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Ankyrean Anguish - Aetolia-based RAGE
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I think it's really kinda lame and an insult to our efforts to just act like we logged in and somehow are magically better at bashing.
Oh Aetolia... :P
I'd personally like to see a lot of consumables that help with hunting up for sale outside of chalices. There might be less complaining if they were more readily accessible. A random chance from chests means that even if people do want them, they can't realistically obtain them. No amount of chest purchases will guarantee any hunting items and you buy credits that in turn need to be sold for gold. Not gold itself.
Hunting is something that I think needs a deeper thinktank on the side of the admin and players for how it's going to progress in the future. As it stands it's a way to easily grind gold for 1%ers that others have limited access to. The majority of the playerbase is end game, yet there are very few endgame hunting areas and whenever content is added, there is no incentive like gold drops to hunt there. I don't know where @Razmael and @Oleis see hunting going in the future, whether it's a time waster that's fine as is, or whether it's a feature that should be expanded and marketed but personally I think it should be looked into.
Competitions in IRE are never balanced for the contenders to have an equal footing (the whole concept of artifacts takes a level playing field out of the equation pretty quickly), but that does not mean that these events should not be balanced to be fair in regards to the basic principles of the event itself; for example, in the Brawl (I think it is the Brawl), grouping up to clear the competition does not work because targetting becomes unreliable with large number of people in the room. In the same vein, prohibiting people from sitting in their Haven racking up points (and enough points to win hundreds of credits, at that) promotes the concept behind the Great Hunt: people compete to see who is the most accomplished hunter, not who happened to buy the most globes.
That said, I'm all for disabling artifacts/chocolates/grimstims/whathaveyou in Great Hunts. I used to be opposed to it because, well, what's the point of Pay-for-Perks if you can't use them? Anyway, if people feel strongly about this, limit everyones' access to skillsets to weaponry, give them 12/12/12/12 stats, and give access to scalemail armour. I think Moirean and Ezalor would still have decent chances of placing high, but maybe some new names would show up high in the rankings. It'd be interesting to see, for sure.
Overall, globes were a money maker for Aetolia during the Hunt because of the great point values they provided. Now that they have been nerfed, not only have they reduced the in game value of the globes (which affects their sales) but they have also reduced the chance of people getting globes in chests, which reduces the likelihood of people buying credits to sell for chests to get globes (another affect against their sales). So, I think this was a very bad business move on their part to do this as they are affecting their sales from multiple angles.
The first being that they're not easily obtainable and second being that you don't need to actually be in a hunting ground to use them, so there is no actual "competition," with other hunters, it's just your own private spot to farm points.
Like you're not actually out and about hunting, everyone roaming and fighting over the same things to kill. Killing areas that aren't usually hunted because of the lack of stuff. All the rest.
As for you personally Zsadist, you could claim you were sold a fake rolex, in a sense. That's always been an issue with Aetolia though. Like they've refunded deleted artifacts but you may not want anything else with the credits, or they'll nerf a class you went and invested in to the point it's not fun any more. There are always instances of changes screwing someone over for the sake of someone else.
I don't really want events to be even. Those comments were aimed at Rowena who said that artifacts/chocolates/class are unfair. It was an exaggerated example to point out that there always is someone else in Aetolia that has more bonuses than yourself (unless you're @Daskalos, of course). Anyway. My whole point was that the Great Hunt is meant to be a competition between bashers to see who has more hunting knowledge and perseverance. You claim that globes are good for the Great Hunt because they generate revenue for Aetolia? Myself and plenty others have expressed a concern that the globes work against the intended spirit of the event, and with this most recent change it seems the administration agrees with the general opinion. I'm sorry, but again, it sounds like you're pushing for something that benefits you personally rather than the game as a whole.
You seem upset that a few people that're actually good at bashing are placing high in a competition based around bashing? Well, it's the same with the Delos arena events, with the Iron Epicurean (it seems @Eleanor makes delicious foods), with artisanals/bardics, and most other events. That doesn't mean that it's impossible to win, it just means that the odds are stacked against you.
You say that Ezalor can outbash anyone in the 99+tier, but he has only placed top10 in a Great Hunt once and I doubt he will try for #1 again because the effort/reward isn't all that exceptionall once you're in the top five rankings. Also, I didn't even participate in the last Great Hunt. I won't be participating in this one. Munsia placed second in the first Great Hunt she ever participated in. If anything, I'd like to say that a lot of people have a pretty decent chance of competing for the top spots. The outcome is far from as predetermined as you make it out to be.
Last Great Hunt was the first one I ever tried in and I was only around for half of it and made top 10.
I was in the volcano most of it, I'm tanky enough to handle multiple aggros there and I kill fast.
Just because you can't use arties to easily gain yourself more doesn't mean they're not worth having.
The issue I have with that is that it devalues something that's already very expensive.
Also, some classes like Teradrim and Praenomen without artifacts are FAR better hunters than say... a Mage even with artifacts.
Disabling artifacts wont suddenly create a level playing field, it will just punish those that financially support IRE.
Also, there is encouraging other people to participate, which is a snowball. I never considered buying arties ( or pking ) until I bought a chest set and got a sweet amulet of protection and a pair of wings. That was the day Aetolia got me, sadly
Classes have advantages.
Hunting boons like who has chocolates / pills / blessings give advantages.
If you take away the benefit of tanking artifacts you'd still get people with friends that are willing to heal or reflect them.
Artifacts are just part of the game and they're a part that help pay to keep the coder and game master and servers. It's counter productive to penalize people for having them for any reason.
The only solution that would work is create a mini-game that doesn't use class / artis etc. where everyone is on the exact same level. Depending on what it is, that could just come down to whoever writes the best script or has the least latency.
TL;DR - The Hunt is what it is, it's fine as it is. The globes were against the spirit of the Hunt which is getting out and finding stuff to kill and competing over hunting spots.
Globes gave a very large advantage in a competition for which bashing area availability was the largest control. When that was blown open, the spirit of the Great Hunt (beat the other guy to the good XP) was foiled. The last 10 posts are just a smokescreen to mask the frustration that someone's EZ-win button was nerfed. Tail-chasing theorycrafting about 'fairness' is not going to get you anywhere at this point.
Though I'm a casual observer at best. I don't really bash, and I don't really care about great hunts. Just sort of giving an objective opinion here.
I don't really think it's a discussion that should be casually dismissed because it's relevant to the whole atmosphere of the game.
Or, EZ-buttons and tail-chasing.
^_^
All of which have been playing, at least three years, some longer. I doubt they were the top bashers that entire time.
You and I started at roughly the same time and already you have come to be ranked at #1 in experience at some point. I think this, in itself, is quite a fete. Yet you're over reaching and complaining about something that you simply shouldn't be, because at some point you will get the artifacts (from all the gold you make from all the bashing you do day in and day out) to bash as equally fast as the people who've been around for 3 times the amount you have, will.
TLDR: Chill out man, you've got it good and are on the road to being right there with them on bashing speeds.