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Chaos Lord and Transparency
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Feel free to put your definitive answer below.
Sorry Rhyot, I know you wrote you don't want to share your skill set, I'm definitely curious.
I also want to know if these skills will be given to others getting level 200 (for shadow folks).
If you wanna see the reskin, get to level 200. Put in the work.
2.5 years ago when I got Chaos Lord, it was viable in PVP because why shouldn't it? If I can't have access to normal classes, I should at least be able to defend myself and kill someone if they decided to jump me, yes? Well, cool. HOWEVER, it was so absurdly overpowered I was able to 1v5 a lesser and win because my Havoc hits were doing about 2800 damage per hit. That's gonna kill almost anyone in 4-5 hits even with good curing.
I was always working with Oleis, Razmael, and Keroc to make sure it all got balanced accordingly. Because let's be real, 2800 damage on a single hit is stupid OP. While fun, still OP.
A very large (small now) group of individuals got upset and pissy about it in Discord and issued themselves about it. Only reason why I know they did, is because they TOLD ME that they issued themselves about it. They told me "There's no reason why you should have such a powerful class. If you were a spirit tether, this wouldn't even be an issue." After that, Chaos Lord was nerfed into a child who can't even defend himself from lego blocks because the randomization is too much and the damage is too little.
Since then, I have tried to rebalance Chaos Lord. Multiple times. Each time, I get told the same thing.
Decision:
2017/07/18 11:35:28
Chaoslord is just a flavour skillset, we're not really aiming to make it competitive.
Decision:
2018/04/18 01:13:56
Our thoughts haven't changed from last time. Chaoslord is just a flavour skillset, we're
not really aiming to make it competitive.
So essentially, I lost an original combat viable class (It's really a race, but for the sake of this argument we'll call it a class) because a bunch of people didn't like that I was a shadow tether individual that could fight them off 1v5. I put in unknown amounts of hours and hard work into getting level 200 and it got nerfed because what... people were jealous and upset about something being stupidly OP on release?
Should AB CHAOS be released, I have absolutely no faith that there won't be the same kneejerk reactions to Chaos that would inevitably make it pointless for me to even BASH in because people won't like that they can't use it.
I’d also want to know what the racial skills were if they could be used in pvp, whether it is viable or not.
Something I do not have the time or drive to do in all honesty. Alongside likely many other players. Which for all intents and purposes protects you and the class you have earned because a single persons use in a niche pool of abilities is not something I feel needs the impending nerf hammer.
However on that vein of thought we do so a very “chaotic” as likely intended, damage output and things like “unblockable” damage which definitely raises the curiosity flags. I know there are some curiosities to the race/skills you possess and I think just understanding of them would be nice. I would be keen to even toss in the caveat that we can’t report on your skills or groan to Keroc about things after seeing what they do and why they do it to protect you and allow you and the administration to have the hands on to any of that. But also in the same scope of things.... MAYBE we can also help improve your class and provide you advice.
Trying to be more constructive and see this as a positive opportunity than a negative because I definitely don’t want to damage your gameplay in any way. You’re a pretty good dude and honestly I think we should be good dudes back
Zynti is working on it and trucking along like a monster.
looks at current Chaos Lord and the fact that I just spent 15 LITERAL minutes beating on Robyn in BP and got nowhere near killing her
Uh... riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
That said, at this point.... the admins are going to do what they're gonna do. Which in this case since there's 10 people saying yes to release it... it's probably gonna get released anyway. And I'll just have to deal with the deletion of the race later (i don't trust people).
So anything after the 10 yes' was merely pointless waste of breath that the admins are going to look at, throw away and go "Time to move on."
Am I curious what Chaos Lord truly is from an AB/HELP RACIAL SKILL perspective? Absolutely. But if it's just what Rhyot's already explained the first time around (before the call to vote) and no admin contradicted him? Curiosity sated, let it retain the mystery, let Rhyot have his unbalanced (seemingly against his favor) class/race, and let anyone else who hits 200 have their reskinned mystery as well. Give players something known yet unknown to strive for.
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That said, I don't think it's fair to him to make it PvE-only just to preserve mystique. And I don't think it's fair to anyone else for there to be exclusive abilities that, unlike every other ability usable by players against other players, have no accessible information. I'd feel the same way if he was Spirit or if another player reached 200 and got their own reskinned abilities.
So yes, release the AB files.
Oh well.
That said, I apologize for my anger this morning.
But just because you havent heard it, doesnt mean it wont happen. There are many other people in this game (about 90 of them) and I think history has a tendency to repeat itself. I do actually see people putting in reports for CL and I absolutely see them getting approved, if only to quell the masses and their opinions.