What would you like to see in GMCP?

Lim

@Oleis‌

Right now gmcp.Chars.Vitals.balance and equilibrium do not update when blacked out. This shouldn't be the case, because we do get the recovered balance/equilibrium messages. Thanks!

Nalor

Lim said:

@Oleis‌

Right now gmcp.Chars.Vitals.balance and equilibrium do not update when blacked out. This shouldn't be the case, because we do get the recovered balance/equilibrium messages. Thanks!

Think Lim meant for ALL balances to show on gmcp, eg eating, focus etc etc somehow its all gaged from gmcp while in blackout or blackout is blocking the update gmcp being sent ..

Lim

Yeah, there are probably others that shouldn't be gagged. Balance and eq are only the ones I tested and know for sure. If they appear visible to us even when blackout is in progress, then gmcp should be updating. Right now, they're not. 

Ashmer

Is there any way we could get a table for racial skills in the GMCP skills table?

Nalor

@Oleis can we get PACKS added in the gmcp.comm ? at moment its not

Eugenides

Emotes and I'll love you forever. I've a chat capture window. It catches Emotes based on color, but emotes starting with speech don't get sent, and I catch the rare random junk. For the most part not that big a deal, but if it get's running right, I'll add the code to Scripts thread for cmud and mudbot.

Haven

Is there a gmcp.Char.death event or something? >_> And if not, can there be?

Gwenith

can murmurs be picked up in GMCP?

Nalor

@Oleis is this topic still going?

Moirean

Entourage would be very helpful,both for loyals and for people.

Sarkis

Where can I learn what GMCP even is?

Killien

GMCP (General MUD Communication Protocol) is a method for the game to communicate with a client (as is suggested by the name). Basically, the client sends packets of specific data to the game, and the game responds with specific packets of data and data subsets. The specific types of data subsets available, the requirements to view them, and how the client and the game communicate for IRE can be viewed here with a bit more about how the specific communication happens here.

I'm sure someone else has a more eloquent explanation, but that's the gist of it. Most modern clients (Cmud, Mudlet, Mush) allow you to store the data subsets in variables, either client generated or made by you. Even more, Mudlet allows you to trigger of GMCP events (such as gmcp.Char.Vitals) so that when the game sends a new value to the client, it can run a script. Cmud allows you to store the variables through its settings, and then trigger off them.

So! GMCP, really, is versatile and allows for a HUGE amount of information to be parsed without requiring any specific triggers, aliases, or the such. GMCP, really, is what allows so many clients and systems to run as lightning fast as they do.

Edit - Forgot to mention: GMCP is not Unique to IRE. Many, if not most, MUDs nowadays use it as the data subsets can be defined by the MUD, rather than being pre-defined like with MXP.

Moirean

Day/night
Time of day (dusk, dawn, etc)
IG day, month, year
Info that's displayed in CURRENCY

Draiman

Add something in gmcp.Char.Status that declares whether you are dead or not. For undead and Living this is pretty easy, if hp == 0 then you dead. For vampires, we don't hit 0 hp, and when we earthmeld/diffuse we start regening hit points even though we're dead, so we can't track it like that. Triggers are susceptible to illusions and illusions like that are pretty effing lame, but people will still do it.

Haven

For the mean time, using a trigger just have it evaluate health.

You have been slain by x.
You are dead and cannot do that.

If HP <= 1 and undead then aff_death
else if HP <= 0 then aff_death end.


But yeah, I agree. A gmcp for death would be great. 

Edit: Vampires drop to 1 HP on death right? Been a while since I played one.

Moirean

And what about if they are a Cabalist with link?

Draiman

Draiman said:

and when we earthmeld/diffuse we start regening hit points even though we're dead, so we can't track it like that. .

Sakyl

how about decay rates? I wouldn't mind being able to set up some sort of trigger that lets me know if my gauntlet, or my clothes or something is about to decay based on a scan that occurs twice, once upon login, and once upon the 1st of each IG month, without having to spam my screen.

Nalor

@Keroc @Oleis

Is this topic still active for us to post our GMCP requests in? Or should we wait for the next liaison round. As over past few day's I've thought of around 4/5.

Zsadist

I'd like to see the IG date implemented into gmcp.

Keroc

Nalor said:

@Keroc @Oleis

Is this topic still active for us to post our GMCP requests in? Or should we wait for the next liaison round. As over past few day's I've thought of around 4/5.

If you want to throw your ideas into the ring, please do! No guarantee that it'll happen though.

Nalor

@keroc I was thinking since gmcp.Room.Info.detail is now showing indoors/outdoors and it's made into a table.

Can it also show things like if a room is flooded/watery, Sand flood, overgrowth etc? So can easier code for Teradrim, Croc shapeshifter and shaman skills (can't remember off top of my head but them 3 stand out)

Keroc

Nalor said:

@keroc I was thinking since gmcp.Room.Info.detail is now showing indoors/outdoors and it's made into a table.

Can it also show things like if a room is flooded/watery, Sand flood, overgrowth etc? So can easier code for Teradrim, Croc shapeshifter and shaman skills (can't remember off top of my head but them 3 stand out)

I've added these.

Nalor

oh awesome thanks @Keroc I'll post the others when I next login as need to double check the gmcp stuff

Nalor

Can we get angel health (angel touch) and our own soul (soul gaze) into gmcp? I know we get our own soul in gmcp but not the one to use skills like essence.

Trager

I'd like to know just to what extend we should be relying on GMCP? It seems that with each new gmcp addition, it definitely just leans towards more and more automation than anything else, and effectively lowers any human interaction. IE, indoors/outdoors, where there was a very real 'oh shit' factor if you got caught indoors, and had to figure out another escape plan when you realized leap wasn't happening. Now, it seems I can just code that in automatically.

TLDR; Where's the absolute limit of what gmcp should provide the average player in regards to information retrievable from the game. Is there an end-state? Is there a 'only quality of life stuff' limit? It seems a little mind-blowing to continue to add numbers you can pull at any time, just from using a single skill?

Keroc

I'm only putting in the very basics, the kind of stuff I personally wouldn't want to deal with if I wanted to code myself a system. If I feel it asks too much in the way of automation, I probably won't do it.

Indoors/outdoors probably isn't a good example, as it's not as if leap has a failure cost when you attempt to use it indoors. You still have to figure out how you're going to escape however, which is where human interaction becomes a requirement.

Trigru

Trager said:

I'd like to know just to what extend we should be relying on GMCP? It seems that with each new gmcp addition, it definitely just leans towards more and more automation than anything else, and effectively lowers any human interaction. IE, indoors/outdoors, where there was a very real 'oh shit' factor if you got caught indoors, and had to figure out another escape plan when you realized leap wasn't happening. Now, it seems I can just code that in automatically.

This has been possible since the days we were all using old pirated versions of Zmud. It's just being made more user-friendly.

Nalor

It's why I mentioned the soul gazed to defup like you can with essence/devotion etc as the only soul you seem to get is the one which is drained from you by someone attacking you..

Which personally I'd prefer to track then have it in gmcp/prompt, the one needed for skills/defup is more important.

Nalor

This is totally random but thought to ask,

Can we get like a

gmcp.Char.Tattoos = {head = "moss", torso = "boar", rightarm = "cloak" } etc?

To kepe track of what tattoos we currently have on us