I think we're laboring under the perception that salt is going to stop even when things are symmetricly balanced via mirrors.
People complained in an event that allowed you to opt out. People will find ways to do mental gymnastics to justify hating on something, even when they have access to it, simply because they don't like the person who used it on them or they lost to it.
I've said this before, but mirrors aren't going to solve this problem. Might curtail it maybe, but it'll still be around.
I think most of us have admitted that it's not going to magically remove the salt, but lessen it.
Copperhead of the Third Spoke says to you, "Intelligence matrix in moniker Bulrok reveals above average results when compared alongside proximal presence."
I know they're not ready yet but I just want to declare how ungodly excited I am for the promised spoilers. Even a nugget. Hoo boy I want these mirrors so bad. I have been hyping myself up about coding a new class for days. I'm putting "Zealot" in my letter to Santa, who is real and do not @ me if you are a dirty non-believer.
A low, sultry voice resounds within the depths of your mind, "I look forward to seeing your descent."
Alright, I'm not tallying atm because I switched to coding. BUT, here are the skillsets I'm currently working on. Well, me coding, and my wonderful volunteers making pretty. Because me no always wordify gud.
Alright, I'm not tallying atm because I switched to coding. BUT, here are the skillsets I'm currently working on. Well, me coding, and my wonderful volunteers making pretty. Because me no always wordify gud.
Riving
Chirography
Manifestation
Ancestry
Communion
[redacted]ship
This is more than I expected and everything I wanted. I'm satiated. Thanks.
A low, sultry voice resounds within the depths of your mind, "I look forward to seeing your descent."
Where's all the crazy speculation?! Alright, I'll go first.
I think it's a distant possibility Syssin are getting a mirror now, but I'll tell you my wild, very optimistic guess anyways:
ANCESTRY
The Syssin, lorewise, are one of the oldest established Guilds around, having been founded in the Ankyrean era. Their ancestors are very important to them. It's heavily implied that Syssin either: 1) don't go to the Underhalls, staying trapped somewhere on Sapience or some other place (check the skill WARDING, as well as guild lore) OR 2) have some power to exert and project their wills beyond the Underhalls.
With this in mind, it's possible to assume that instead of an angel, a Syssin could summon an ancestor, an elder ghost of a Syssin to fight alongside of them. That's right. I'm guessing syssinLuminary. This would replace Spirituality.
COMMUNION
This would be about communing with those ancestors, paying tribute to them and continuing to uphold the traditions. This would replace Righteousness, and serve as syssinLumi's offensive set; they pay communion to their ancestors by shedding the blood of their enemies.
KINSHIP
Yeah that's right. Tiur redacted the word KIN specifically to screw with us. It's not a dead giveaway at all, he just wanted to make us paranoid. Kinship would replace Devotion. The Syssin would use their raw, magical willpower to place oaths within a room that would bestow positive effects on their allies, or negative effects on their enemies.
With this new batch of information, Riving sounds like Dhuriv -- and the opposite with Ancestry, Communion, etc. sounds like Sentinel, as Sentinels have hardcore ancestor worship/ties baked into their lore.
So I'm thinking with that information, Archivists are getting Riving, Chirography, and Manifestation. Riving sounds like a Dhuriv parallel. Chirography is probably magical traps and what not. Manifestation is probably their ents.
Sentinels will be getting spirit!Archivist to have a more lore-focused class in their ranks, which is really nice for them honestly and fits them fairly well.
No more ridiculous than any other theory - and honestly I like this take on ShadowLumi much more than DaRk PriEsTs.
(Un?)fortunately, with the right mix of creativity and paranoia it becomes easy to spin this set of names into a version of almost any class for either side - THIS IS ALMOST WORSE THAN KNOWING NOTHING AUGH.
After a lot of back and forth, I've been given permission by @Tiur to share what the -ship skillset is due to the number of great guesses in this thread. You guys deserve it.
Real talk I'm actually holding out hope that these are out of order and it's Chirography/Manifestation/Showmanship for a wacky version of Indorani that uses card tricks, illusions, and performance magic like a real-world magician. Obviously vivisect would be a good old-fashioned sawed-in-half gag but then you don't put them back together.
I'll need to poke the class slot code a bit for cost reasons, but it's like the Zealots. You don't get both classes for being in the guild, the guild just has two entry classes.
Pretty sure revenants are going to be an archivist thing. Would be weird for a non-Spirean guild to get something that talks about Ankyreans and, the mention of 'precipice of sanity' immediately makes me think Archivist.
I still want Revenant to be Sentinel in the Archivists but it's hard for me to reconcile Chirography. I could see it being Templar, Zealot, and Lumi too and that's giving me a lot of trouble.
A low, sultry voice resounds within the depths of your mind, "I look forward to seeing your descent."
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People complained in an event that allowed you to opt out. People will find ways to do mental gymnastics to justify hating on something, even when they have access to it, simply because they don't like the person who used it on them or they lost to it.
I've said this before, but mirrors aren't going to solve this problem. Might curtail it maybe, but it'll still be around.
Some mirror spoilers
Hi.
I think it's a distant possibility Syssin are getting a mirror now, but I'll tell you my wild, very optimistic guess anyways:
ANCESTRY
The Syssin, lorewise, are one of the oldest established Guilds around, having been founded in the Ankyrean era. Their ancestors are very important to them. It's heavily implied that Syssin either: 1) don't go to the Underhalls, staying trapped somewhere on Sapience or some other place (check the skill WARDING, as well as guild lore) OR 2) have some power to exert and project their wills beyond the Underhalls.
With this in mind, it's possible to assume that instead of an angel, a Syssin could summon an ancestor, an elder ghost of a Syssin to fight alongside of them. That's right. I'm guessing syssinLuminary. This would replace Spirituality.
COMMUNION
This would be about communing with those ancestors, paying tribute to them and continuing to uphold the traditions. This would replace Righteousness, and serve as syssinLumi's offensive set; they pay communion to their ancestors by shedding the blood of their enemies.
KINSHIP
Yeah that's right. Tiur redacted the word KIN specifically to screw with us. It's not a dead giveaway at all, he just wanted to make us paranoid. Kinship would replace Devotion. The Syssin would use their raw, magical willpower to place oaths within a room that would bestow positive effects on their allies, or negative effects on their enemies.
Okay. Yeah. It's ridiculous and unlikely. Sue me!
Wait until you get to hear about...
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With this new batch of information, Riving sounds like Dhuriv -- and the opposite with Ancestry, Communion, etc. sounds like Sentinel, as Sentinels have hardcore ancestor worship/ties baked into their lore.
So I'm thinking with that information, Archivists are getting Riving, Chirography, and Manifestation. Riving sounds like a Dhuriv parallel. Chirography is probably magical traps and what not. Manifestation is probably their ents.
Sentinels will be getting spirit!Archivist to have a more lore-focused class in their ranks, which is really nice for them honestly and fits them fairly well.
Riving - dhuriv
It is the Indiana Jones of the Archivium and I want it so bad.
I disagree with Nisavi about what spirit is getting. I will keep that close to my chest.
This is how I now picture Saidenn. Thank you, @Rijetta.
(Un?)fortunately, with the right mix of creativity and paranoia it becomes easy to spin this set of names into a version of almost any class for either side - THIS IS ALMOST WORSE THAN KNOWING NOTHING AUGH.
The __manship hint is truly the most obfuscating of teasers, as Church said. My hat goes off to you, Tiur.
(I do agree that it is shadow Sentinel tho)
The -ship skill is...
...known by the name...
Okay serious guess. Is it.. worship?
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(no one can convince me otherwise that the Revenants are going to be Spirit/Dhar related and the Wardens a Spines/Shadow based class)