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I just came here to say that Meltas was clearly ahead of his time.
Sibatti
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Re: Bard Class Preview
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Ictinus
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Re: Mildly Irritating: Aetolia's Pet Peeves
For the record, the only attack on diversity I've seen that involved Wjoltyr was when he was asking us in the official Discord not to use the word "gay", as it was a slur.
Multiple gay people asked him what the hell he was talking about.
Multiple gay people asked him what the hell he was talking about.
Lin
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Re: Mildly Irritating: Aetolia's Pet Peeves
Against my better judgment, I'm going to respond to Nipsy. Please forgive any jacked-up forum formatting weirdness.
> @Nipsy said:
> IC/OOC seperation is a HUGE issue in some players and perhaps in this community as a whole, it is something that has demotivated me at times, and nearly force me to quit playing, if it wasn't for the good people out there being thoughtful and talking me down. With the amount of bandwagoning and just... lacking RP for stuff that could have very well been handled in game, its astounding. I have dealt with this recently, and some very good players, even some of them having been people I have disagreed with in the past, have looked beyond the past, have talked to me politely OOC, and been civil adults about things, which I have appreciated, it is the mature and responsible thing to do.
>
> Being a character which often toes the line against the sensitivities of others, it is my responsibility as a player to be receptive to output provided, to be mature, and to consider how to better myself as a player. I always will welcome feedback maturely, I recently did so because I thought I might have been a source of upset folks, and was reassured that there are much larger over-arching issues, and that in the least my willingness to discuss was appreciated.
>
> Some folks, just cant grasp that though, some folks treat the forums/discord, and the ignore function as a tool to just be assholes, instead of have IC interaction. Then bring problems to the forums to forum RP or discord to talk about players behind the characters.
>
> Now I will preface this that on other characters, I have done things I am not proud of, said things that I am not proud of, and even furthermore, the root of this all, I have learned from my mistakes for ways I have interacted.
>
> But a lot of folks, don't, and frankly it is sad. If you choose to ignore someone or refuse IC interaction, you don't get to be on the OOC shit-slinging parade as well.
>
> tl;dr Don't be a Karen
I try and make it a point to get both sides of the story before offering feedback/judgment/whatever because to truly understand something you need to have all sides of the story. When Nipsy stated he did not have interest in discussing IC things OOCly, I believe I respected that boundary in my subsequent message to him. Whether it was appropriate to message him in the first place is an entirely different question. I do not feel that I am wrong in my assumption that it was appropriate given that *he stated in a public forum* that he was allegedly open to OOC feedback on his character. Again, I feel like I respected his stated boundaries while attempting to engage in good faith dialogue. In hindsight, it was foolish to think that. It's equally foolish to think that my own boundaries would be respected or considered when they never have been in the past.
I also can't help but feel that Nipsy's above-quoted post just oozes with hypocrisy. Why not just jump straight to the "OOC shit-slinging parade" when you refuse interaction you invited? Why not contribute to the bandwagoning? It's the same group of people doing the same things without consequences and I feel that all avenues for recourse have been exhausted and I'm tired of it. If you are open to mature feedback, there you have it.
It's fine, though. Rather, it isn't fine, but it doesn't matter. I'm done. This was the final straw in a series of issues that have slowly been simmering for months and abruptly exploded violently over the course of a few days. I do not feel that Aetolia is a space welcoming of the diversity I represent, and I'd honestly rather go volunteer my time and money within my local community instead of spending either here for now.
With that, I reject the notion that the blame here lies entirely with me. I also won't pretend to be blameless in this situation, either. So:
Nipsy, I am sorry if you felt my approach was inappropriate and violated your boundaries, and I'm sorry if you felt your only recourse was to jump straight to the forums and 'name names'. Truly, know that I wish I had communicated my intentions better as well as understood your expectations better so this could have gone much differently and lead to a more positive gaming experience for everyone.
Be awesome to one another. Peace, love, joy, and...
https://tenor.com/view/boyle-charles-brooklyn99-buckets-yippy-gif-16569891
Wjoltyr out.
> @Nipsy said:
> IC/OOC seperation is a HUGE issue in some players and perhaps in this community as a whole, it is something that has demotivated me at times, and nearly force me to quit playing, if it wasn't for the good people out there being thoughtful and talking me down. With the amount of bandwagoning and just... lacking RP for stuff that could have very well been handled in game, its astounding. I have dealt with this recently, and some very good players, even some of them having been people I have disagreed with in the past, have looked beyond the past, have talked to me politely OOC, and been civil adults about things, which I have appreciated, it is the mature and responsible thing to do.
>
> Being a character which often toes the line against the sensitivities of others, it is my responsibility as a player to be receptive to output provided, to be mature, and to consider how to better myself as a player. I always will welcome feedback maturely, I recently did so because I thought I might have been a source of upset folks, and was reassured that there are much larger over-arching issues, and that in the least my willingness to discuss was appreciated.
>
> Some folks, just cant grasp that though, some folks treat the forums/discord, and the ignore function as a tool to just be assholes, instead of have IC interaction. Then bring problems to the forums to forum RP or discord to talk about players behind the characters.
>
> Now I will preface this that on other characters, I have done things I am not proud of, said things that I am not proud of, and even furthermore, the root of this all, I have learned from my mistakes for ways I have interacted.
>
> But a lot of folks, don't, and frankly it is sad. If you choose to ignore someone or refuse IC interaction, you don't get to be on the OOC shit-slinging parade as well.
>
> tl;dr Don't be a Karen
I try and make it a point to get both sides of the story before offering feedback/judgment/whatever because to truly understand something you need to have all sides of the story. When Nipsy stated he did not have interest in discussing IC things OOCly, I believe I respected that boundary in my subsequent message to him. Whether it was appropriate to message him in the first place is an entirely different question. I do not feel that I am wrong in my assumption that it was appropriate given that *he stated in a public forum* that he was allegedly open to OOC feedback on his character. Again, I feel like I respected his stated boundaries while attempting to engage in good faith dialogue. In hindsight, it was foolish to think that. It's equally foolish to think that my own boundaries would be respected or considered when they never have been in the past.
I also can't help but feel that Nipsy's above-quoted post just oozes with hypocrisy. Why not just jump straight to the "OOC shit-slinging parade" when you refuse interaction you invited? Why not contribute to the bandwagoning? It's the same group of people doing the same things without consequences and I feel that all avenues for recourse have been exhausted and I'm tired of it. If you are open to mature feedback, there you have it.
It's fine, though. Rather, it isn't fine, but it doesn't matter. I'm done. This was the final straw in a series of issues that have slowly been simmering for months and abruptly exploded violently over the course of a few days. I do not feel that Aetolia is a space welcoming of the diversity I represent, and I'd honestly rather go volunteer my time and money within my local community instead of spending either here for now.
With that, I reject the notion that the blame here lies entirely with me. I also won't pretend to be blameless in this situation, either. So:
Nipsy, I am sorry if you felt my approach was inappropriate and violated your boundaries, and I'm sorry if you felt your only recourse was to jump straight to the forums and 'name names'. Truly, know that I wish I had communicated my intentions better as well as understood your expectations better so this could have gone much differently and lead to a more positive gaming experience for everyone.
Be awesome to one another. Peace, love, joy, and...
https://tenor.com/view/boyle-charles-brooklyn99-buckets-yippy-gif-16569891
Wjoltyr out.
Wjoltyr
2
Re: Mildly Irritating: Aetolia's Pet Peeves
I'll be honest, my post and this one were both originally bait, but it's becoming increasingly clear that there is 0 awareness going on.
I would appreciate it if some people from spirit could take a few moments and reflect on their actions, their arguments, their reasons, and excuses over the past few days (months?) and genuinely consider what it is that is making you all so upset about conflict in Aetolia.
Your discords and webs are about as private as ours. Your public face is not lining up with the ones you wear when you're free to be however you want to be.
It feels as if the only way you can all be happy is if Shadow gives up and quits the game. We can't even lose and admit defeat right without you all complaining about how we didn't do it exactly how you wanted.
I would appreciate it if some people from spirit could take a few moments and reflect on their actions, their arguments, their reasons, and excuses over the past few days (months?) and genuinely consider what it is that is making you all so upset about conflict in Aetolia.
Your discords and webs are about as private as ours. Your public face is not lining up with the ones you wear when you're free to be however you want to be.
It feels as if the only way you can all be happy is if Shadow gives up and quits the game. We can't even lose and admit defeat right without you all complaining about how we didn't do it exactly how you wanted.
Bulrok
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