Lore questions.

Imvra

You are very welcome! I will continue to provide answers to any I see, so long as they aren't too Spoilery!

Alas, while terribly fearsome, Omei is indeed aligned with Spirit. She is the wild child that her older siblings look on with concern and a little envy.

Vyxsis

lalala can't hear you over the sound of omei being a shadow sleeper agent lalala

edit: pls somebody get it y'all been killing me lately

Steele

token tradein for imvra plush

A plush of whom?

@Imvra Do you really exist? Deep lore.

Teani

@Leana. You mentioned Galleus as a superior, though, and as stated above, Galleus' transition was more meta than anything else (he became a producer and a new God emerged to take that spot, not very immersive). The Hall messages still refer to Varian, leaving Galleus completely out of this part.

Imvra

Steele said:

token tradein for imvra plush

A plush of whom?

@Imvra Do you really exist? Deep lore.

Immortalized in written word and unborn in forming thought. I exist and have yet to come into being.

Spooky.

@Steele
The benevolent staff have gifted Me a plush to prove My existence.

Kelliara

@Imvra - Finish the sentence please:

"An euscuchianthrope, a korakanthrope and a sakaraeletus walk into a bar..."

Imvra

...and say ouch!

I'm a Lorekeeper, not a comedian!

Kelliara

Don't sell yourself short, I got a chuckle.

Edit: Really, though, I was trying to be clever and had it backfire.

Touche, Imvra. Touche.

Tekias

For those who are lost: A what, what, and what walk into a fine Spirean dining establishment?

Kelliara

Tekias said:

For those who are lost: A what, what, and what walk into a fine Spirean dining establishment?

Three different kinds of Shapeshifters.

Tekias

Figured as much, but which is which?

Steele

Euscuchianthrope is werecroc, korakanthrope is wereraven, I have no idea what a sakaraeletus is

Steele

@Imvra What are the normal features of a pixie? We know that they are another one of Khepri's child races, along with the imps and preceded by the kobolds and goblins, but do they have any notable lore? Are there any pixie civilisations, or were they all enslaved in the war of Sehal? What are their usual features?

Will they ever be a player race?

Imvra

There is a new book in the Grand Library about the races, tangentially!

Pixies are short, under four feet. They have angular faces with larger eyes and smaller noses. Their wings are diaphanous and glossy, more like a dragonfly than the powder of a butterfly. Whatever colour their natural hair is correlates to their wings, which has more natural variety than most of the other mortal races, including berry shades of reds and purples.

Pixie civilization collapsed over the wars with the Imps, further suppressed between the passing of other, larger empires. Impish efforts of Pixie erasure were very successful over the centuries.

I can neither confirm that they will become a player race, nor deny the possibility down the road. They are not currently on the agenda. More of their lore and culture would be released with the race, to give a starting point beyond Impish enslavement.

Steele

Would the Duamvi be considered Spirit elementals? If not, are there such things as elementals of Spirit and Shadow?

Imvra

Duamvi are not elementals, but could be considered an elemental race (there is a big difference!). If there is an element, there is an elemental. Whether they manifest in Prime, and where, is another matter.

Axius

@Imvra I heard a rumor that grecht lay eggs. Is there any truth to this? People tend to point at the fact that there are baby grecht crawling all over eggs in one of the grecht settlements, but with how often Grecht and those bird mounts associate with each other, I would've thought that maybe they were raised/cared for together or something.

Imvra

Yes, Grecht lay eggs. They aren't hard shells, but more like leathery sacks. Appetizing!


P.S. This predates Me and was not My Idea
P.P.S. Razmael also wants you to know that it predates Him too.

Zaila

@irmva

Can we get a comprehensive list of which humanoid species are live bearers and which are egg layers? 

And for live bearers, are all human-esque gestational cycles, or is there variation?

For egg layers, how long do those eggs need to incubate, and are there any particularly interesting incubation methods? 

Aishia

Don't count my eggs before they hatch.

Steele

Pregnancy RP™

Now backed up by canon, admin-supplied details.

Imvra

This is a difficult subject that we have historically avoided being public about for various professional and personal reasons.

This is not a hill we want to die on. I am still deciding how to approach this.

Some things interfere with existing player decisions. Others...require a certain tact that takes some time to copy-edit, when it comes to pregnancy and baby roleplay and the things we are exposed to and recovering from.

Toz

Translation "We've seen some stuff, man. The horror, the horror..."
On a non-baby note, what is the deal with racial relics. By canon do some people just have a billion wings and tentacles and crazy kangaroo pouches, and if so is there a way we can see a list of someone's racial relics?

Zaila

Re: not wanting to interfere with player decisions, totally understandable - especially since players themselves haven't been doing things "wrong" on purpose and no one wants to offend a player (or get the ire of a player) who was doing the best they could to do things "correctly" with what little data they had at the time. 

The current IC "how do we explain why different members of the same species seem to have different reproductive cycles" is "uh... Endgame, you know, it messes everything up" (since pretty much everyone is endgame). As a suggestion of how to appease those crazies of us who want biology data without possibly pissing off all those who've been RPing it different all
this time would be to have a 30 second event something like:

Some God shout at some silly, tricksy pixie "Stop it! Give that jar back, it might have something dangerous!"
the pixie shouts "No you can't make me!"
A couple bits of back and forth until:
Pixie: "If I can't have it - EVERYONE GETS IT!"
Then, some magical sparkle dust is released in a worldmote, 'settling over everyone in the land'
then everyone gets a little message (those not logged in get it popped into their messages)
'You feel a funny tingling in your nethers as your biology is reset'
Gods: "Oh, THAT'S the dust you stole, whatever, we thought it was something important, nevermind.
"
Then some NPC researcher can post into public that "We've studied the dusts affects, and it seems to have realigned everyone's biology *just slightly*. It seems not to affect currently pregnant individuals, but immediately takes affect after the uterus is evacuated."
Then, in concurrence, post in ANNOUNCE that you've updated racial data and where people can find it if they're crazy enough to care.

VOILA! No one's too grumpy, no one gets to complain that their RP was invalidated and there's an IC explanation!

Imvra

I will say that the nine month gestation and live birth is the norm, with minor fluctuation depending upon subfamily (Menedu may take a little longer, Zao Sazi a little less). Humans were the new general template the Gods mostly worked from, when it came to creating the other races. While not particularly appropriate for the complexities of races, in a way they are Mr. Potato Heads that have been given some custom parts to suit the God's vision or needs.

This is referenced in the newly released book in the Grand Library, but it is worth reinforcing: Sapience's races are design iterations rather than an evolution of development. They are shaped from elements and essence with a purpose.

Vyxsis

i'm looking forward to being consulted about all things Bug

(also, please don't force-change everyone's biology. that's the sort of detail that's so general and mundane that if it's not been addressed in canon by now - over a decade into the game's existence - it clearly doesn't need to be. 'regional variance' is an easy enough [and pretty realistic] explanation for all sorts of differences, so there's just really, really, really no need or reason to box this up. like, it's not core world canon, right? some people doing live birth while others lay eggs isn't an issue on par with, e.g., me deciding that actually the indorani are kitten enthusiasts who want to Lisa-Frank-ify the world. right? right?? why is there so much desire to lock down aspects of the world that aren't core/world-breaking and have been the playgrounds of beautiful player creativity ??????????????????????????? i don't get this at all?????????????????????????!!!???????????????)

Kandara

Okay, this is going to sound weird. I've been trying to ask ICly but have since given up. But I need the answer.

Where is Golgotha's harem? lol, I'm sorry. But 800+ wives and there's not a single one in sight on the Chaos Plane. On top of that, which one is his favorite/what is she like/who is she, if the favorite doesn't change every 5 seconds? My head canon was that this favorite wife is either extremely powerful, sassy, and all that or she's really shy, soft, and fluffy, no in-betweens. If I can get the answer ICly I would adore that because it would be really funny rp, but this is good too if that's not a possibility lol.

Iazamat

I don't think it physically exists within the game, but it's a part of the Chaos Plane that mortals don't have access to, is my guess. I also imagine it's just additional lore to Golgotha, but it's not been fleshed out beyond "it's a thing!"

Leana

Kandara said:

Okay, this is going to sound weird. I've been trying to ask ICly but have since given up. But I need the answer.

Where is Golgotha's harem? lol, I'm sorry. But 800+ wives and there's not a single one in sight on the Chaos Plane. On top of that, which one is his favorite/what is she like/who is she, if the favorite doesn't change every 5 seconds? My head canon was that this favorite wife is either extremely powerful, sassy, and all that or she's really shy, soft, and fluffy, no in-betweens. If I can get the answer ICly I would adore that because it would be really funny rp, but this is good too if that's not a possibility lol.

It's IN from where he's standing. It's called 'Harem'

Vyxsis

here's my lore question:

where is The Hundred Dead hidden? please send the answer to me via dm