Lifers try to PK me if I come in unphased, or shout at me to leave, and then I get bitched at for disrupting stuff by showing up. So I come phased. Nobody posts logs to read, really.
I tried to make an effort to invite Moirean, but you didn't really seem interested!
At that point I was getting nasty messages. I went and QQd and made dinner instead.
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AngweI'm the dog that ate yr birthday cakeBedford, VA
edited July 2014
With the Dendara events, you had the stigma of being something similar to the group of 'people' who caused the trouble in the first place. Hearn was lying wounded and vulnerable-looking in the snow the first scene AND you came in phased. Honestly, I don't think you'd have any trouble at most events if you just... walked in like a normal person.
I hate that I can't post on my phone but here goes.. albeit a little late.
Why didn't you jump onto your less suspicious type alt to watch?
I don't say this part to be mean but I get the impression sometimes that Moirean will always seem to get involved in an event one way or the other. I'm not sure if that's your doing as a player or the seemingly large percentage of events that seem to be tailored to her/your involvement. Just, you know let the little people enjoy their slim slice of the admin attention when they get it. and wait like everyone else it wasn't tailored to for the log.
I hate that I can't post on my phone but here goes.. albeit a little late. Why didn't you jump onto your less suspicious type alt to watch?
I don't say this part to be mean but I get the impression sometimes that Moirean will always seem to get involved in an event one way or the other. I'm not sure if that's your doing as a player or the seemingly large percentage of events that seem to be tailored to her/your involvement. Just, you know let the little people enjoy their slim slice of the admin attention when they get it. and wait like everyone else it wasn't tailored to for the log.
I'm a player who plays the game. Why shouldn't I pop in and participate in stuff? Especially if it's just to sit and watch? That's one of the huge reasons we play this game - to see cool stories and be involved. If stuff was meant to be secret and exclusive, there would not be game-wide emotes about what is going on, nor would the action be taking place in a public spot. Again, I WAS IN PHASE - I was explicitly trying to avoid bugging you guys. It's really damn rude for you to act like I'm trying to hog the attention for your stupid event when I went in as anonymous as I could and was just sitting there doing nothing except watching.
I think coming in phased should result in people thinking you're spying. Because... it frankly is espionage.
I think it is fun to just phase, and spy on people and events (big or small) and whatever else catches my interest. If all my enemies, and I use this term loosely, gather in one place and suddenly Gods are popping in, that piques my curiosity and spying is a legitimate reason to find out what is going on. If you as a player -need- to know what is going on for whatever reason, then find out in a way that doesn't come across as potentially hostile. If phased citizens of Enorian or Duiran showed up at the big bad summoning of all the demonfolk and human sacrifice and whatnot, I'd try to eye sigil them and have them removed. If they're interested on an OOC level, they can ask for a log on the forums or whatever else, but I'm not going to break character and let them spy just because they want to. I expect exactly the same thing whenever I am phased inside an enemy city, in the room of an ongoing event, or in someone else's haven.
I think it might just be me that gets this rush when spying on something that's clearly none of my business, and the danger of being caught and the associated maneuvering is fun to me.
I hate that I can't post on my phone but here goes.. albeit a little late. Why didn't you jump onto your less suspicious type alt to watch?
I don't say this part to be mean but I get the impression sometimes that Moirean will always seem to get involved in an event one way or the other. I'm not sure if that's your doing as a player or the seemingly large percentage of events that seem to be tailored to her/your involvement. Just, you know let the little people enjoy their slim slice of the admin attention when they get it. and wait like everyone else it wasn't tailored to for the log.
I'm a player who plays the game. Why shouldn't I pop in and participate in stuff? Especially if it's just to sit and watch? That's one of the huge reasons we play this game - to see cool stories and be involved. If stuff was meant to be secret and exclusive, there would not be game-wide emotes about what is going on, nor would the action be taking place in a public spot. Again, I WAS IN PHASE - I was explicitly trying to avoid bugging you guys. It's really damn rude for you to act like I'm trying to hog the attention for your stupid event when I went in as anonymous as I could and was just sitting there doing nothing except watching.
I think she just forgot one small tidbit in the opening is all!
"I don't say this part to be mean, but HISTORICALLY.."
Boom, fixed. No need to get all up-in-arms about it.
Moirean, you can't just pick and choose if you're IC or OOC when it comes to this. There's no special pretense to phasing that allows an IC absence. Your character, Moirean, is physically there. If someone detects you spying, sigils you, and reacts... that's well within their right.
It really sounds to me like you've spent years playing one of the biggest antagonists in the game, and now you're upset that it sort of results in people being wary and suspicious of you. Or at least, you want people to put that on pause when it doesn't suit you and you just want to be a 'regular guy'.
Just come to the events, and RP it however. Or don't, and sit there and ignore people and half-idle like everyone else.
If people are sending you jerk messages, who cares? Don't plan your day around people being jerks. Your problem is you get so worked up over what people say that you preemptively act in certain ways, and it sort of perpetuates this silly loop. You're being defensive or aggressive right from the start, and then then they feel justified for being mean to you because 'Moirean did it again', but then you feel like you're justified, for being upset, mad, angry, sad, or acting in your own negative fashion because 'they were going to be / are being / always are jerks to me anyway',
Fuggem, man. Just come to the event. At least approach it like a normal person (literally, as in not phased) and validate your argument of not being there to cause mischief. Make them the real bad guy, instead of Moirean's perceived bad guy.
I hate how bored I've been with things lately that I've been playing another character more again. It's like a cycle now..each time RP tempting me to make a change that I really don't think I should. Frustrating.
As far as I'm concerned, everything that isn't part of a OOC channel or clan, an OOC tell, a message, or interaction with Admins or Gods on an OOC level is IC.
If you're in public, it's in character. All of it, without exception.
Clearly marked OOC tells***, that's one of my biggest pet peeves. >< "I'm going to rant at you/talk at you in a manner that is normal for my character and then at the end drop an OOC reference and tell you you can't react because it was clearly OOC even though I gave you no real way of knowing because nothing in the interaction was abnormal or marked save for the final comment."
I know I'm not the first one to comment on this matter, but this...
At the foot of the Vashnar mountains. (Mhojave desert.?) (2786) [-Haern-] The bright sun shines down, blanketing you with its life-giving warmth. A massive iron door looms above you. A yellowed bone slice lies here. There are 34 Teshen raiders here.
^ I was just about to post about that...there were 31 in a room I was passing and they killed me before I could even auto walk out...I lost a ton of ink and can get back to the room to get it.
1) Enorian declares war on Bloodloch, because Ellenia said Dato was a smelly butt face.
I think if no gfs for 2 weeks was actually some alarm bell a lot more guilds than Syssin need some attention.
I know I'm late on this topic but THANK YOU @Aishia! This is exactly what was on my mind, and when mentioned, this fact was dismissed. I can still name off a handful of guilds that, even to this day, are far more stagnant and neigh-impossible to progress (mostly from afk/interview denial) than the syssin ever were. This was back when the guild was commanding topguilds at 1000+ daily for several weeks consecutively, and the requirements then still weren't very much worse than they are now. No essence or mist requirements, at least. (EDIT: I need to note that the original changes to progression requirements and such following the Inquisitor revamp were all Divine approved.) More concerning for me was that Administration poked in to enforce these changes, spawned from a mandated facelift/reform, but then gave Zero support in engaging or promoting activity for the guild, even when practically begged for on my part. I offered several ideas and pledged to write and do whatever I could to help cement some kind of micro-event to reinforce the change. Ideas from other secretaries like @Jensen and @Ferrik. In the end, I got absolutely nothing and drifted off to other games. Now I know not all administrators 'do rp', but I'm fairly certain they know some who do.
There is no quest. You can turnin mobs for extra gold. There's no explicit quest to cull them or drive them back. Their spawn rate just seems to be buggy. I kinda like it, though, as it is creating this "GUYS WE REALLY NEED TO BE DOING SOMETHING" situation. Maybe that's all intended! Ezalor and I both kinda ended up killing them together earlier, unplanned, just out of sheer grr-our-newb-citizens-are-dying, we both came across each other in the area and teamed up without really talking about it. I found that rather fun in a weird way. I've mobmessaged a few mobs to try to offer incentive as best I can as a Spirean to my cits to capitalize on it and help cull the rising numbers, but it's really more of a BL thing I guess, so I'm not expecting replies.
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I think it is fun to just phase, and spy on people and events (big or small) and whatever else catches my interest. If all my enemies, and I use this term loosely, gather in one place and suddenly Gods are popping in, that piques my curiosity and spying is a legitimate reason to find out what is going on. If you as a player -need- to know what is going on for whatever reason, then find out in a way that doesn't come across as potentially hostile. If phased citizens of Enorian or Duiran showed up at the big bad summoning of all the demonfolk and human sacrifice and whatnot, I'd try to eye sigil them and have them removed. If they're interested on an OOC level, they can ask for a log on the forums or whatever else, but I'm not going to break character and let them spy just because they want to. I expect exactly the same thing whenever I am phased inside an enemy city, in the room of an ongoing event, or in someone else's haven.
I think it might just be me that gets this rush when spying on something that's clearly none of my business, and the danger of being caught and the associated maneuvering is fun to me.
"I don't say this part to be mean, but HISTORICALLY.."
Boom, fixed. No need to get all up-in-arms about it.
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Just come to the events, and RP it however. Or don't, and sit there and ignore people and half-idle like everyone else.
If people are sending you jerk messages, who cares? Don't plan your day around people being jerks. Your problem is you get so worked up over what people say that you preemptively act in certain ways, and it sort of perpetuates this silly loop. You're being defensive or aggressive right from the start, and then then they feel justified for being mean to you because 'Moirean did it again', but then you feel like you're justified, for being upset, mad, angry, sad, or acting in your own negative fashion because 'they were going to be / are being / always are jerks to me anyway',
Fuggem, man. Just come to the event. At least approach it like a normal person (literally, as in not phased) and validate your argument of not being there to cause mischief. Make them the real bad guy, instead of Moirean's perceived bad guy.
If you're in public, it's in character. All of it, without exception.
At the foot of the Vashnar mountains. (Mhojave desert.?) (2786) [-Haern-]
The bright sun shines down, blanketing you with its life-giving warmth. A massive iron door looms above you. A yellowed bone slice lies here. There are 34 Teshen raiders here.
This is exactly what was on my mind, and when mentioned, this fact was dismissed. I can still name off a handful of guilds that, even to this day, are far more stagnant and neigh-impossible to progress (mostly from afk/interview denial) than the syssin ever were. This was back when the guild was commanding topguilds at 1000+ daily for several weeks consecutively, and the requirements then still weren't very much worse than they are now. No essence or mist requirements, at least. (EDIT: I need to note that the original changes to progression requirements and such following the Inquisitor revamp were all Divine approved.)
More concerning for me was that Administration poked in to enforce these changes, spawned from a mandated facelift/reform, but then gave Zero support in engaging or promoting activity for the guild, even when practically begged for on my part. I offered several ideas and pledged to write and do whatever I could to help cement some kind of micro-event to reinforce the change. Ideas from other secretaries like @Jensen and @Ferrik. In the end, I got absolutely nothing and drifted off to other games. Now I know not all administrators 'do rp', but I'm fairly certain they know some who do.
That being said, I think this can be handled pretty fine IG and I think it's a fun challenge we should tackle as players to sort out.