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I do have one or two questions please.
How is all these changes going to work with Bloodborn given we lost a lot of the cool stuff from mentis in the last 5+ years and never got the fun stuff like monitor or invoking images/visions in our childer.
Is mentis getting updated for all vampire subclasses?
When can we submit changes to hematurgy as we could not the last round or is it getting changed too as a few of us would love to do reports for umbrage and other tiny tweaks.
Thank you.
Abhorash says, "Ve'kahi has proved that even bastards can earn their place."
I don't know perhaps I enjoy hearing their reactions to seeing these things happen.
I know for me those first interactions I had when I was sired stuck with me as they involved a history of who my sire was and little images of them beckoning or reminding me of things.
In terms of forcing my childer to do stuff ... no thanks I hated it when it was done to me and like I said I only want the fun rp stuff.
Abhorash says, "Ve'kahi has proved that even bastards can earn their place."
Whatever nerfs you're talking about I'm 90% were oversight corrections (ie throwing weapons+returning+dwhisper to bypass rebounding) or just the buffs listed above being toned back, which I don't count as a nerf. The only true nerf that I am aware of was paralysis being changed to paresis > paralysis.
The class honestly isn't "unplayable" necessarily. You yourself have enough artifacts to steam roll through the paupers of Aetolia because the damage out put is pretty high.
That being said, I'm only pissed off about the revamp taking so long because the original post in this thread making it seem like it was almost here. Like it was a done deal, just waiting on a few small things. I personally would have lived a less miserable life had I been told nothing about the revamp.
Pls pardon typos typing from phone is hard.
And while we're on the subject, I believed Oleis (I think) when he said Prae was not meant to be a bashing only aspect of vampires.
@Draiman Maybe your doing something wrong then as last 3/4 times I been on my vampire (prae) I truelocked them, Granted it was arena but still, didn't damage them out
And I didn't use all the Blood things like people do.
Just eat kelp.
Edit: and feed is less viable now due to writhe stacking changes. Granted if you can do it once then it puts them on a clock and they only have so long before they lose, but it's one of those things that shouldn't work with good curing.
I'm jaded, of course, but it's why I put Consanguine classes into the category of -Artifact required-.
Of course, this was pre-Teradrim revamp. With that, if they didn't pre-restore, they were dead after your quad-break was set up. It's how I killed off so many 100+ at Lv. 80 before pre-restore became a more widespread thing.
Abhorash says, "Ve'kahi has proved that even bastards can earn their place."
Thanks.
This all looks epic. I am going to be relearning a lot.
Thanks for the hard work
Abhorash says, "Ve'kahi has proved that even bastards can earn their place."
As in: With the changes these are all now no use
Thank you
Abhorash says, "Ve'kahi has proved that even bastards can earn their place."
For old vampire players, worth re-reading the Sanguis files over. Some of the skills have the same names but different effects. For example, the Blood Poison affliction now slows herb/pipe/salve balances by 0.3s for each of 3 different cure trees that the target has afflictions in, up to 0.9s slowdown. It also uses eq instead of bal, so you can combo it with slash, rend, and so on.
Sileris time was increased to 7 seconds, so the window to grab Feed or Feast after Deadbreath or your minion removes sileris is somewhat wider. Minion uses its mutation every 4th attack, so it's predictable. Use Thirst on your weapon before a fight, it'll drain blood passively from the target on every weapon hit all the way down to 50%.
During spar testing, tended to go like this:
- Insidiae is the heaviest aff route. I like this the most, probably because it was easiest to use. Blood poison + Pillar can grab you a lock, if given time to pile on affs to supplement Poison. You might not even need the Pillar, if you get in a good Poison. You can probably also grind down blood levels with Deadbreath + Feed, while using the slowdown to curing to maintain the physical aff needed for you to Feed.
- Phreneses seems to be aimed towards supporting a different blood-drain route, with Spew being comboable with slashes. It's a bit trickier. You could do like asthma+noblind+nodeaf in a single attack while Spew is off cooldown (15s). If you do that while they're off on their curing balances, they have a choice on their next eat: eat to cure asthma and avoid being locked on your the next attack, or eat to cure noblind and avoid mesmerize. If you get a mesmerize in on a no sileris target (Deadbreath before the Spew combo or run a sileris strip minion), you can Feast for a massive blood drain (not sure how it scales, but seemed to be almost 50% blood drain.).
- Rituos seems like a pretty traditional vampire mana drain route. Pile in lots of affs, wear down sip pools, then Seize (basically same as Mindburrow but with better mana damage scaling per aff). Familiar stuff.
Probably a lot of stuff we didn't think of during the testing, but that's how we used them. The testing was done on a laggy server, so no doubt the numbers will be toned one way or another once they see more use on live.