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But that's my point - this game is about player relations. This is a more broad topic, but I admit to feeling rather frustrated when I put a lot of effort in to make my city or guild better and then I see admin helping out other orgs when they don't invest the same amount of energy. You should be able to make your org stand out and offer a better quality of life to the members - be that through shops or activities or recognition or whatever - if you devote time and energy to it. If you do a lot to improve your org and then see admin offer similar things to other orgs, without them even thinking to ask for it, it really takes the wind out of your sails and unfairly equalizes things.
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Creating things for your orgs is a valid part of gameplay. Making your org a vibrant place with cool things is a valid part of gameplay. I don't see how one org spending effort where others don't is a broken mechanic - a large part of the game, especially for the leadership types, is building up your orgs and making them strong. Undercutting this by having admin/mechanics bolster the orgs that don't invest effort completely kills motivation for that sort of gameplay. Why bother knocking yourself out if the admin will give weaker orgs the same stuff anyways?Anyways, this is all tangential. Suffice it to say, I don't think mechanics are needed to completely monitor/cover stuff. Give players more tools and we'll handle a lot of things - and many of us play Aetolia for the enjoyment that comes from doing that. Give us more shops and let us build org shops on org property and if orgs still don't offer a lot of range of supply, that's an IC, RP issue about how an org isn't supporting their members or encouraging their merchants.
In the same vein, really, why should shopkeepers who bust their butts to ensure their shops are stocked be knocked in their business by NPC merchants? I spend a lot of time ensuring that stuff remains consistently stocked - one big aspect of running an active, profitable shop is ensuring that stuff is there, often. If I slack off and don't keep vital stuff stocked, people stop coming there. I was gone for a few days and I instantly saw a dip in business. You have to basically earn customers through consistent service until they associate your shop in their mind as the go-to spot for certain stuff. I don't think it would be fun or fair to offer NPCs that do the same thing.
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Heck, if you really want something like that you can always poke me, you know I've already helped the Carnifex out a lot.
I had no idea you were doing anything even remotely similar to what I was, Moirean. I'm sorry if your patron or whatever is inactive and can't do cool stuff but it hardly seems fair to blame me. Also I'm doing it for Enorian and Duiran, and have been for the past over a month now.Heck, if you really want something like that you can always poke me, you know I've already helped the Carnifex out a lot.
On one hand you say Maghak is your patron and you're happy with him, and then you follow it up and say 'we can't expect to compete with the sort of things Gods can bring to orgs'. Maghak can do this for you, I'm sure if you just asked him... or you can slam a volunteer for doing something cool for his orgs.
Also, I wouldn't call us the weaker orgs. I'd take Spinesreach versus Enorian 1 on 1 any day. It's Loch that causes the issues :P
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The Teradrim leadership got that way because of a massive metagame campaign that was extremely embarrassing, to say the least. I tend to avoid bringing anything to do with that guild up in polite company because there are a few topics that I cannot speak politely about (see: Carnifex class, raids on Christmas morning/eve, etc.) - and so in the interest of not driving people absolutely insane, I don't touch 'em. I say all that to say this: Teradrim is a highly atypical example.
@Xavin: I didn't say that by helping org x that they're hurting org y (orgy?) - just that by helping org x, they're giving an advantage that org y doesn't necessarily have. The fairness is, obviously, up for debate - though I tend to be of the mind that if an admin is helping an org simply because that org currently sucks, I wish they'd make a point to go throw a bone to the orgs doing well as a reward for doing well. Naturally, I don't have much control (any, or we'd be in year 3 of Carnifex revamp and the class isn't even 3 years old) of what people do, but I do have my preferences.