Small Coding Questions

Dhraen

It warms my heart everytime I read this thread to see constant support. That said, might I offer an alternative to table.concat() that will look much better when used with the above loop...

function concand(t)
    if #t == 0 or t == nil then return "Empty" end

    return #t == 1
    and t[1]
    or table.concat(t, ", ", 1, #t - 1) .. " and " ..t[#t]
end

Simply replace table.concat() with concand() and you can also safely remove the second arg from concat.

Essentially, your code will now be: send("wt Haven is in Nirvana. (Company: " .. concand(company.list) .. ")")

This will, rather than display: (Web): Haven is in Nirvana. (Company: Kaeus, Omei)
Display: (Web): Haven is in Nirvana. (Company: Kaeus and Omei)

This obviously works for more than two values.

(Tripwire users already have this available, by the way).

Teani

Not sure if this is a -small- coding question or not, but I'm looking for someone who could perhaps help me code up some form of visualization of limb damage for Mudlet. It doesn't have to be fancy at all, just boxes that change color depending on the level of damage to each limb, head and torso.

I'd also like some form of timer that ticks down second by second in a separate little UI container. Something I could connect to for example howls or holocaust bombs, so it counts down until the next one is set off.

Any help would be appreciated. Just contact me.

Moirean

Is there a way to force gmcp to update?

Daskalos

I think you can request GMCP data, but I've never been able to figure out cmud's #SENDGMCP stuff.

Moirean

Well I got it to send stuff. Now Aetolia is yelling at me in red text.  >_>

Dhraen

What are you trying to get an update for, specifically? A lot of GMCP packets are sent on each prompt.

Moirean

Info in a room. In particular, mobs.

Dhraen

Oh, just use the Items.Update event for that. Here's what I use, regardless: http://paste.pharanyx.com/lepekimudo.lua

Moirean

I use cmud, but thanks, I'll play around with that. I wasn't sure if there were particular ways to get stuff. Using items.list wasn't updating unless I did QL.

Irruel

Mudlet specific:
I want to write a script which will feed mudlet a bucketload of lines of text, and measure how quickly it parses them.

In other words, I want to simulate cmud's ctrl+k test.

If I can do this, I will be able to track down problematic triggers/scripts better, and hopefully get on top of this 'lag in group combat' rubbish.

Daskalos

Irru -- sent you messages IG. As for the CTRL K test... even that's highly susceptible to CPU  load that affects the reliability. I don't even look at that test anymore because of that.

Ashmer

@Irruel, poke me in-game, and I might be able to go through a few ways to have triggers and functions run more quickly. Some of it might be raw latency, in which case there's nothing really to be done but find ways to improve your connection, but sometimes it's Mudlet catching way too many things. If you're using Tripwire, I have a suspicion that that will have something to do with it.

There are ways to make triggers concat faster and functions be lighter, though!

Irruel

Hi @ashmer
I'm aware of how to optimise scripts and, in particular, triggers. I've offered to update all of TW's triggers with non-regex trigger gates (and for the hell of it, optimise some of the regex patterns while at it) but Kaeus says it is more likely the scripts they run than the patterns themselves, so he would prefer me to just point out the problem scripts and let him optimise them.

Having said that, thankyou for the offer and if I do manage to narrow down a specific script I may well take you up on that offer.

I got a surprising answer on the Mudlet forum overnight. Someone called Fetaera suggested repeating my tests with MCCP turned off. I just did this, and it is hugely better.
http://forums.mudlet.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=4494&p=20799#p20799

If anyone is interested in the details of my testing and how I was doing it, the above link has more details.

I'll have to wait for a team fight before I know whether I still need to do some optimising or not, but for anyone that has seen that scrambled text/raw gmcp look while in intense spam (following mudbotters that move especially quick - looking at you @teani - managed to do it to me.)

Open up preferences (alt+p) click on the 'special options' tab, and select the 'force compression off' checkbox. Save prefs, close mudlet (save) and return.

Riluo

This issue of lag is stupendous at times, to the point I have entered a room and froze up so badly that before the system can heal one thing I have fallen behind by several afflictions. There is something causing it and I am not smart enough in this area to figure it out. If you figure it out please let us know so it can be addressed.

I did the 'force compression off' thing. What is it for? and cheers.

Irruel

I noticed an improvement with that freezy behaviour you described. It still happened to me earlier in a 4 vs 5 I was part of, but not to the point of ruining the fight for me as has happened before.

I imagine that a large team fight will still be a pointless exercise.

Moirean

Irruel said:

Hi @ashmer
I'm aware of how to optimise scripts and, in particular, triggers. I've offered to update all of TW's triggers with non-regex trigger gates (and for the hell of it, optimise some of the regex patterns while at it) but Kaeus says it is more likely the scripts they run than the patterns themselves, so he would prefer me to just point out the problem scripts and let him optimise them.

Having said that, thankyou for the offer and if I do manage to narrow down a specific script I may well take you up on that offer.

I got a surprising answer on the Mudlet forum overnight. Someone called Fetaera suggested repeating my tests with MCCP turned off. I just did this, and it is hugely better.
http://forums.mudlet.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=4494&p=20799#p20799

If anyone is interested in the details of my testing and how I was doing it, the above link has more details.

I'll have to wait for a team fight before I know whether I still need to do some optimising or not, but for anyone that has seen that scrambled text/raw gmcp look while in intense spam (following mudbotters that move especially quick - looking at you @teani - managed to do it to me.)

Open up preferences (alt+p) click on the 'special options' tab, and select the 'force compression off' checkbox. Save prefs, close mudlet (save) and return.

I see the raw gmcp stuff sometimes on CMUD. It's not a mudlet exclusive problem.

Irruel

Seems to have something to do with MCCP.
I turned it off and haven't been able to make it bug out like that again.
There is an option to toggle it off in cmud as well.

Moirean

Ok, me again with my gmcp question. QL is spammy and I don't like it. After much google-fu, I've discovered that the command "gmcp.Char.Items.room" exists to let me make gmcp update for what's in the room - but how do I use that command, on CMUD? #sendgmcp char.items.room is not updating the table.

Edit: Ok. Figured this out. For any future CMUD dinosaurs like me, to make #SENDGMCP work, you need to send a db var (even if it's blank) with the request. Here's a code snippet that easily works:

$db.group = "" 

#SENDGMCP Char.Items.Room $db

Just plug that in where you want to force the gmcp to update the room items and you're good to go!

Saybre

Trying to figure out this GMCP.Communication bit, since the new Vox stuff it makes it a pain to capture. Tried to do an ANSI wildcard, and it just trigger loops all the time. Since there's a Start, and an end, not certain how to grab the information to my Channels window.

I use CMUD like a dinosaur too. >.>

Any help is much appreciated.
http://www.ironrealms.com/gmcp-doc

Is where I tried to start to interpret..but not sure how to capture? Do you trigger the GMCP off of ^Comm.Channel.End or do a database thing like the item capture..?

Such confuse. Much crazy. Wow.

Nalor

Someone wont like this but this is from Imperian @Saybre‌


Comm.Channel.Text
#WIN Communication %gmcp.Comm.Channel.Text.text


Info that is sent:

%gmcp.Comm.Channel.Text.channel - This is the title on the channel such as Antioch, Market, Newbie, Say, Tell, etc
%gmcp.Comm.Channel.Text.talker - Who is talking - Jeremy, Garryn, etc
%gmcp.Comm.Channel.Text.text - The whole unedited line.

Moirean

Yeah, I saw that post, but I can't make it work. Trying to echo back anything from Comm.Channel is just producing blank stuff, even if I trigger on every gmcp event. CMUD just isn't getting any info from Aetolia under Comm.Channel.whatever

Sheirosia

You need to actually request support from the server first. Not sure how in CMUD, but in Mudlet, I do sendGMCP('Core.Supports.Add ["Comm.Channel 1"]')

Nalor

Moirean said:

Yeah, I saw that post, but I can't make it work. Trying to echo back anything from Comm.Channel is just producing blank stuff, even if I trigger on every gmcp event. CMUD just isn't getting any info from Aetolia under Comm.Channel.whatever

You have to go into the properties? Cant remember the correct thing.. to set it ... @Moirean‌


Edited: Options, General, Protocols (general tab)

add-- Comm 1
or-- Comm.Channel 1

^ I loaded up cmud to check

Moirean

Yeah I know. I already added it there before I even posted.

Saybre

Same here, tried multiple versions of trying to capture, the protocols are there, still nothing.

Unhappy face.

Nalor

did you both @Moirean and @Saybre set the trigger to GMCP?

Moirean

Yes.

Nalor

hmm unsure then as I got it working earlier after I seen your last post

Saybre

Yeah, had it set as GMCP, even flipped through a few of the #s, nothing. Darn Vox things are the reason this is such a pain in the rear.

Saybre

@Moirean - I think it's Mudbot that is the issue, I just loaded a naked Aet and put in the protocols and the trigger from Jeremy...works great.