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If sunglasses aren't too modern, what else that we've been told for RL years (rightfully so) is too modern is suddenly kosher?
Query mostly aimed at but not limited to @Razmael who I'm told is the person whoever's shelling as Becue lately talked to about this latest ruling.
A better question, in crafting and most other things, is this: do I want this because it seems like a natural and intuitive product of Sapient technology, or do I just want it?
@Oleis Not asking for a blanket rule, just some kind of idea where the line is so I know what to approve and what to reject, since we're apparently deciding what's kosher and what's not on a case-by-case basis.
-.-
Edit: for more in that case, things like baseball hats (which do not require modern tech, but their context and styling and societal vernacular are the problem), etc.
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a) trying to make something with completely modern association/intention/styling (like my issue with Aviators becoming a thing. Ancient china had sun glasses of a sort, with smoky quartz, but I have like, MAYBE 2% faith that anything made in Aet would be honoured/worn like that, the likelyhood is far more to be Neo or Gary Oldman in Dracula or something, the latter being an iffy 'on the line' - though I also don't like tuxedos and fedoras because I'm a grumpist)
b) Trying to do something more than what Aetolian tech can do (like UV protective film/treatments, etc)
"Okay."
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For example:
A dress is a dress, possibly a gown, and could be described as having different cuts and designs. PUT EFFORT IN THE DESIGN ELEMENT rather than use a fancy word that people have to google and call it a fucking dress.
A hat is a hat. If it looks like a gangter/mobster fedora, describe the rim and the top, the slant and the design in a way that makes people know what it looks like and calle it a hat, not a fedora!
My opinion. I know that not everyone agrees.
For that matter, even those of us who do, sometimes have issues doing so because of how the code works. If they happen to have a second pair of pants in their inventory, it makes it so you can't look at the ones your RP partner is actually wearing, etc.
Sometimes people fall back on the word and then expect others to know or google what a sherwani is instead of actually doing a good job describing the thing in the desc. It's a long, usually collarless coat with hidden buttons along the front. It's a long coat! Why use a word that people might have to google instead of describing the thing?
And the word sherwani draws up a very different image when used than a longcoat--also point of fact, googling longcoat does not give you pictures of sherwani.
Not sure why googling a word, be it a style of thing or otherwise, you're unfamiliar with is a big deal. Or just reading the actual desc for an idea of what it looks like if you don't know what it is and are feeling too lazy to google.
I have no idea what all these forging alternates are, at least not without scouring google and sometimes Areka's brain--doesn't mean Areka should be limited to describing a thing as a dagger instead of a seax, when she means to describe the latter. She still does a bamf job descing the thing to be what it is, she's not using it as a lazy short-cut, she's using it 'cause it is what it is.
Not sure why it's an issue, ultimately.
Is like. Harsh and rough can mean the same thing. But if harsh is more accurate to your intent, why would you use the other?
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When I, for the sake of this discussion, googled the word sherwani and watched the images, the first thing that popped into my head was "Oh, so it's a kind of long coat." I'd never heard of it before and that's still how I would describe it. What is so wrong with allowing those who are "lazy" to paint their own image of what you are wearing without google?
an embroidered, collarless longcoat with concealed buttons
This gives me an idea what I'm looking at, and if I am in a hurry, I can create my own image of what it actually looks like.
a partially embroidered, red sherwani
This makes me have to google if I don't know what a sherwani is before I can even figure out what part of the body it goes on.
(using this as a model: http://cdn.indusdiva.com/44876-thickbox/red-banarasi-jacquard-art-silk-and-dupion-sherwani.jpg)
If they want to know more specifics, they will look at sherwani, but it should not be necessary to "look item" for a brief interaction to build up an image of what someone looks like, nor to use google. Sorry, @Erzsebet, I just can't agree with you there.
If I want to design a sherwani, I want to call it a sherwani because ultimately, it's a sherwani. COULD I desc it as a longcoat? Yes. Could. But it's still a sherwani. And if I didn't know what one was, I'd rather have someone desc it that way (like Areka and her seax/other forging alts I'd never heard of before) so I can pull it up on google and see what it is.
If you wish to continue on a course of action there are in game means we can appease to (IE Message Becue), however this is spiraling ever so dangerously into the domain of defensive action when that is not the intents of the forums.
Thank you, from your friendly Celani!
Have no problem googling what a thingie is. (LOOKING AT YOU, WEIRD GREEK TOGA DRESS WEARING @AURESAE). Will do that before I read the description which, let's be honest. Most times you assume the reader knows what your item is. You can tell me all day about how awesome your fedora is, but I'm still seeing a cowboy hat until I Google it.