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Re: Mildly Irritating: Aetolia's Pet Peeves
I said what I had to say. I'm not trying to convict anyone of anything. Make the mistake of thinking I'm stupid if you want. It doesn't matter to me anymore.
Araseth
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Re: Mildly Irritating: Aetolia's Pet Peeves
Draw your own conclusions. I know for a fact that every single player in this game is highly intelligent. Off the charts. No stupid here at all. And knowing how intelligent people act, and what they do, I find certain recent events highly suspect. I am inferring nothing. Draw your on conclusions. People know what they do, and I sincerely hope no one is lying to themselves to that degree, because that would be an even greater tragedy among such an incredibly talented group of people. It is what it is.
Araseth
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Re: Mildly Irritating: Aetolia's Pet Peeves
I have been told by MULTIPLE people, including those who had recently come from Spirit, "Don't trust Shadow web." and "Don't say anything in Shadow web you don't want Spirit to know about immediately." That is ridiculou. But it's been proven true time and time again, and I'm sick of it. But I've only been around less than 2 years, I suppose everyone is happy with the situation as is and I'm the lone outlying voice railing against the inevitable. So I'll shut about it, I've said what I wanted to say. Nothing's going to change. I'm not ok with it, but I've donw what I can within the boundaries of the rules. I'll get over it. It doesn't matter. Have fun out there.
Thus endeth the sermon.
Thus endeth the sermon.
Araseth
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Re: Mildly Irritating: Aetolia's Pet Peeves
I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about having a direct feed of the web we use for combat, and the strategies we're using. If Shadow tether knows within seconds what Spirit is saying on Side Line, I know nothing of it. But I know for a fact that everything we say in our web is almost immediately sent to Spirit, because I"ve seen reactions to things I've said in web by Spirit players minutes later, and they were most certainly not in our web at the time I said it.
Araseth
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Re: Mildly Irritating: Aetolia's Pet Peeves
Q: Are there other types of OOC behavior I should know about?
A: Allowing information that your character would not reasonably know to
affect their actions; referred to as 'metagaming', is another type of OOC
behavior to avoid. In example, if another player told you in a chat window
about something a mutual friend did, and in turn, your character approached
the friend and asked about it, this is an instance of metagaming. While this
example is benign, the affects of metagaming can and often do escalate to
staggering lengths. While metagaming is hard to police and not as obvious as other OOC actions, we depend upon
players themselves to be careful about separating OOC knowledge from character's knowledge. That said, help scrolls
and honors are considered general knowledge.
Under help OOC.
I guess that's not a rule. I misread it. So, I apologize for implying rules were being broken. No, just a bunch of players who feel they can't succeed without an unfair advantage. All is right and well in the world, ain't nothing changed, carry on.
A: Allowing information that your character would not reasonably know to
affect their actions; referred to as 'metagaming', is another type of OOC
behavior to avoid. In example, if another player told you in a chat window
about something a mutual friend did, and in turn, your character approached
the friend and asked about it, this is an instance of metagaming. While this
example is benign, the affects of metagaming can and often do escalate to
staggering lengths. While metagaming is hard to police and not as obvious as other OOC actions, we depend upon
players themselves to be careful about separating OOC knowledge from character's knowledge. That said, help scrolls
and honors are considered general knowledge.
Under help OOC.
I guess that's not a rule. I misread it. So, I apologize for implying rules were being broken. No, just a bunch of players who feel they can't succeed without an unfair advantage. All is right and well in the world, ain't nothing changed, carry on.
Araseth
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Re: Mildly Irritating: Aetolia's Pet Peeves
Fine, then we should just get rid of the rule. Why do we have it? It's pointless, it's rarely enforced, it does nothing.
Araseth
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Re: Mildly Irritating: Aetolia's Pet Peeves
That doesn't make it right. Both sides should stop. It's unnecessary. Either that, or acknowledge the open secret and abolish the rule so everyone can just go ham on it. But, as in life, I am not truly surprised the rules only apply to a select few. Thus is the way of the world, and we are all worse off for it. Doesn't mean I have to like it, and doesn't mean I'm not going to fight against what I see as unfair.
But what do I know I'm just some n00b. Have fun out there.
But what do I know I'm just some n00b. Have fun out there.
Araseth
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Re: Mildly Irritating: Aetolia's Pet Peeves
More than mildly irritating, the metagaming. Especially when 9 times out of 10 you have superior numbers. I'm done for the day, see you all tonight. Have a good one.
Araseth
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Re: Sciomancer Changelog
This is the problem I see with nerfs. Before the nerfs, as a syssin, I never felt scio was unbeatable, simply very difficult to fight, compared to say, Teradrim, which I find fighting in any room with sand in it tantamount to suicide. After? Well, every competent scio wouldn't be speaking up if everything was honky-dory.
Araseth
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Re: Sciomancer Changelog
While I said I would never make a post on anything Aetolia related again, I just want to say that while the first round of Sciomancer changes were entirely justified (aside from one with Attunement because it has no synergy with the Sciomancer offense whatsoever), these changes are horrendous for a variety of reasons and gut the class to point where I think anyone who ditches it is justified. I'll outline why before I disappear entirely again:Just speaking to everything you mentioned about shield spamming - pretty much no longer a thing. Hammer got some hefty buffs that make shield spamming nearly obsolete.
- Hew equilibrium recovery time increased to 2.4 seconds, up from 2.
The class whose offense was already heavily susceptible to shield spamming now becomes even more susceptible to it. You're literally better off using Hammer tattoo. It was made even easier to spam shield against Sciomancer when they lost passive disturb.
- Repay now utilizes unmodified equilibrium when recently used.
See the above on shield spamming. Now they have one free eq shield strip every 10 seconds with Shadowpriced Hew, but this forces them to sacrifice their offense for it. I don't really understand the purpose of Repay taking health and debt being restored taking health. That's almost a base amount of sip being taken away by unblockable damage.
- It is no longer possible to use SHADOWPRICE while you have weariness.
Cool, so now Sciomancer is locked out of the major part of its offense entirely by an easily available affliction that is a standard part of venom-based offenses trying to bury asthma. They lost their ability to shrug venoms. Why is this necessary on top of it?
- Shadow debt forgiveness via timer now consumes some health when it recovers.
This one isn't a tremendous deal to me, but it merely makes the gulf between those who are heavily artifacted Sciomancers and those who aren't at all even wider, plus it has large ramifications for Sciomancer PvE, which is where that gulf is easily known and seen.
- Ruin equilibrium recovery time increased to 2.2, up from 2.
This is probably the worst change. Ruin is one affliction unless priced. Prices are already going to be limited as a result of the Repay change and any active form of hindrance already slows a Sciomancer down.
All and all, anyone who leaves Sciomancer at this point is justified. The class feels like a janky, half-complete mess that was riddled with bugs the last time I played it. They are fragile as hell without an artifact shield and protection amulet, and now you likely need a sip artifact to make their bashing tolerable. Again, I thought the first round of changes they got before I quit were completely justified and reasonable. These gut the class's offense entirely. I would be moving on to another class like Teradrim or Indorani if I played Nisavi still. I disagree with the notion that people have to stick around in a class that has been gutted to validate if changes are justified or not. People play the game to have fun, not to be test cases to see if something sticks.
Basically, if I was going to defeat a Sciomancer, I'd literally just sit there and spam shield and they have zero recourse against me. A single shield alone is a significant set back to their momentum. Before someone counters with Scourge, hidden Scourge is entirely testable through symptom checks and if you don't catch the symptoms for the other afflictions through checks, your system can assume Confusion and heal it. All of Scourge's affs are guessable.
Illikaal
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