now.
Celebrating the victories is far more satisfying than trying to win the game.
EDIT: PET PEEVE BY THE WAY CAUSE I AM IN THE MIDDLE.
I'm going to take the wins as they come, take it easy, and use the losses as a chance to teach the surge of people who came with us today (24 BLOODLOCHIANS, can you imagine?!) how to be more synergized so I can keep them excited enough to participate where they can, even despite the x2 deathgem explosion.
To encourage the growth of people interested in the PK scene, there always needs to be a give and take.
I know the feeling of being in a reactive event sucks though, but it's only the first day and the event won't last forever.
The eternal catch 22 that is being in shadow. Damned if we do. Damned if we don't.
There is zero sportsmanship about any of the PK events outside of Sect. My experience in just about every event has been not syncing up time wise with the rest of shadow, and when I'm ready to go, they're taking breaks cus it is exhausting going up against superior numbers. A lot of time I just fly in solo, trying to catch like one person alone which is lucky to happen but will be short lived because easily 3+ people will show up instantly. What that curates is an ambivalence from me for spirit characters coming to contest or thwart the attempts. It feels like if we have the numbers advantage and the momentum we cannot give a single inch because the competition with Spirit is just that close. Spirit is doing competitively well and it's been shown time and again there will be no holding back to even the playing field for a weaker side. This eliminates any kind of sportsmanship in these competitions which, honestly, maybe is fine. I'm willing to accept that wanting to keep it 'fun' by evening the odds when you're in a position to do it isn't realistic or really even the point of the roles we're playing in this game.
Whatever the case it's all exhausting. Losing to Spirit is exhausting. Winning against Spirit is exhausting. Complaints happen regardless.
EDIT: If Shadow had taken an L tonight, I doubt there'd be any posts in these forums about how things were unfair. Like how overnight we learned that stationed troops meant we couldn't engage with the mechanics or the fact that some spirit characters seemed to react quickly, prior to any public posts made in the news, and seemed to just *know* bad things were afoot from Bloodloch. Nobody complained about these things. We just accepted and adapted and tried and assumed we were not going to be able to engage in the mechanic because we would not be able to get our shit together enough to offer a fight.
What's cool about all of this is that it's been entirely organic and unexpected. The nuances and details of everything leading up to a single win in a night has been the culmination of tons of character driven RP and initiative. It's shaped into a good story. Apologies to anyone reading this and flowing with my stream of thoughts here, but I'm realizing now my true pet peeve is that all the complaints and attitude about an event completely undermine and disregard the story being told. It's a story. I wish people would remember that this is a story and bad things need to happen in order for stories to be good. Bloodloch potentially being successful here is going to make a point in which ENorian is successful that much more meaningful and the world that much more interesting. Respect the stories. Appreciate the fact that there are bad things happening so good guy characters can be good. Don't cry on the forums.
My personal pet peeve, forgetting commands after having been away from the game for a while. I couldn't remember how to get to an island! I tried "buy ticket to" and nothing happened! And then it took me a few moments to remember I could check ferry departures to figure it out. It's like I have to re-learn the game for the first time in 15 years.
Experience Gained: 47720 (Special) [total: 2933660]
Needed for LVL: 122.00775356245
Pet Peeve: I can't war until Monday!
How about we have one person play two city leaders in a war and metagame the information between characters during a confli..... oh wait.
(Not everything needs to be a big ordeal to bitch about, sometimes you just should play the game and not the forums)
(EDIT: If Bloodloch complained about every L that Bloodloch has taken in recent months, we would need a Bloodloch complaining about Spirit thread and not a Peeves thread.)
(THAT WAS NOT A SUGGESTION, I EXPECT BETTER OF MY FELLOW SHADOW FOLK)
A SECOND EDIT *gasp* - We missed you Squidbro
1.) Summoning people those are not participating in a pk event from irrelevant areas and then killing them in the pk zone because they were forced into aura. (This was at a lesser, so not related to the event pk at all.) I am talking about people who weren't even close to the aura, not even like within 5-6 area range of it. That is just poor form. I thought it was established that being in a pk zone is consent to participate.
2.) Using a customized god curse as a get-away-from-jail card during combat.
I am using the word use here, but 1st one can just be bad sportsmanship sure, 2nd one is honestly just an abuse. And while I do not believe either should have happened, you should be reasonable enough to not attempt a clear abuse to begin with. It's not funny, it's not smart and it's not fair.
But as to 2), if you truly believe it was "abuse", and you are not just being a bad sport yourself, I would issue. Getting on the forums and making claims of abuse is bad form. That is a very strong word and claiming it without admin confirmation or input seems rude. To me 2) specifically sounds like a character turning a god cursing them into a win. Which I think is a cool story beat and is both fun and clever. What better way to stick it to a god that cursed you? Turn their curse into a boon. This sounds super similar to a very toxic sentiment echo'ed on the forums earlier of "wishing they would rp being losers."
onto my pet peeve: Stuff always happens when I am irl busy.
**fair conditions in this context. The mechanics are 100% above board here.
I personally know a lot of stuff that can be categorized as "fun" and "clever" those are borderline abuseable that currently exist in Aetolia, but instead of using them, I report them. I encourage others to do the same. Once you start blurring the line of unfair advantages you can get through loopholes that exist there will be no end to what you invite into the game. I am not saying just avoiding one death was that big of a deal here.
But this is something that should be categorically opposed by the players for the reasons I elaborated above, not a matter to argue against for the sake of sticking up with your friends.
1. click on this
2. now the post is quoted in your post
3. navigate to the very end (after the < /blockquote >) and start typing
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Most importantly, however, I think it's worth pointing out that I don't think this was an event that was meant to have a counterplay, at least not this quickly. While the current counterplay seems hasty, maybe, it does seem like one of the fairer ways to impliment some sort of counter to the current drive. All of that said, a lot of this event was admin building mechanics based on player involvement, input, and planning. I think a lot of the energy spent typing in here would be better spent in-game, working with gods and celani.
I don't think there's any real point to complaining OOC about being forced into a reactive role--there's plenty of stuff that can be done, today, right now. Instead of waiting for an admin to mpos an NPC and give you marching orders, you can make news posts (I can't emphasize this enough, I've gotten a ton of organic ADMIN RP just from making news posts), talk in CT, message things, write in logs. Make plans, publicly and loudly. Someone will pick up those threads. The thing I think that's being missed here is that moving from reacitve to proactive is solved...entirely by being proactive. Go. Do. Go be proactive. That's literally the solution here. Solve it. Like, today. Here, have a list of Proactive Good Guy Plans for free, off the top of my head:
- Hatch a plan to extend daylight hours to make life more miserable for Vampires
- Find a way to induce some sort of poison into the food/water supply of living settlements that's utterly harmless to mortals, but will cause massive terrible symptoms to vampires if they feed from people who have been afflicted
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- Blow up Bloodloch (please).
- Bully Spinesreach (always hilarious)
- Try to seal off the Shadow Plane so it causes the sciomancers problems
- Plan a heist of the Archivist's Vault that's definitely full of real stuff I promise you guys
Go live your best lives!Have an event with totally lopsided mechanics that allows an entire tether to gang up on ~10 people tops, mostly like 4-5 honestly, ensuring a victory and allowing you carte blanche to completely eradicate a territory of Bloodloch's with effectively no resistence or counterplaySorry, forgot about the Spears event, my bad> I believe this is in reference to the numerology(at least I think it's numerology) skill that swaps you with any random person anywhere on the continent that is outdoors and not on a monolith. He was on clouds when he got pulled into a lesser by it and killed. So not intentional, since it's impossible to target anyone with it, but I can understand the frustration/annoyance about being dragged across the continent into aura by someone else and being killed for it. So completely unrelated to any of the current war/event stuff, to answer the question.
Not going to lie, that is kinda funny. But I could see it being frustrating.
Edit: As I said earlier, yes, we should probably try and force this kind of scenario, so in that, we can agree. I just hope that, when that time comes, something actually comes of it rather than us just, using previous example, us just bash Mor and emote at each other and then everything repops, rinse, repeat.