Announce post #3182: Shamans

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• Saidenn

  April 2021 edited April 2021

  Will the premonition be attuned to a specific shaman so that every shaman who shows up in a group can't trigger reclamation off of the conditionals? What is the thought process behind moving omen damage increase to a non-shaman specific affliction?
  
  I think the changes are interesting and I appreciate the idea of looking at it via 1v1 for moving into an interesting momentum kill (sort of reminds of Archivist), but I will say that I'm not exactly the happiest seeing yet another finisher with conditionals easily applied by multiple classes added. If premonition is attuned to a specific shaman, however, that alleviates some of its concern in a group setting.
  
  Edit: To add, the reason I have concern in group setting is: Abundance of impatience on demand (Luminary and Sentinel), the access to the phobias needed by Shaman (both classes again), and if premonition is not attuned to a specific shaman, that means we are in the boat we are with Sentinel: Bring many, as one can give the heartflutter while the other spinecuts.

  

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• Illikaal Pray Area

  April 2021 edited April 2021

  Saidenn said:

  Will the premonition be attuned to a specific shaman so that every shaman who shows up in a group can't trigger reclamation off of the conditionals? What is the thought process behind moving omen damage increase to a non-shaman specific affliction?
  
  I think the changes are interesting and I appreciate the idea of looking at it via 1v1 for moving into an interesting momentum kill (sort of reminds of Archivist), but I will say that I'm not exactly the happiest seeing yet another finisher with conditionals easily applied by multiple classes added. If premonition is attuned to a specific shaman, however, that alleviates some of its concern in a group setting.
  
  Edit: To add, the reason I have concern in group setting is: Abundance of impatience on demand (Luminary and Sentinel), the access to the phobias needed by Shaman (both classes again), and if premonition is not attuned to a specific shaman, that means we are in the boat we are with Sentinel: Bring many, as one can give the heartflutter while the other spinecuts.

  As I explained in the discord, I do not believe it'll be that big of a deal because of the unusual setup required to do it. That's 5 phobias + premonition, which means if a group is pushing for those you are likely not being venomlocked or hindered in any meaningful way, which leads to a bunch of counterplay to help you avoid it.
  
  
  Edit: Now that I think about it, it's even more counterable if people actually play support on the target. Syssin using that new ability that wipes a mental every 5 + fool sounds like it could deter this pretty easily, especially since the target wouldn't be getting hindered in theory.

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• Haven World Burner Flight School

  April 2021

  Group combat is wildly broken and unbalanced.

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• Illikaal Pray Area

  April 2021

  The vines corkscrew around Valorie's limbs, digging in painfully as she squirms in terror. The
  slender tips of the creeping plants pierce through her skin at points along the major veins in the
  wrists, neck and legs as they continue their parasitic spread throughout her body. Finally, the
  vines burst forth from her mouth and gut in a grisly display, the tearing of skin and muscle and
  cracking of bones audible. She produces a thick and sickly gurgle just prior to losing
  consciousness, her body slumping downward.
  
  Didn't there used to be a bit at the end where this beautiful flower blooms from their corpse? That was a nice touch and I'd love to see it in reclamations.

  "And finally, swear to Me: You will give your life to Dendara for you are Tiarna an-Kiar."

  

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• Keroc A small cupboardAdministrator, Immortal

  April 2021

  There was, yeah. I cut it out because the death message was already pretty long after combining things together.

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• Illikaal Pray Area

  April 2021

  Keroc said:

  There was, yeah. I cut it out because the death message was already pretty long after combining things together.

  Sir. I need my giant flower sprouting out of their mouth and breaking their neck or chest please. It's WAY too iconic to pass up!

  "And finally, swear to Me: You will give your life to Dendara for you are Tiarna an-Kiar."

  

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• Rijetta Nowhere Important

  April 2021

  Illidan said:

  Saidenn said:

  Will the premonition be attuned to a specific shaman so that every shaman who shows up in a group can't trigger reclamation off of the conditionals? What is the thought process behind moving omen damage increase to a non-shaman specific affliction?
  
  I think the changes are interesting and I appreciate the idea of looking at it via 1v1 for moving into an interesting momentum kill (sort of reminds of Archivist), but I will say that I'm not exactly the happiest seeing yet another finisher with conditionals easily applied by multiple classes added. If premonition is attuned to a specific shaman, however, that alleviates some of its concern in a group setting.
  
  Edit: To add, the reason I have concern in group setting is: Abundance of impatience on demand (Luminary and Sentinel), the access to the phobias needed by Shaman (both classes again), and if premonition is not attuned to a specific shaman, that means we are in the boat we are with Sentinel: Bring many, as one can give the heartflutter while the other spinecuts.

  As I explained in the discord, I do not believe it'll be that big of a deal because of the unusual setup required to do it. That's 5 phobias + premonition, which means if a group is pushing for those you are likely not being venomlocked or hindered in any meaningful way, which leads to a bunch of counterplay to help you avoid it.
  
  
  Edit: Now that I think about it, it's even more counterable if people actually play support on the target. Syssin using that new ability that wipes a mental every 5 + fool sounds like it could deter this pretty easily, especially since the target wouldn't be getting hindered in theory.

  Sorry - I agree with you that support moves need to be utilized, but I don't think needing TWO support moves used on one person to survive the onslaught of Spirit instas is a valid answer. If this becomes Spinecut 2, it's a problem. Moreover, it's a little disappointing to see a class with a functional and interesting kill route (omen) get, in my eyes, demoted to a conditional insta.

  A low, sultry voice resounds within the depths of your mind, "I look forward to seeing your descent."

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• Mazzion

  April 2021

  What's the updated panacea cure order?

  

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• Alela

  April 2021

  Mazzion said:

  What's the updated panacea cure order?

  Testing shows the order is: stormtouched, then patterns, then shaderot.

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  (Web): Abhorash says, "Nerds."
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