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Lunp, a young grook scholar joins the Indorani seeking knowledge of the secret arts of Necromancy. Instead she finds, uh....
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She takes some time to read a few of the scrolls Certimene handed her, but something tugs at the corner of her mind, begging for attention...
Something quite important. All of them are dripping with devotion to... something. But the practical question of what is not answered.
(Dehaken): Menelaus says, "Welcome."
At this point, a heavy, echoing silence echoes through the mindlink.
(Dehaken): Menelaus says, "Why did you join, just to ask such a silly question?"
The girl grows nervous, and that rapier tongue which has landed her in trouble so many times before leaps into action before her mind reigns it in.
Dehaken): You say, "And I ask why, that I may decide whether to bite my tongue and submit myself to your approval, or seek elsewhere."
(Dehaken): Menelaus says, "Do what you must do, but know you sound like an ass."
This is quickly going downhill.
The swamp she grew up in does indeed have many small 'islands', but her family hardly let her travel to Great Bloodloch ignorant of the wider world.
That is... until recently, with the return of the Primus.
(Dehaken): You say, "I am the first to aspire to rise above."
What an obtuse little man.
(Dehaken): You say, "We are only servants, sir."
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Certimene says, "Greetings, Lunp! I would be glad to help you join a guild if you like. Simply type ASK CERTIMENE JOIN <guild>."
Your active class has been switched to Indorani.
Certimene says, "Congratulations, Lunp! You are now a Novice of the Indorani. Please read 'help novices' to learn more about being a novice in a guild."
Dehaka Lunp (female Grook)
You have achieved level 1 (Neophyte)
You are 0% of the way to the next level.
Health: 334/334 Mana: 355/355
Endurance: 570/570 Willpower: 675/675
You roam the land without citizenship.
You are a novice in the Indorani class.
You are Initiate of Chaos in the Indorani.
You are a Sightseer (#5169) in the Fellowship of Explorers.
You are 18 years old, having been born on the 5th of Arios, year 372 of the
Midnight Age.
(Dehaken): Yetrent's ghost says, "Darkest tidings, Lunp. Now that you are an
Aspirant of Evil you are well on your way to discover the secrets of the major
arcana, summoning powerful enities from the Chaos Plane, and even manipulating
life essence in order to protect your soul from Death. GHELP GETTING STARTED and
GHELP DEHAKEN will guide you on your voyage into Corruption and assist you in
becoming a true agent of Despair. GNT (message) may be used to communicate on
this channel.
She takes some time to read a few of the scrolls Certimene handed her, but something tugs at the corner of her mind, begging for attention...
(Dehaken): Zatasesiel says, "Welcome to the Indorani, Lunp. Please take a moment to read over GHELP GETTING STARTED, GHELP NEWBIES, and GHELP DEHAKEN. Any questions you have can be asked here using GNT."
Something quite important. All of them are dripping with devotion to... something. But the practical question of what is not answered.
(Dehaken): Menelaus says, "Welcome."
(Dehaken): You say, "Welcome!"
(Dehaken): You say, "A question."
(Dehaken): You say, "What is... the point of all this? Evil for evil's sake?"
At this point, a heavy, echoing silence echoes through the mindlink.
(Dehaken): Menelaus says, "Why did you join, just to ask such a silly question?"
The girl grows nervous, and that rapier tongue which has landed her in trouble so many times before leaps into action before her mind reigns it in.
(Dehaken): You say, "I joined to learn the arts and sciences of manipulating life energy from a reputable coven. I arrive to find what... appears to be much posing and pageantry without much study involved."
Now she's done it. She braces herself for the heavy knowledge which is sure to be headed her way...
Well, that's a bit insulting. Her nerves pinging, she soldiers on.Now she's done it. She braces herself for the heavy knowledge which is sure to be headed her way...
(Dehaken): Menelaus says, "Yeah, well considering your age, you know nothing about any thing, and to claim other wise is utter insanity."
Dehaken): You say, "And I ask why, that I may decide whether to bite my tongue and submit myself to your approval, or seek elsewhere."
(Dehaken): Menelaus says, "Do what you must do, but know you sound like an ass."
This is quickly going downhill.
(Dehaken): You say, "Insanity? The Cabal of Spinesreach is known far and wide, sir."
(Dehaken): You say, "As is the dark cult of the Indorani."
(Dehaken): Zatasesiel says, "We are not the Cabal of Spinesreach, child."
(Dehaken): You say, "Aye. This was more... geographically sound."
After all, why travel all the way to the tundra and Spinesreach?
(Dehaken): You say, "As is the dark cult of the Indorani."
(Dehaken): Zatasesiel says, "We are not the Cabal of Spinesreach, child."
(Dehaken): You say, "Aye. This was more... geographically sound."
After all, why travel all the way to the tundra and Spinesreach?
(Dehaken): Menelaus says, "For just arriving off the isle and skipping the chance to do many things, and speaking about things you don't really know or understand quite yet.
The swamp she grew up in does indeed have many small 'islands', but her family hardly let her travel to Great Bloodloch ignorant of the wider world.
(Dehaken): Menelaus says, "Arrogance is fine if you can back it up, but so far you cannot."
(Dehaken): You say, "I am a Sapient, sir. I have some basic knowledge of the world. Furthermore, my family has served the great Houses of Bloodloch for generations as living servants."
That is... until recently, with the return of the Primus.
(Dehaken): You say, "I am the first to aspire to rise above."
(Dehaken): Menelaus says, "That makes little to no sense, to me, considering Bloodloch's stance on living."
What an obtuse little man.
(Dehaken): You say, "We are only servants, sir."
(Dehaken): Zatasesiel says, "You are doing a very poor job of it thus far. So far I have seen you be rude, and disrespectful to those you wish to have teach you."
(Dehaken): Menelaus says, "They don't even want living servants."
The would-be scholar closes her eyes and takes a deep, bracing breath. This has gotten out of control and far afield of her original query. She begins to suspect that these men don't know how to answer her question, and this is the true source of their frustration. This possibility is... alarming, to say the least.
(Dehaken): Menelaus says, "Uhm, what are you even talking about?"
Spinesreach isn't but SO far, really.
[/spoiler](Dehaken): Menelaus says, "They don't even want living servants."
(Dehaken): Menelaus says, "But if you want to serve Bloodloch that is fine, but you don't need to be Undead or of Bloodloch to be here."
The would-be scholar closes her eyes and takes a deep, bracing breath. This has gotten out of control and far afield of her original query. She begins to suspect that these men don't know how to answer her question, and this is the true source of their frustration. This possibility is... alarming, to say the least.
(Dehaken): You say, "I do not mean to be disrespectful. I meant only to find out what the point of all this was, besides evil for evil's sake."
(Dehaken): Menelaus says, "Uhm, what are you even talking about?"
Spinesreach isn't but SO far, really.
(Dehaken): You say, "...Right. I think I may have found myself in the wrong guild."
(Dehaken): Menelaus says, "Good riddance to bad rubbish I say."(Dehaken): You say, "Excuse me."
(Dehaken): Zatasesiel says, "It seems you have."
You are still in your guild novicehood, and will lose all your guild skills if
you quit the guild. You will, however, get back approximately the same number of
lessons you put into them. If you are certain you wish to do this, then type
AGREE.
You have gained 0 lessons as a result of losing the Indorani class.
Heaving a sigh of resignation, you leave the Indorani.
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Comments
Doesn't change the fact that Mene acting like a bag of unicorns isn't exactly uncommon and perhaps someone should tell him to stop that stuff.
Edit: That said, if you are a true newbie. Ignore Mene, he's largely irrelevant to everyday Aetolia. Most of the playerbase is pretty awesome.
My reactions may not have been the best to foster a discussion, but they were purely honest. There's no trolling going on there, just bad reactions from one PC to another and me growing frustrated and quitting the guild to go alt elsewhere.
If you were trolling? Bad. Stop it.
If not? Well, tough luck. Try the Cabalists, they look like they'll be a better fit.
Also, their theme isn't "Mwahaha, we serve Sarta-...I mean, Chakrasul and we're evil."
If this log had featured the player reading the scrolls, asking less overtly aggressive questions, and actually trying to roleplay an explorer without preconceptions, I would be much more impressed with it. As it is, gems like the line about pomp and pageantry reek of someone setting out to discredit a group they don't like. I think it's a pretty reasonable assumption that the Indorani don't have much in the way of science RP, but this log demonstrates less of that and more of Menelaus and an alt being unpleasant to each other.
Final note: You don't swear at newbies or call them idiots. You just don't. That alone would be enough for my opinion of Menelaus to have fallen.
Anyway, Indorani Roleplay from Alexina's perspective (I guess some are more interesting on an OOC level than something to actually pursue in game):
So far, I like what I've seen in the Indorani. It's less about fiddling with the world in order to understand it and more about diving right into the middle of thing and wrestle as much power as you possibly can into your hands. The guild aligns very well with both Ve'kahi and Iosyne, although Alexina has a more pragmatic view on morals: Despair sounds sort of ambitious and high-reaching and is not really something that has a clear, definite meaning. She would not willingly subject people to Despair as she understands it because it would either break them or make them stronger, neither which seems like a very useful thing to do. Imagine your fiercest enemy having experienced despair and overcome it? That would not be very amusing at all. She is certain she does not fully understand the concept yet but she is eager to learn.
/end forum RP.
Basically, and this is directed at the original poster, if you don't get the answer you want immediately, try waiting around and talk to other people. Be respectful about it. Showing a genuine interest/excitement in a guild will make people be a lot more interested in helping you out, even if things doesn't make much sense to you at first. This -is- a fantasy setting that is highly polarized and 'Evil for the sake of Evil' will appeal to certain people, but that's not the feeling I've been getting from the guild at all. It's more about abandoning the inhibitions of one's conscience in order to reach into the darkest recesses of Sapience and squeeze out some of that delicious power. What you do with that power, on the other hand, is entirely up to you. I'm still new so I might have gotten everything wrong, but I am pretty excited about having joined the guild.
Also, you're assuming the posters here aren't aware of how you behave in-game. Believe me, the assertion that you need to pull your head in is not coming from people who're ignorant.
Inb4 flagged as troll.
Sorry I didn't chime in with the commands like I usually do, and I have yet to fully teach Zatasesiel either. I've been very busy with some city drama, and such, also in Mene's personal life it has been a disaster. I don't mean to make excuses, I am not trying to justify my self, just offer some form of explanation for some comments.
-Spencer
EDIT: How do you do the SPOILER thing?
Yusri is a lady - ya know, with lady bits and everything.
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