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Re: Announce post #3198: 2021 Auction
I mean, @Tiur has legit in the past repeated at least a few times that he hopes people will retire who have the super strong things in that helpfile, and that he makes an effort tone things down a bit in these. Yes this leads to feeling like anything they come up with will probably be toned down or lame. Hell, my first response too was 'This whole list feels a little weak', but I think that's the intended design. It also doesn't help that we all overhyped ourselves for this for the past three weeks.
On the other hand, on the player disappointment side of things, I think that it would feel less 'bad' that its weak, if the auctions were ran more often than once every 2 years. To be quite frank, I have no idea, with all the currency this will drain out of the game and money that it will make, why these wouldn't be done more often, in place of say, promos that a lot of us are burnt out on. ESPECIALLY if they're going to be toned down, or at least feel toned down.
On the other hand, on the player disappointment side of things, I think that it would feel less 'bad' that its weak, if the auctions were ran more often than once every 2 years. To be quite frank, I have no idea, with all the currency this will drain out of the game and money that it will make, why these wouldn't be done more often, in place of say, promos that a lot of us are burnt out on. ESPECIALLY if they're going to be toned down, or at least feel toned down.
Aeryx
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Re: Announce post #3197: Treaties and relations
CITY TREATY <#> PROPOSE <term>
- You can now propose an action to be executed as part of accepting a treaty. Those of you who remember the old war system will find some of these terms familiar.
They are: Alliance, Peace, Ceasefire, Surrender, Ally, and Enemy.
I'll likely add some more things you can do, but for now this is what we will start with.
CITY TREATY <#> DEMAND <term>
- Much like proposing, you can demand something.
They are: Surrender, Ally, and Enemy.
Again, I may add some more but for now this is all I'm adding.
CITY TREATY <#> OFFER
- This is how you offer the treaty. Note that you no longer specify the organization here.
CITY TREATY <#> DISSOLVE
- This command is how you void a treaty on friendly terms. Both parties must do this.
- You can now propose an action to be executed as part of accepting a treaty. Those of you who remember the old war system will find some of these terms familiar.
They are: Alliance, Peace, Ceasefire, Surrender, Ally, and Enemy.
I'll likely add some more things you can do, but for now this is what we will start with.
CITY TREATY <#> DEMAND <term>
- Much like proposing, you can demand something.
They are: Surrender, Ally, and Enemy.
Again, I may add some more but for now this is all I'm adding.
CITY TREATY <#> OFFER
- This is how you offer the treaty. Note that you no longer specify the organization here.
CITY TREATY <#> DISSOLVE
- This command is how you void a treaty on friendly terms. Both parties must do this.
I was thinking about having the ability for Guilds/Cities to be able to propose terms of treaty under research or support. Non-aggression is similar to ceasefire, so we can possibly just use that for Guilds if we want to/there is reason to.
Research might be a term that could allow a pledging of gold that acts as research funds. Similarly, they can be demanded for using GUILD TREATY # DEMAND if the funds that are suggested are not sufficient.
Support could be angled the same way, where an org can specify a (seasonal/annual/bi-annual) stipend of gold that they'll be automatically tithed to the other org, This only covers monetary support, though. The question is whether we can use this term without the option of monetary tithes, to cover usage of treaties for other kinds of support, like for information or otherwise.
Where research and support treaties are concerned, I feel we should allow these kinds of treaties to be uni-laterally dissolved, if one organisation might feel the terms of the treaty aren't met. Still feeling the waters on this one.
I wouldn't mind it if we get the ability to look at GUILD RELATIONS, because then it would enhance Guild to Guild RP a bit more, rather than have them serve as little more than glorified clans where people of a same mindset join and achieve something together!
Research might be a term that could allow a pledging of gold that acts as research funds. Similarly, they can be demanded for using GUILD TREATY # DEMAND if the funds that are suggested are not sufficient.
Support could be angled the same way, where an org can specify a (seasonal/annual/bi-annual) stipend of gold that they'll be automatically tithed to the other org, This only covers monetary support, though. The question is whether we can use this term without the option of monetary tithes, to cover usage of treaties for other kinds of support, like for information or otherwise.
Where research and support treaties are concerned, I feel we should allow these kinds of treaties to be uni-laterally dissolved, if one organisation might feel the terms of the treaty aren't met. Still feeling the waters on this one.
I wouldn't mind it if we get the ability to look at GUILD RELATIONS, because then it would enhance Guild to Guild RP a bit more, rather than have them serve as little more than glorified clans where people of a same mindset join and achieve something together!
Elene
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Re: Aetolia Commander/EDH League?!
Watching someone from the desk down??? That's how bad things happen.
"Oh no step-card. Stop. What are you doing?"
"Oh no step-card. Stop. What are you doing?"
Rhyot
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Re: Mildly Irritating: Aetolia's Pet Peeves
I mean I think arguably anybody logged in is agreeing to RP, meaning WHO accomplishes essentially the same thing; but I also see the value if it works for you. I think @Lin is on the money about AFK stuff tho.
Tetchta
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Re: Chaos Lord and Transparency
no
If you wanna see the reskin, get to level 200. Put in the work.
If you wanna see the reskin, get to level 200. Put in the work.
Rhyot
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Re: Mildly Irritating: Aetolia's Pet Peeves
Cool, in only 10-25 days you'll gather enough stone to build one (1) room in your house!Slow and steady wins the race!
Rhyot
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Ylem Aura Toggle On/Off
I have a proposal for an idea revolving the ylem aura. The idea is to add a toggle which will prevent you from gaining the aura but also would prevent you from using refining skills entirely while toggled.
The reason for this is largely for those who really do not want to participate in minors/lessers/majors and do not want to unwittingly become subject to open PK against their will. You can gain the aura simply by path tracking through the wrong area and often you won't be able to notice until it is too late. This wouldn't be much of a problem but there has been much talk of various characters being killed on this basis which is entirely within the rules but still completely sucks for whoever is getting killed.
Why it sucks:
Perhaps you are in the middle of a quest?
Maybe you were gathering commodities?
Possibly you had some items that simply drop on death in general in your inventory and might not get them back.
Why else it sucks:
Maybe the player in question entirely avoids PK due to the real-life stress and frustration it can cause.
While I know these are all risks that everyone generally acknowledges within the game, it can always be improved upon in order to create a playing environment that can cater to all types of players without causing them anxiety, frustration, and other things generally unwanted when playing a game that should be about fun and community.
Another idea for the path tracking issue could be to add a config for the tracker to stop a room before you would enter into an open PK zone so you can walk around it entirely.
I am just shooting ideas out here and have no idea how realistic or easy these changes are to make so bear with me. I mostly am hoping to create a discussion.
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Also, for those of you who might wonder, this post is directly prompted by the goings on with @Didi as well as events that have happened to many other players. Just because it is within the rules doesn't make it cool to go out of your way to target someone.
The reason for this is largely for those who really do not want to participate in minors/lessers/majors and do not want to unwittingly become subject to open PK against their will. You can gain the aura simply by path tracking through the wrong area and often you won't be able to notice until it is too late. This wouldn't be much of a problem but there has been much talk of various characters being killed on this basis which is entirely within the rules but still completely sucks for whoever is getting killed.
Why it sucks:
Perhaps you are in the middle of a quest?
Maybe you were gathering commodities?
Possibly you had some items that simply drop on death in general in your inventory and might not get them back.
Why else it sucks:
Maybe the player in question entirely avoids PK due to the real-life stress and frustration it can cause.
While I know these are all risks that everyone generally acknowledges within the game, it can always be improved upon in order to create a playing environment that can cater to all types of players without causing them anxiety, frustration, and other things generally unwanted when playing a game that should be about fun and community.
Another idea for the path tracking issue could be to add a config for the tracker to stop a room before you would enter into an open PK zone so you can walk around it entirely.
I am just shooting ideas out here and have no idea how realistic or easy these changes are to make so bear with me. I mostly am hoping to create a discussion.
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Also, for those of you who might wonder, this post is directly prompted by the goings on with @Didi as well as events that have happened to many other players. Just because it is within the rules doesn't make it cool to go out of your way to target someone.
Fyrren
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Re: Mildly Irritating: Aetolia's Pet Peeves
Sigh. I've got some credits lying around but 20+ rag purchases really is too many.
Seurimas
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Re: Limitate the Mutate (in arena/sect)
By that logic, since my Chaos Lord isn't that great and it's only real use is for lessers or being a general tank, I think that if I've sunk 5000+ credits into a subclass (and countless hours bashing), I should be able to viably PK in it. I mean, if that's the stance you're willing to die on, then get everyone together to petition K and T to give back original Chaos Lord damage/abilities.Sryaen said:My shifter isn't great, I only really use it for lessers or quartering so it's not really an ace in the hole for me if I start to get behind in my other class. But I think that if I've sunk 900cr into a subclass, I should be able to use it whenever.
You mean like Templar, Revenant, Carnifex, and Lumi? Classes you can't shift out of unless you specifically have Shapeshifter?Saltz said:My argument against the limit is this, there are classes in this game that already have access to reliable limb and aff routes in them.
That's kind of the cut of the land though, isn't it? Some classes can do some things others can't. You roll with what you get. You want to fight as Shapeshifter, then SECT ACCEPT as Shapeshifter.
I'm with Saidenn, Ardent and Elene though, switching to Shifter mid-fight is in complete contrast to the spirit of a good fight.
Whatever class you're in when you hit SECT ACCEPT is the class you fight in. That's the risk you take when you fight in Sect. You fight with what you're active in.
Rhyot
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