IC/OOC seperation is a HUGE issue in some players and perhaps in this community as a whole, it is something that has demotivated me at times, and nearly force me to quit playing, if it wasn't for the good people out there being thoughtful and talking me down. With the amount of bandwagoning and just... lacking RP for stuff that could have very well been handled in game, its astounding. I have dealt with this recently, and some very good players, even some of them having been people I have disagreed with in the past, have looked beyond the past, have talked to me politely OOC, and been civil adults about things, which I have appreciated, it is the mature and responsible thing to do.
Being a character which often toes the line against the sensitivities of others, it is my responsibility as a player to be receptive to output provided, to be mature, and to consider how to better myself as a player. I always will welcome feedback maturely, I recently did so because I thought I might have been a source of upset folks, and was reassured that there are much larger over-arching issues, and that in the least my willingness to discuss was appreciated.
Some folks, just cant grasp that though, some folks treat the forums/discord, and the ignore function as a tool to just be assholes, instead of have IC interaction. Then bring problems to the forums to forum RP or discord to talk about players behind the characters.
Now I will preface this that on other characters, I have done things I am not proud of, said things that I am not proud of, and even furthermore, the root of this all, I have learned from my mistakes for ways I have interacted.
But a lot of folks, don't, and frankly it is sad. If you choose to ignore someone or refuse IC interaction, you don't get to be on the OOC shit-slinging parade as well.
Hot take, but I don't think Whirran's behavior is reprehensible. That's probably not surprising coming from someone else who plays an asshole character, though. It's completely In Character and people should stop assuming malice just because a character's actions are disreputable or disrespectful. It is ridiculous how many arbitrary expectations people are projecting here. Nobody is entitled to a peaceful bashing experience if they do things that create PK cause or stand in places that create that cause.
To use this latest example that folk are kicking around: Isia knew what she was doing. She doesn't have a right to bash in the Vortex without being PKed. The rules don't have a footnote that says 'except for Isia'. It's nobody's fault but her own that she is using an Open PK zone to grind to 200 in the last few levels that represent the most significant part of the grind - and, as it would so happen, allow for the highest losses. That's her fault.
We all seem to agree on the above paragraph, based on post history in this thread, which means what this is really about is what Whirran shouted. I don't think he shouted anything over the line. He hit a character where it hurts. Maybe that character will think better of crossing him next time. He didn't need a reason beyond 'Isia is in Vortex' - but he sure as hell outlined one to the entire world and that is villain shit. It's more roleplay than we often see surrounding our PK and he added it as an optional special sauce. Going to the forums and decrying him for taking an extra step to make the game more atmospheric/IC seems like a weird plan, to be frank.
I also feel there is a difference between politeness and sportsmanship. If you can't handle an antagonist getting loud and saying antagonist things, maybe this game isn't for you? I think anybody decrying him in this thread is trying to enforce boring politeness, not nuanced sportsmanship - and that is my pet peeve.
Edit: Got rid of this oversized smile emoji. because it was messing with line spacing.
I'm Commander Shepard, and this is the worst conversation on the Citadel. I don't even really know where to start other than to echo Lin here and say that there's a massive amount of work I think people should be doing (that they aren't doing) to at least try to have some IC/OOC separation. Look, nobody's expecting perfection on that front, but sweet mother of Varo, I swear that some of y'all ain't even trying.
I also have to say that it seems like some of y'all are intentionally being petulant and unproductive. We all gotta swim in this pool, can you put in an effort to not take a massive dump in the water when folk are posting in good faith?
I feel like establishing a good, healthy IC/OOC separation used to be so common in Aetolia that everyone took it for granted - this thread, as of late, really suggests we ought to bring back the practice.
The 200 grind is dumb and foci are dumb. Even if Shadow had the numbers or will to do it. Foci are an uninspired replacement for creating an environment that spurs organic world pk and another symptom of the over mmo-ification of the game.