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You paid for a 7% speed increase.
Crown gets deleted and abilities adjusted to compensate.
The end result is you still have your 7% speed increase you paid for. Just now everyone has it. Assuming retirement value was fixed for compensation, everything is more or less the same but better, the economy isn't impacted (either negatively or positively) due to 850 bound cr coming in and future magelings and fireflies and sparklebats don't have to live off of Ramen for a full month to be on even ground with those of us who bit the bullet and made that sacrifice.
You're literally losing nothing. Any bitter feelings about it is like when my grandpa use to tell me how he had to walk to school up hill both ways in the snow while I was getting on the school bus in the mornings.
Don't get me wrong, deletion without a refund isn't my preferred solution either, but it is a solution that I feel is viable.
As an example. A homeless man asks me for money. Do I give him any? Sadly no. Not because I'm a dick, cause I've been homeless before, but because I worked my arse off to get what I have and i need every penny for the things I need/want. Now the story would be flipped if I was rich. My aspect on giving g the homeless money, and everyone else my artifact perk would be different. But it isn't, and I'm not. So I'm against the idea.
Of course this will not deal with the power creep which seems to have accumulated over years, but a dent within the armor could be the opening required to deal with the issue.
(( Also I would suggest positioning maluses/bonuses for the game too (to prevent 70-armed men obliterating enemies one-by-one issue), but I do not wish to derail the thread. If a balanced idea occurs within my mind fitting to Aetolian combat, I might share elsewhere. ))
On one hand, yeah, the people who had it enjoyed GW2 the entire time. On the other hand, the company didn't even offer some form of recognition or perk or discount for owning the game, which pissed a lot of people off (myself included).
I did end up buying the expansion for GW2, but it took me like.. 1-2 years before I even bothered to get it and play the game again. Now, I don't play much GW2 (used to play it constantly)
Artifacts get nerfed or deleted as time goes on. In my time here alone I've seen the Syssin charm get nerfed, the Bloodborn artifacts (tablet/phial) were deleted, the wings/amulet were changed to a % hp limiting factor to run, Blackout artifact (Clarity) was nerfed, and the golden wrought hand was deleted. Those are just artifacts that I remember off the top of my head. There are dozens, dozens more if I chose to spend the next month and half combing through 2,676 announce posts.
If the artifact was nerfed, you didn't get a refund or a message saying "Oh we're so sorry, did you want a refund on this artifact because it doesn't do what it did originally when you bought it?" Instead, you got mad/upset and moved on with your life but kept your artifact anyway. However, there's a huge difference between all those artifacts and the crown....
The crown is a LITERAL NECESSITY TO FIGHT! PVP should not be 'You NEED this fight.' Artifacts are a "Oh look. Shiny! This will help me survive more!"
Every other class in the game doesn't have an absolute NEED for any artifacts to fight. But if you want to play as an EQ Class (Lumi, Shaman, Prae, Mage), you NEED the crown to even be competitive. Otherwise we get to fucking laugh at you and tell you how stupid you are for not being dual eq-enhanced.
My take: Get rid of crown. If I get burned 850 credits, so be it. It's not ideal, but so be it. I would much rather see more people getting into the PK game than not.
Solution: Change the way the enhancements work. 7% balance or 14% eq. That way, everyone has pretty much the same access to the eq speeds across the board.
+bal/+eq, doesn't stack with enhance, 800cr per +speed? Seems golden to me. You can keep your extra hp, making it like an extra 6% hp/mp artifact (which would be super helpful), then speed up all eq stuff by 7%.
The same could go for Carnifex, who use soul attacks on an EQ basis. It may not be as often as Luminary or Monk, but it is a slowdown.
Monks who use telepathy after their combos - with EQ crown it lines up perfectly.
The comment of 'Not sure it makes a difference until you get to top tier levels' is somewhat unnerving. Everything is balanced around top tier, with everything available to you. This includes crown and suitable enhancements for +bal/+eq - if Keroc, or past liaisons, feel that classes NEED crown ( aka how skills are balanced ) to be at their maximum potential, what point are you trying to get across? The only discussion that should happen is top tier.
That being said, if I were fighting @Toz as an EQ class, and he had the ability (and I'm sure he's a lot better than this) to guarantee a kill on me 1 minute after the fight started, consistently, then the only way I could beat him would be to either hinder him hard enough that I can stay alive, or to outpace his combat with my own ability. If it took me precisely 1 minute and 3 seconds to kill someone, including Toz, well, I still lose 100% of the time because he beats me by 3 seconds. Buying a crown would net me roughly 4 seconds of speed towards my kill route. That leaves me at 59 seconds. Now I beat Toz 100% of the time.
I understand that PK isn't as cut-and-dry as that, but my understanding of the argument for/against crown is that simple fact.
If two identical Magi are battling one another, the one with Crown has a default advantage because his kill route is, say, 45 seconds while the other's kill route is 50 seconds. If they were using the same exact system and activated it at the same exact time, the one with Crown should, logically, win 100% of the time. (taking out variables like lag, system breaking, individual thought, etc etc)
It's not that it doesn't work, it's just that the playing field is, by default, skewed by a $$ paywall that has people up in arms.
Praenomen are a fringe case (I know that Old Praenomen was a bit on the side of screwed, cause no matter how good you are, 3.75s recovery time is just too slow to outpace curing)
The equivalent for a balance class is, effectively, finding someone to forge you the perfect weapons, which is just time invested and gold spent. The Weapon Rune is nice, but diminishing returns is enough of a nerf for weapons, and it isn't necessary to be a fighter. Definite perk, though.
Anyway, my take on it. tl;dr Most every EQ class can kill, just a skewed playing field with a $$ entry fee just to be potentially equal to everyone else. (People who actually play EQ classes will have to speak for the classes themselves.. like Toz.. and Rhyot.. Trikal!))
Of course this is not a chess game and there should be differences among people with artifacts and no-artifacts, just I strongly believe that attack speed should not be one of those differences.
I challenge anyone to kill me as a mage without crown. @Eliadon care to try fighting me without it to determine if the class is just fine without it? Or, do you like everyone else I know who's ever had success with mage know that without it you're neutered. Classes HAVE to be balanced around the fact that I and many others own crown, otherwise they'll be busted OP.
I sit here and wonder sometimes how did we ever PK back in the day when SO many things were just busted beyond comprehension. Old Paralysis, old Mind sapience, old lycan hardened bones, old tekura guard, just to name a small handful of things. It wasn't until people started abusing these things at top tier that forced the necessary changes. Essentially if those people never came along, this game would probably still be in that horridly imbalanced state. The ONLY way to balance things is around top tier. Period.
Also 7% isn't a tiny thing, it's a pretty big thing, especially when the balance and eq timings of combat are already pretty tight at top end, a single misstep or hit into rebounding can completely change a fight between myself and Eliadon, Emir, Fezzix, or any other close matchup.
Fighting as any EQ class with no crown is the exact same (hp pressure/mp pressure/balance used/aff rate/hinder/etc.etc.etc.) as fighting as a BAL class at neutral balance. Nobody fights as a BAL class at neutral balance, and crown makes 'neutral' balance for EQ at +1 EQ. 7% is a MASSIVE difference, especially since EQ classes tend to have longer attack times than the fast-swinging aff classes I purposefully picked to show how big a deal that time makes - mages attack slower than that, so 7% of a bigger number is a bigger slow-down.
Even if all the other factors make it 'too hard' to get a gauge for what's fair and what isn't, imagine fighting as shaman vs shaman. Or mage vs mage. In a mirror match, 7% wins every time so long as they're even in the same neighborhood of skills. You cannot balance that either, because if you make the lower speed person 'balanced', then the faster one is now broken compared to other stuff. Nerf the class so the faster is fair, now the lower speed struggles to kill. I did all this stuff on the first page to prove this point, and I have provided a concrete test result after my math crunching - it's your turn. Can you beat people you usually beat as shaman without crown? Like, try @Fezzix or @Trikal or @Emir if his internet ever comes back, then take off crown and try again. You can feel the difference, and it is beyond significant.
The earlier suggestion of allowing it not to stack with Enhancement and providing 7% speed-buff for eq across the board would be a good course of action. So again you are getting the benefit of speed as a Crown Owner but now without sacrificing an Enhancement slot and not losing 6% health/mana. Still a good deal and everyone would be satisfied more or less regarding attack speeds.