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Re: Artifact ideas
Ok. Let me play this game for a second.
Re: Enhancements - Enhancements are meant as a tool to augment what you want to do in the game. Primarily when people utilize these enhancements, they already have an idea of what they would like to do, whether that is PK, PVE, roleplay, etc. So they build their enhancements around this idea. For example, I do both PK and PVE. So I've built my enhancements around BOTH criteria with a focusing on experience gain because that's my primary purview. So being able to switch whenever you so choose because you feel like you made a mistake is easily rectifiable through the purchase of the 100 credits rebirth crystal. Easily affordable, cheap, and cost effective. Many people, even those who choose not to invest into the game through the purchase of credits via a credit card are able to afford this.
If you truly want to allow a change of enhancements as often as you like, maybe you should submit an idea about a cooldown process, such as we had for the heritage bonuses of a human in that, after a full Aetolia year (12 days), you could change the +1 stat. That would probably be a more suitable solution to what you are desiring while still leaving the artifacts alone and trying to diminish the value of already created, already affordable artifacts.
Keep in mind, people played for years without enhancements and we can live without them again if the admins so chose to remove them. These are a luxury we get to have now, not something we need to demand.
Re: Classes - Yes, you're right, 100 credits is about 1/3 of the cost of a full tri-trans class. So people, as @Teani has suggested, have to choose their enhancements wisely. See above argument about those. Additionally, expanding classes is MORE expensive than a 100 credit artifact and more times than not, people will sacrifice their class/lessons to learn a new one. And at class change, you get an automatic enhancement switch anyway. So when you change class, TADA... new enhancement set.
If you truly want to help better the game, stop attacking people who have disagreeing opinions and think from a business standpoint the difficulties of what you're asking. Just because you think its a good idea (a player with very little Aetolia education), doesn't mean it's going to be a good idea. Debate amongst more established players with well thought out arguments. Stop assuming everyone is out to get you or that people don't want change because of "willful negligence". People want this game to succeed just as much as every other player. Be accepting of criticism and if necessary, maybe take their ideas/criticisms to heart to think of a new idea to still get to your end goal.
Re: Enhancements - Enhancements are meant as a tool to augment what you want to do in the game. Primarily when people utilize these enhancements, they already have an idea of what they would like to do, whether that is PK, PVE, roleplay, etc. So they build their enhancements around this idea. For example, I do both PK and PVE. So I've built my enhancements around BOTH criteria with a focusing on experience gain because that's my primary purview. So being able to switch whenever you so choose because you feel like you made a mistake is easily rectifiable through the purchase of the 100 credits rebirth crystal. Easily affordable, cheap, and cost effective. Many people, even those who choose not to invest into the game through the purchase of credits via a credit card are able to afford this.
If you truly want to allow a change of enhancements as often as you like, maybe you should submit an idea about a cooldown process, such as we had for the heritage bonuses of a human in that, after a full Aetolia year (12 days), you could change the +1 stat. That would probably be a more suitable solution to what you are desiring while still leaving the artifacts alone and trying to diminish the value of already created, already affordable artifacts.
Keep in mind, people played for years without enhancements and we can live without them again if the admins so chose to remove them. These are a luxury we get to have now, not something we need to demand.
Re: Classes - Yes, you're right, 100 credits is about 1/3 of the cost of a full tri-trans class. So people, as @Teani has suggested, have to choose their enhancements wisely. See above argument about those. Additionally, expanding classes is MORE expensive than a 100 credit artifact and more times than not, people will sacrifice their class/lessons to learn a new one. And at class change, you get an automatic enhancement switch anyway. So when you change class, TADA... new enhancement set.
If you truly want to help better the game, stop attacking people who have disagreeing opinions and think from a business standpoint the difficulties of what you're asking. Just because you think its a good idea (a player with very little Aetolia education), doesn't mean it's going to be a good idea. Debate amongst more established players with well thought out arguments. Stop assuming everyone is out to get you or that people don't want change because of "willful negligence". People want this game to succeed just as much as every other player. Be accepting of criticism and if necessary, maybe take their ideas/criticisms to heart to think of a new idea to still get to your end goal.
Rhyot
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Re: Artifact ideas
100 credits for a rebirth crystal is already a low cost item. Hell, you could get these as a drop from cryptic chests.
Additionally, if you really are that interested in swapping that often, again.... you have the adaptation and transmutation gems already available.
This would be nothing but a redundant artifact made for no other reason than just to avoid paying 100 credits.
Additionally, if you really are that interested in swapping that often, again.... you have the adaptation and transmutation gems already available.
This would be nothing but a redundant artifact made for no other reason than just to avoid paying 100 credits.
Rhyot
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Re: Artifact ideas
One should also remember that this is a business, meaning IRE wants to try earn money. Why would they want to offer something cheaper if the already existing artifacts are actually selling? Transmutation and adaptation have other nice nice effects attached to them, and picking these apart might be difficult or diminish the value of what already exists, causing more issues than what it's worth.
Besides, as it stands right now it means that one might actually have to put some thought into one's character and the choices made when ascending, rather than just going "Heck, I'll just toss some things around and change later."
Besides, as it stands right now it means that one might actually have to put some thought into one's character and the choices made when ascending, rather than just going "Heck, I'll just toss some things around and change later."
Teani
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Re: Artifact ideas
Or you could just buy transmutation or adaptation. You're allowed to change enhancements upon entering a new class.
So.... this is already a thing.
So.... this is already a thing.
Rhyot
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Re: If you could make one thing possible...
[Religion] is about divide between reality and mysterious.In addition to everything else that has been said here, you're wrong about this. There is no scholarly consensus about what precisely constitutes a religion or religious moods. The idea that it must necessarily involve some sort of division between the natural and the supernatural is a modern, Western invention. It's a hasty generalization from how Western Christianity functions and it starts falling apart once you move outside this realm.
A better way of examining religion for the purposes of figuring out how to incorporate it into our everyday RP is understanding it primarily from a community-based perspective. In this sense, religion isn't something you think or perform, it's something you do, especially with a community of other people. In modern Internet terms; it's a set of memes, inside jokes, particular language, and particular assumptions about the world. It can be as simple as invoking the Gods in everyday speech, or doing small, superstitious stuff.
Heck, using the Gods as memes would make sense to us as players/be a legitimate religious expression; it gets at the same psychological undercurrents.
All that aside, here's what I'd like to see if I could make one thing possible:
It'd be neat if the cities had more of a... calendar to them. Events happening at certain points of year, rooms and items changing around accordingly. For Enorian for example, it'd be neat to see more visible signs of fasting, atonement, purification etc etc during Chakros, especially for Arqeshi. Players can do some of this, but it'd be nice to see some support for it via NPCs and progs.
Re: If you could make one thing possible...
I would disagree with this notion in EVERY capacity. Before I joined Aetolia, I was a heavy Imperianite in which I played for 8 years. Imperian decided to kill their gods and implement the exact design in which you are wanting @Kalak and it became such absolute garbage that you had a plethora of organizations claiming they were religious or a cult that you had no idea what is what and many cults representing the same things as each other. Not only that, but in order to achieve these cults, Imperian killed off their gods completely.
The bolded part suggests that Orders should be led by the God not by the player. Religious organizations could be led by people not by Gods. Aetolia does not allow such a thing in the current context.
Perhaps it might be a bit hard to convey for myself the "stiffness" pervading the current system. It is underdeveloped and largely in the shadow of other things (tethers, cities, guilds)
@Shachalai On the contrary I am trying to increase the possibilities with a more dynamic approach. We can all use honeyed words and wear our rose-tinted glasses when it comes to the current system. It will not change the fact it is outdated and heavily monopolized. It is a commodity unfairly distributed within the game. Basically a mechanic to create cults would open room for new interpretations. If it succeeds, then it will bring forth a new fluorishing organization on the table. If it fails, it can be culled.
In a roleplay intensive game as Aetolia..... if you did the same thing, I am pretty positive that roughly 80% of the players would quit the game entirely because it would kill a large portion of their possible roleplay. Imperian got away (sorta) with this because more people were enjoying the fact that they could just randomly jump someone 50 times a day and never get issued for it because of a strict AM v M v D (even then, about half the playerbase quit once the gods were all killed).
Does the religious system need an update? Sure, I think a lot of us could agree to that. More hands on godshells, more activity of the gods, maybe a new religious warfare system too. But opening up cults and offshoot ideas would be absolutely horrid to the betterment of Aetolia.
Rhyot
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Re: If you could make one thing possible...
One of the main reasons that religion cannot take proper root is that Divines are too meddling in their affairs leaving not much room for interpretation or creation of new viewpoints or cults. Ideas of religion spring from mostly imagination and to enforce legitimacy and sense of mystery rituals are created.
In Aetolia, Gods may bicker with you, they may get way too chummy with you and then they can outright invalidate you. So you cannot create a belief system with religious tones properly. In a game where Gods are joining "person auctions" and "raffles" it is hard to take them seriously at the end of the day. A high priestess declaring an event in the name of God is one thing, the God being directly involved with them is another. First is religion, second is reality. Reality does not mesh well with dogmatic belief systems.
And if you try to create an actual cult via Society/Clan system with no mechanical backing, it will fall short on interest because majority is not satisfied with make believe systems. They want to play special acquaintances of their meddling God/Goddess, be their chosen and feel the sense of IC importance. And when the God goes "Missing in Action" then the Order goes most of the time silent because most of "the Chosen" of the God/Goddess have NO intention to further the religion or take a radical turn towards creating activity. Those green names are like addictive substances for some people, when they are absent they cause a serious withdrawal in them.
If we want religion, bring forth a cult system where people can band together and create religious organizations. And when they can grow naturally over time, they can have minimal contact with their chosen Divine from time to time.
In Aetolia, Gods may bicker with you, they may get way too chummy with you and then they can outright invalidate you. So you cannot create a belief system with religious tones properly. In a game where Gods are joining "person auctions" and "raffles" it is hard to take them seriously at the end of the day. A high priestess declaring an event in the name of God is one thing, the God being directly involved with them is another. First is religion, second is reality. Reality does not mesh well with dogmatic belief systems.
And if you try to create an actual cult via Society/Clan system with no mechanical backing, it will fall short on interest because majority is not satisfied with make believe systems. They want to play special acquaintances of their meddling God/Goddess, be their chosen and feel the sense of IC importance. And when the God goes "Missing in Action" then the Order goes most of the time silent because most of "the Chosen" of the God/Goddess have NO intention to further the religion or take a radical turn towards creating activity. Those green names are like addictive substances for some people, when they are absent they cause a serious withdrawal in them.
If we want religion, bring forth a cult system where people can band together and create religious organizations. And when they can grow naturally over time, they can have minimal contact with their chosen Divine from time to time.
Kalak
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Re: shrinking playerbase - critically low
I mean yeah so you delete hood/veil, upset the people who spent lots to get them, then...what?
I'm still going to be in my haven with my shell behind a locked door or three. I'm still going to be 110% safe and so is everyone else who's doing the afk thing because it's not hard to be perfectly safe while afk. And if you make it so it ISN'T safe to afk then those people are...just going to qq and you'll have less players on anyway which accomplishes nothing except pissing off a bunch of people.
I'm still going to be in my haven with my shell behind a locked door or three. I'm still going to be 110% safe and so is everyone else who's doing the afk thing because it's not hard to be perfectly safe while afk. And if you make it so it ISN'T safe to afk then those people are...just going to qq and you'll have less players on anyway which accomplishes nothing except pissing off a bunch of people.
Toz
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Re: Possible Retiree
Mm, I wouldn't say we really have much toxicity in the 1v1 community. Generally we have a good idea of where people in Sect stand, and we generally are more than willing to offer tips about things if you are a reasonable human being.
Eliadon
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