Townhall - Future

TiurTiur ProducerMember, Administrator, Immortal Posts: 280 admin
edited August 23 in Harpy's Head Tavern
Alright! I'm going to pretend I know what's going on now and that we can move on from the honeymoon phase and get into some serious work. I would, however, like to give you all a chance to ask me and guide me towards what's important to YOU.

So we'll have a townhall. But it will be a softball, with pre-chosen questions of a sort. That's the point of this thread. A problem is timing, we have a lot of timezones and people have jobs, etc. So, mostly pre-done questions and we'll post the results. We're looking at mid to late August. And if this works, twitch after that. We'll pick the date once this thread reaches steady state. (um.. that's chemist for 'no more changes because all input/output balances')

What I need from you:

Let's generate some topics, and rate them in rank of importance. By the end of this thread let's have 5-10 topics to discuss and ask questions within. I usually answer questions willy nilly, but for this, I'll promise higher grade answers than normal. There will be questions within these topics during the live townhall... so while it's fine to put in the questions you want hit on a topic, know that we'll be having admin x player feedback during the actual townhall and let things rise up organically too.

I'll be moderating this pretty heavily. Every couple posts I'll chime in with a reorganized list based on what you guys have been saying. I'll also bring things back on topic pretty viciously.
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NOTE FORBIDDEN TOPICS:

I'm not comfortable promising things by X date. To be frank, I don't have the experience to accurately gauge the difficulty of a project before we embark. I think I've done a good job of making sure the things I talk about actually happen, but there will be things that come off as impossible.

Overarching storyline. There have been leaks and discussions of this before, but I'm not taking that path. I will not answer you if you ask me where we're going with Albedos, or what Severn's really up to.

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Current Topic/Questions of import:
1. PvE
  • There was talk some time back of raid bosses and complex instances being developed to make bashing more challenging and to encourage grouping. Is this still in the works?
  • How do you feel about the grindy nature of bashing? Is it something you wish to pull away from or continue to embrace?
  • How do you feel about players being confined to 1-3 skills when killing mobs? Is this something you'd consider exploring?
  • If yes, I'm not sure if you're familiar with the Thrims from the Kerrithrim event that controlled players and made people involuntarily attack/kill others but would it be possible to construct an NPC Veteran that can PK players and vice versa? While making all our skills useable for bashing would probably be a massive undertaking and maybe not worth the investment, I wonder if it'd be possible to make a handful of NPCs that roam the game that players can kill/challenge for small special achievements or something.
  • Boats and more world!
  • Hunting skills?
  • Plans for difficulty increases?
  • Ylem as a mechanic, currency, tool, etc.
  • Random encounters?
2. EVENTS/RP
  • RP vs Mechanical
  • My feelings on it
  • Frequency
  • Player direction as to the future and where their orgs are going
  • Factions and how I see them/plan for their use
  • Future for Cults, views, etc
  • Do we have any events forthcoming in the near future? The most recent Sapience wide event kept us on our toes, kept us engaged, and was quite entertaining and interesting.
3. Guild/City combination Requirements & Orgreqs
  • while there's not a huge outlier, it seems like quite a few oldbies have been able to stay in their guild while in another city
  • More discussion of orgreqs and RP direction
5. Conflict/War/PvP
  • Since the removal of the war system, PvP has become detached from the overarching story and thus the core of the game. While I understand implementing a new and improved war system is a massive undertaking, are there any other conflict systems that you have in the works in the mean time?
  • Will Order Wars be looked at and revamped at some point? Or are you content with its current design?
  • Will city raiding be looked at? Is that even something you guys want in the game?
  • Ylem Aura and PvP Rules. Will there be a revision upon them or you are satisfied with how they are?
6. Endgame
  • This might be a giant can of worms but what kind of content are you hoping to develop for players that reach this point in the game?
  • Do you intend to make endgame more unique than it currently is?
  • What about Haven Points and Havens in general?
  • Commonality of endgame stuff and balancing towards it. Changes?
7. Advertising/Retention
  • What's the plan on getting new blood into the game? I recall IRE utilizing Kongregate and other advertisements in the past. Any similar plans in the future?
  • Has IRE considered tackling the writing community like NaNo for new recruits? I recall someone mentioning that the advertisements didn't yield enough to warrant the costs or something. I'm mostly curious as to what markets were being targeted. (Don't really expect an answer for this one lol)
  • What originally drew me to Aetolia was an ad and the overall presentation of the game. I never tried a mud before Aetolia and it really blew me out of the water. As I played, the biggest draw for me became the rich story and unique conflict systems at the time. Finally, a game where the players appeared to really be in control! The possibilities felt endless. As the grandeur faded though - what kept me for the longest time ultimately was the community. Eventually that didn't feel like enough to no fault of their own to keep me here. I often think about why and I have many theories but one that comes to the forefront often is this feeling of reaching the ceiling so to speak. As players gradually master different or all aspects of the game, I guess my question to you is, what would be your approach to tackling the issue of the "ceiling" and the feeling of what now? How do you plan to do to keep the game fresh and engaging?
  • Cost of entry/skills.
  • As of late, it appears that the lifer's participation has waned. Without giving away any big secrets, what are the future plans to breathe new life into these two cities and/or their guilds/classes?
8. Player shops / ECONOMY
  • How do you feel about the limited shopping system here?
  • Is there any chance that more shops will be added to the game?
  • Would you be open to removing shops all together in favor of an Auction House or Marketplace style system instead?
  • Repair skills? Broader armor system?
  • Clearly we need to discuss commodities and gold sources
9. Explorers
  • Are you going to fix the broken or inaccessible areas?
10. Misc
  • Emus
  • Fruit
  • Kitsune - Apparently I'm serious about this now
  • Flavor vs Mechanical skillz
  • Celani apps
  • Todo: Unlease man-eating pumpkins
  • Teasers for Ascendril/Sciomancer changes
11. Rogueness
  • ylem/refining
  • Neutral support
The above list will be updated as we go with what the actual topics are. And I'll put a change date below this so you can see the last time I trawled the thread.
  • Summarized updates on July 23
  • Summarized and reorganized July 26
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Comments

  • TozToz Member Posts: 2,153 ✭✭✭✭✭
    To the surprise of absolutely no one, I'd love to know about when guilds are getting strictly locked to city - while there's not a huge outlier, it seems like quite a few oldbies have been able to stay in their guild while in another city and I thought that was something that was getting changed ASAP, given the Carnifex had their movement event months ago.
    (Oasis): Azzello says, "I'll still never forget the first time I saw Toz throwing hammers."
    (Oasis): Azzello says, "I freaked out and thought they had somehow managed to pull me into them."
    (Oasis): Azzello says, "So I tumbled away from my team and into theirs."


    XeniaPhendegwen
  • HavenHaven World Burner Flight SchoolMember Posts: 2,226 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Some things I'd like to see addressed in some form:

    1. Conflict / War
    • Since the removal of the war system, PvP has become detached from the overarching story and thus the core of the game. While I understand implementing a new and improved war system is a massive undertaking, are there any other conflict systems that you have in the works in the mean time?
    • Will Order Wars be looked at and revamped at some point? Or are you content with its current design?
    • Will city raiding be looked at? Is that even something you guys want in the game?


    2. Player Shops / Auction House
    • How do you feel about the limited shopping system here?
    • Is there any chance that more shops will be added to the game?
    • Would you be open to removing shops all together in favor of an Auction House or Marketplace style system instead?
    3. PvE / Bashing Upgrade
    • There was talk some time back of raid bosses and complex instances being developed to make bashing more challenging and to encourage grouping. Is this still in the works?
    • How do you feel about the grindy nature of bashing? Is it something you wish to pull away from or continue to embrace?
    • How do you feel about players being confined to 1-3 skills when killing mobs? Is this something you'd consider exploring?
    • If yes, I'm not sure if you're familiar with the Thrims from the Kerrithrim event that controlled players and made people involuntarily attack/kill others but would it be possible to construct an NPC Veteran that can PK players and vice versa? While making all our skills useable for bashing would probably be a massive undertaking and maybe not worth the investment, I wonder if it'd be possible to make a handful of NPCs that roam the game that players can kill/challenge for small special achievements or something.
    4. Endgame Content
    • This might be a giant can of worms but what kind of content are you hoping to develop for players that reach this point in the game?
    • Do you intend to make endgame more unique than it currently is?
    • What about Haven Points and Havens in general?
    5. Retention / Advertisements
    • What's the plan on getting new blood into the game? I recall IRE utilizing Kongregate and other advertisements in the past. Any similar plans in the future?
    • Has IRE considered tackling the writing community like NaNo for new recruits? I recall someone mentioning that the advertisements didn't yield enough to warrant the costs or something. I'm mostly curious as to what markets were being targeted. (Don't really expect an answer for this one lol)
    • What originally drew me to Aetolia was an ad and the overall presentation of the game. I never tried a mud before Aetolia and it really blew me out of the water. As I played, the biggest draw for me became the rich story and unique conflict systems at the time. Finally, a game where the players appeared to really be in control! The possibilities felt endless. As the grandeur faded though - what kept me for the longest time ultimately was the community. Eventually that didn't feel like enough to no fault of their own to keep me here. I often think about why and I have many theories but one that comes to the forefront often is this feeling of reaching the ceiling so to speak. As players gradually master different or all aspects of the game, I guess my question to you is, what would be your approach to tackling the issue of the "ceiling" and the feeling of what now? How do you plan to do to keep the game fresh and engaging?
    ¤ Si vis pacem, para bellum. ¤
    Someone powerful says, "We're going to have to delete you."
    havenbanner2
    KodazaVashVyxsisTeani
  • JaymiJaymi Member Posts: 78 ✭✭✭
    As an explorer, I know a lot of areas aren't fully available because they haven't either been released or parts have been cut off over time and not pulled from counting towards explorers. I know this seems like a small thing, but especially with the latter part, would there ever be a chance to have this fixed?

    Teani
  • AnnabethAnnabeth AtlantaMember Posts: 9
    We should come up with a good way to bring in new players, would love to talk about what we are doing to improve and grow the player base. I know a big reason my friends won't play is because of the cost. Perhaps we can come up with some ideas to make the cost more appealing to newer players? Maybe just more lesson packages that are priced better, so you guys can still profit well off artifacts?
  • RijettaRijetta Nowhere ImportantMember Posts: 49 ✭✭✭
    how do i get that op kitsune race

    With regards to what @Kodaza said, I think there are currently classes that DO have those nice little fluff skills -- Corpus, for example, has at least three skills whose only benefit is RP (and that's fine!). It would be nice to see, or perhaps have things pointed out to us that we're missing, more of that in other classes.

    For questions related to the Town Hall, I was speaking with someone recently about wanting to see more RP events. Since you've taken over, we've had the vampire stuff (which was cool!) and the cooking things (which I didn't partake of). I'd really like to see you stretching your limbs with some more frequent events, though, however minor or major. I realize, of course, these things take exorbitant amounts of time to plan and to prepare and even then no plan survives contact with the players, but I think with your transparency and the general goodwill you've shown towards players, things could go well.

    so, I guess my question/comment is, do you have plans for more frequent RP events, even ones that lead into more/changed mechanics? Or, in general, could we talk about RP and its importance to Aetolia, and where you stand on the matter?
    A low, sultry voice resounds within the depths of your mind, "I look forward to seeing your descent."
    VashVyxsisTeani
  • AishiaAishia Queen Bee Member Posts: 1,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1. Emus
    2. Flightless birds
    3. More Fruit.
    4. ???
    5. Profit.




    Phendegwen
  • RasaniRasani Member Posts: 119 ✭✭✭
    I've noticed that a lot of the changes lately have a lot to do with pvp/conflict and less to do with lore. I've also noticed there's a few subjects we've been told we can't touch upon in orgreqs (I was told explicitly that I can't use Duamvi lore in a Duamvi based guild) because we're moving away from them. Can we expect to be given a bit of focus on where we -should- be heading in the future? Building up PvP and conflict is good for the business of the game I'm sure, but it feels a little like we're losing focus in lore/story aspects of the game and I'm hoping we can keep enough room and attention for both.
    TeaniMariena
  • PhendegwenPhendegwen Member Posts: 33 ✭✭✭
    It would be wrong if I didn't ask about boats. Can we have boats? I will never give up on boats. Never.

    Also I have to ask can we more fumology ingredients please. And can we have perfumes as a new fumology item.

    And yes. I know how important these topics are. (Not very.)
    RijettaAxiusMarienaErzsebet
  • TiurTiur Producer Member, Administrator, Immortal Posts: 280 admin
    Okay, brief pause here while I gather up the above posts and put them in the op. Do note that this is sort of a voting thing, if you want to chime in "I agree with @Phendegwen", that's valuable too, and I'll raise said posts' topics in importance.
  • TiurTiur Producer Member, Administrator, Immortal Posts: 280 admin
    Okay. I've summarized in some places, copy pasted in others. Feel free to push for different phrasings. I think in the townhall I'll end up going by topics, letting people come up with specific questions... but the questions here, I'll use as a guideline to make sure I hit the points you want.

    Some of these things are really small, or a request for things. Feel free to move some of them to Small Questions or one of the idea threads. I really do read those.
  • RijettaRijetta Nowhere ImportantMember Posts: 49 ✭✭✭
    In that case, I'd like to bump @Rasani re: more open knowledge about orgreqs and lore and @Haven about endgame. Those are both things I'd really like to hear more about.
    A low, sultry voice resounds within the depths of your mind, "I look forward to seeing your descent."
    Vyxsis
  • SatomiSatomi Member Posts: 225 ✭✭✭
    In regard to the question about NPC Veterans that murder players, I know Imperian has a system where if you kill an NPC leader, or named NPC, there's a chance that a 'hit' will be called out on you, which is a mob that basically paths to you and tries to kill you. Any interest in that?

    While I won't ask for specifics, or deadlines, is there an interest or general theme you might have for differentiating the Magi classes (Ascendril/Sciomancer)?

    -------

    Would you be interested in implementing a talent that is almost identical to fishing, except it revolves around hunting animals?

    I started MUDding in Imperian, so 70% of my ideas are likely to originate from things that are there.. with that said, is there an interest in adding in the need to repair your gear, limb-specific armor, and the amazon class? (wtb groinkick)

    Last couple questions are only playfully serious.

    Rasani
  • JaymiJaymi Member Posts: 78 ✭✭✭
    I agree with more flavor/utility skills. Seriously, I love all those little things so much. Lip reading and insight and things like that make this game so much fun for me, and yeah, more endgame content is always appreciated.

    Runas
  • PhendegwenPhendegwen Member Posts: 33 ✭✭✭
    Regarding the eventual city and guild changes- any thoughts about making a 'sub-guild' of sort in Duiran for shifters, so that shifters of a non-Duiran class wouldn't automatically get sent off to Enorian and could have the option to stay? Lycanthropy has a strong tie to the wilds, and it makes sense for a lycanthrope character to remain close to nature, even if they are part of an Enorian guild. (Yes, there's a lot of self-interest here being an Illuminai Bahkatu in Duiran, but, maybe there's other non-Duiran guided shifters who would prefer to stay due to shifter RP?)
  • RhyotRhyot BloodlochMember Posts: 179 ✭✭✭
    Since I likely won't be around for the Townhall meeting (disappointing, but yay deployment life), I'm hoping my questions can be answered here.

    1) In your post you mentioned something about a kitsune race, can that really be a thing?

    2) With bashing as simple, mindless, and as easy as it is, are there any plans to make really hard bashing areas that force players to work together, much like what Haven suggested about dungeon crawling areas?

    3) Razmael mentioned that what the Wayfarers do in Albedos is play on Hard Mode when they defend the borders/territories. Can that be a thing we can all get involved in as well? Something like Ciem, only more group PVE based and not PK based, but only the people you started the event with can participate instead of everyone flashmobbing it?

    4) Will prizebags ever be adjusted or fixed to allow that gold sink to actually be worth while?

    5) Will gold gained via bashing get a little more stabilized/lucrative with the recent changes to the curing system and the increased prices/necessity of gold/ash/ice/silver??

    6) With the recent change to vampirism and the Gaes of the Progenitor being an actual negative repercussion, will we see any further punishing factors for non-blooded vampires beyond a simple 1% blood loss?

    7) When is the next set of Celani spots going to be available for players to submit their resumes? Additionally, do you tend to get decent turnouts with those openings?

  • MarienaMariena By a lake. Member, Guildmaster Posts: 588 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wholly support @Phendegwen idea's of boats and added perfumes to fumology!

    I support @Haven idea's 4. Havens/endgames and 5. Advertisement questions. (I do not support idea 2.3, removing shops. I love my shop don't take my shop plz).

    I support @Rasani and questions about more transparent lore ideas.

    Piggybacking off of that - Is there any way to update our wiki with the lore that's happened already? Something like the events posts but in depth? I ask this because a lot of guilds (specifically shamans but others too) have suffered from 'X told Y but it was never written down so no one knows about it but is expected to know about it'. If the current event is done with, it'd be so nice to have a dump of the lore somewhere to reference.


    Runas
  • KodazaKodaza Los AngelesMember Posts: 82 ✭✭✭
    edited July 24
    Since I wound up generating buzz with my post I didn't anticipate, let me restructure it to something more appropriate for the Town Hall and less of a Small Ideas-type "hey, I want this thing" —

    In support of @Haven's question about the limited number of PVE skills, what is the admin perspective on how skills are focused? Currently, most guild skills are overwhelmingly PVP focused. (To be fair, this isn't without good reason, as PK interactions require a certain amount of complexity, and diverse skills are required for that! So don't read this as a complaint.) Do you feel that the current emphasis within skill sets is fine as it is? Or was this already being considered? Or even, is this something you're currently neutral on, and would want to hear more input from us in the future?

    Considering there are a few potential class reworks floating in the ether of Someday, it might be a good Town Hall in general to talk about what a Skill even is, in the current design paradigm. Nothing binding, and nothing that would need to be consistent with other producers or other Town Halls (either past or future). But just the present views at work, in the Tiur-styled transparency (Tiuransparency?) we're all getting used to.
    VyxsisVashSatomiTeani
  • TeaniTeani Evening Sky SwedenMember Posts: 1,854 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I fully and whole-heartedly agree with @Kelliara, on -all- counts.

    @Phendegwen
    Stay connected with Duiran Shifters through a Pack, perhaps?

    I would say that what you are speaking of is essentially your character having a very strong connection with both the Illuminai and Duiran (through your RP as a Shifter/Bear/previous Bahkatu), is it not? You are definitely not alone in that. Look at the Carnifex, plenty of whom has/had a deep connection to the guild as well as Spinesreach. And some older Sciomancers, who haven't been in any other guild (aside from Magi, before the split) and who also have a long history of being Bloodlochians. It puts a strain on all these people, having to choose one over the other.



  • KodazaKodaza Los AngelesMember Posts: 82 ✭✭✭
    For Town Hall purposes, since @Toz's question is on Tiur's posted agenda, we could combine @Phendegwen's with it? Both are essentially asking for an update on the guild/city changes that were set in motion by Oleis.
  • VashVash Member Posts: 114 ✭✭✭
    What is the deal with Ylem?

    In Lusternia my personal power was a vital aspect of my combat capability and it had multiple utility uses. Regaining it was a constant activity and I could see a direct impact if I stopped. Going rogue was a major pain as you would lose access to a link. It was integrated into multiple game systems.

    Here I basically find Ylem to be pointless. If I am lazy I can use a bit to teleport back to my city and I can boost my exp gain slightly. Most of the other powers I have access to would only be helpful in very specific situations. Fighting over foci seems to be intended as a major source of conflict but I am at a loss as to why anyone would bother to fight (and I have yet to see a single battle around a foci).

    Honestly the only reason I bother to gather it is the rather large rewards offered by Spinesreach for it's collection (I have no idea why they are offered, though I suppose there is not much else for the city to invest in so why not?). I also know that a few awesome players are able to gather huge amounts of ylem making my own contributions pointless.

    Am I missing something obvious? Are there plans to change how Ylem works?

    Also what is the deal with ylem madness and the mines? The first time I saw that I thought it was going to be like Lusternia's Insanity system (which I loved) but as far as I can tell it is just RP flavor for why you can only do the quest once a week.

    Typically In Game: JST (GMT+9) 6AM-8AM and 6PM-10PM
  • TeaniTeani Evening Sky SwedenMember Posts: 1,854 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 25
    @Vash
    Ylem powers the research trees for the city. This means that all those things you use now and then, being lazy or whatever, cost upkeep every IG week, being drawn from the city reserves, simply to be accessible to the citizens. There have been times when people have ignored going out in search for Minor or Lesser foci for so long that it's actually been feasible to close down a research tree. This means that a bunch of passive perks are suddenly gone, which impacts your life in things like prices going up (because one perk is that shopkeepers get more gold per purchase) or less gold drops from NPCs when hunting.

    I'm more than willing to explain it ICly, if you want. :smile:



    Vash
  • KelliaraKelliara Member Posts: 469 ✭✭✭✭
    Vash said:

    What is the deal with Ylem?

    In Lusternia my personal power was a vital aspect of my combat capability and it had multiple utility uses. Regaining it was a constant activity and I could see a direct impact if I stopped. Going rogue was a major pain as you would lose access to a link. It was integrated into multiple game systems.

    Here I basically find Ylem to be pointless. If I am lazy I can use a bit to teleport back to my city and I can boost my exp gain slightly. Most of the other powers I have access to would only be helpful in very specific situations. Fighting over foci seems to be intended as a major source of conflict but I am at a loss as to why anyone would bother to fight (and I have yet to see a single battle around a foci).

    Honestly the only reason I bother to gather it is the rather large rewards offered by Spinesreach for it's collection (I have no idea why they are offered, though I suppose there is not much else for the city to invest in so why not?). I also know that a few awesome players are able to gather huge amounts of ylem making my own contributions pointless.

    Am I missing something obvious? Are there plans to change how Ylem works?

    Also what is the deal with ylem madness and the mines? The first time I saw that I thought it was going to be like Lusternia's Insanity system (which I loved) but as far as I can tell it is just RP flavor for why you can only do the quest once a week.

    Working backwards:

    Too much time in the mines DOES do stuff mechanically (the Aetolian version of radiation poisoning).

    The gathering of ylem is done to both maintain current levels of activity, and advance certain areas (modifications most specifically). A lot of the benefits for having a happy pylon a newer player would not notice, or take for granted.

    Some examples include: Higher crit chance, the ability to learn more than 30 lessons at once (60), 50% reduction to building costs for guilds, elimination of fees for using the banks, being able to create an icon (which eliminates God essence loss on death, aside from having a few other nifty functions), arena modifications, funky ylem items like amulets and orbs, the ability to create vigor elixir, ouabain venom, and elementals to rat with, and the presence of the city portals room...

    I could go on, but you get the point. Trust me. You'd notice if some of these things started to disappear.

    If ylem levels start dropping, some of these things deactivate, or have to be turned off to build a surplus up, hence why Spinesreach, as an example, is pretty generous for rewarding people who make a solid effort when it comes to ylem gathering. Because it helps the entire city.
    Now with 253% more Madness.
    Chibi-Kelli by @Eleanor.
    Vash
  • VashVash Member Posts: 114 ✭✭✭
    edited July 25
    Teani said:

    Ylem powers the research trees for the city.

    I know this but these perks are very minor unless I am missing some big passive boost somewhere (which brings up another issue that these benefits are not at all obvious to new players). None of the personal skills I can use have any real gameplay impact on me (again except perhaps for the exp boost).

    It would be interesting to see the stats on the use of research trees and refining skills. I strongly suspect that a majority are very rarely used.

    My comments were more to set the stage for my question on what the plans (if any) are for Ylem as a gameplay system. I personally think there are a lot of issues with it but if a lot of players like it then it would also be good to know as it would not be something the admin should invest in changing.



    Typically In Game: JST (GMT+9) 6AM-8AM and 6PM-10PM
  • PhoeneciaPhoenecia Somewhere in AtticaMember Posts: 475 ✭✭✭✭
    I don't think this has been addressed yet, so I'll stick this here. In regards to Factions, they're a neat aspect of the game, but ultimately they don't really affect much of anything other than distributing cool items for RP or providing exclusive designs for crafting. Any chance there will be factions that have more of an impact on the game? Or factions tied to villages/towns?

    Also, regarding shops, there's a ton sitting out in the refugee camp/Liruma scrubland area after Ashtan went poof that kind of...sit there. Shops are valuable to have, but those are so out of the way and don't really show up on shop directories that they don't really serve much purpose. Any possibility of those getting nuked, relocated, or having that area turned into something useable?
    KelliaraArbreVash
  • KelliaraKelliara Member Posts: 469 ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 25
    Phoenecia said:

    I don't think this has been addressed yet, so I'll stick this here. In regards to Factions, they're a neat aspect of the game, but ultimately they don't really affect much of anything other than distributing cool items for RP or providing exclusive designs for crafting. Any chance there will be factions that have more of an impact on the game? Or factions tied to villages/towns?

    Also, regarding shops, there's a ton sitting out in the refugee camp/Liruma scrubland area after Ashtan went poof that kind of...sit there. Shops are valuable to have, but those are so out of the way and don't really show up on shop directories that they don't really serve much purpose. Any possibility of those getting nuked, relocated, or having that area turned into something useable?

    I can't agree, like and insightful this post all at once, so I'm just going to quote it, because I'd love to see/hear some sort of faction expansion.

    Edit: Oh, there was something in there about shops too. That'd be kinda interesting to have answered too, I s'pose.
    Now with 253% more Madness.
    Chibi-Kelli by @Eleanor.
  • PhendegwenPhendegwen Member Posts: 33 ✭✭✭
    @Kelliara
    Being one of the first Bahkatu when they came out, I know very well about the whole Balance Seams thing- but, although there are shifters who don't play a tie to the Wilds, a lot choose to, and see the madness as instinct overwhelming rational sensibility rather than aberrant (easily logiced given the Seams are a component of the natural world in Aetolia). Everyone who plays a shifter plays their own way, and some characters consider shifting a part of who they are in a more racial sense, rather than just a thing they do for a convenient extra skill that doesn't take a multiclassing spot. But as this discussion is supposed to be about coming up with topics for a townhall discussion rather than arguing game lore this will be my last post on this here, sorry to derail.


    Oh, and please don't nuke our refugee camp shops. Some of us have been paying taxes on those things for RL years hoping that they'd be turned more useful eventually. (Unless I am compensated with a FREE GIANT AIRSHIP. This would assuage the pain. Ah, wishes.)
  • KalakKalak Member Posts: 151 ✭✭✭
    @Vash There are much perks with being able to use Ylem powers. It would be overkill to give further. But some good examples:

    - Ylemcore: That is full health/mana reset, per RL day.
    - Warlock: I am not sure how much damage difference it gives, and possibly could not test right now.
    - Quickassess: You can assess people without needing to lose your equilibrium by using mana, handy in fights.
    - Critical Advantage: That is 5% critical hit chance.
    - Refining Skillset: An entire skillset revolving around Ylem, has some advantages, for example using it for endurance/willpower regeneration. Shell defense, etc.
    - Tokens and Parxian Orbs: They are good mechanical advantages for your effort.
    - Manipulations: Some of them bring more experience (like wisdom) some provides more gold etc. Small skills, some of them are very conditional but there are the options.

    But one thing I can tell, it is a detached, soulless system which does not fit to my RP-PvP mentality. I can feel no drive towards it. I would explain my reservations in detail but perhaps this might not be the proper place.

    Now on the topic of Town Hall stuff:

    1. PvP and Barriers

    - Currently one of the matters with PvP is that it is very skillset/arti intensive on 1 vs 1. Will you be taking steps to alleviate some parts of the power creep? For example; there will be any action towards the dreaded Equilibrium Crown?
    - Holy Wars and overall PvP will see some form of attention in the future? Perhaps some form of soft-war (PvE and minigame activities) and hard-war(sieges, capturing locations, relic possession battles etc.)?
    - Ylem Aura and PvP Rules. Will there be a revision upon them or you are satisfied with how they are?

    2. Roguery

    I know this is not a favourite topic of many because organizational stuff should be endorsed and such. But that is one of the point of interests to me because mercenary, bandit, pirate, freeblade, sellsword, vagabond roles being absent from a dark fantasy game appears a bit awkward to me. For the record I will put forward:

    - Would you be partial to allow some basic necessities such as a general tutor, bank in Esterport (cuts 3% instead of 2% perhaps as a sinkhole) etc.
    - Would you allow limited forms of interacting with the Ylem or Refining Skillset? Or should it remain as a deadweight/non-option without cities?
    - What is your view on conflicts caused by rogues?

    3. Reskinned Classes

    - It was mentioned in a recent thread as a possibility to offer optional reskins of classes, fallen forms of existing classes. How would you proceed with that if you found time for it one day?
    - Instead of lesson forgetting cost, they'd be artifacts which makes the necessary changes?
    - For example, in current Sciomancer/Ascendril case, it could be easy to reskin a Sciomancer or Ascendril since it is only Sciomancy with part of skills which expressly mentions shadow needs to be changed, since Air and Earth are element stuff. Would it be feasible for all classes?
    - Would it help with the balance of the game?

    4. PvE-Questing

    - It is not an easy task but, would you be willing to add NPCs which would go for killing routes legitly? They would of course not be as player-effective but at times they could provide a different outcome.
    - The PvE of IRE games is perhaps the weakest part of it. I am prone to see it like a necessary evil to get by rather then an engaging activity. Will there be any steps towards making PvE more interesting to participate?
    - PvE/quest dangers/encounters on the roads, cities and wilderness perhaps with a bit of chance to occur? Like a dynamic event, you may come across while travelling/exploring. Would it be possible to add? Kinda like you enter a choose your own adventure moment while exploring places. Instead of usual questing, that would make quite the difference.

    5. Misc

    - Will you unleash man-eating pumpkins on the world?
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