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Re: Quitting for a while
This sort of interpersonal thing should be dealt with privately. And, if a party doesn't want to, that's it. We are not entitled to control of narrative or emotion of anyone but ourselves. I will close this thread to prevent conversations from being derailed.
A player needs a break, we warmly wish them the best. I have an email to respond to so that things don't get to this point again.
A player needs a break, we warmly wish them the best. I have an email to respond to so that things don't get to this point again.
Tiur
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Re: Quotes & Misquotes: Falling Off of Bridges
So, I tried my hand at roulette, because why not? Fezz won big, so I can too, right? Right!
Two days ago, I went in and decided to bet hard. I won 1800000 after betting around a bit. Later on, after more betting, I won the same amount again.
Yesterday, I tried again, and after some betting I managed to score a 1950000 win!
Today, this happened:
Less than an hour later:
Two days ago, I went in and decided to bet hard. I won 1800000 after betting around a bit. Later on, after more betting, I won the same amount again.
Yesterday, I tried again, and after some betting I managed to score a 1950000 win!
Today, this happened:
Less than an hour later:
Teani
6
Re: Heavy automation
Gonna be real honest here. Every time I read complaints about systems/automation in IREs making the game too "easy" for people, with the implication being that anyone can just download scripts to become a competent PKer, it just sounds a bit elitist to me. I've read complaints about how accessible systems like Sunder have become and I really wonder if they're just complaining because they aren't the only ones with systems (which tbh were probably written by friends that were shared privately). I don't think we'd have half the activity we have in IREs, especially in PK-centric events if we went back to a time where they weren't so accessible.
Czcienn
7
Re: Heavy automation
Automated offenses were pretty unheard of a solid decade ago, at least by me. I know Acino and maybe a couple others were rocking an AI, but most people that I knew were just using automated curing and manualing. Heck, discernment wasn't always a thing.10 years ago I would have been using a fully automated curing and offense system for 4-5 years already. They've been out there!
Edit: and this was before discerning and inline envenoming was a thing, even!
Mjoll
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Re: Quotes & Misquotes: Falling Off of Bridges
I think you might remembering the wrong game lore, @Desian...
Herolt, the decipherer says, "Question 18: What was the name of Lord Arion's steed?"
[1] say Nirend
[2] say Halisstel
[3] say Azaliel
[4] say Du'sah
God-King Desian, Immortal Sovereign says, "I remember that."
God-King Desian, Immortal Sovereign says, "Roach."
Elene
12
Re: Heavy automation
My system isn't even fully automated I have manual stuff that I do with keybinds that override what any script would do. That's actually how I hand resource expenditure on a lot of things really.
Being able to override your systems actually pretty important. Randomized cures becomes a coding hurdle for people more than anything else. That's been proven on most IREs. Impy we don't have a cure order and don't show random cures people still have incredibly accurate aff tracking. It just gives combat a higher barrier of entry.
Being able to override your systems actually pretty important. Randomized cures becomes a coding hurdle for people more than anything else. That's been proven on most IREs. Impy we don't have a cure order and don't show random cures people still have incredibly accurate aff tracking. It just gives combat a higher barrier of entry.
Ehtias
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Re: Heavy automation
I can only speak for myself, but I'm no stranger to coding, and the prospect of building a system for Aetolia only to watch it execute most of my attacks for me has put me off really giving the game a serious chance for a while now. I love the style of RP here, and it's possible that I'm being unfair to the game and not giving it a real shot, but continual inputs and a feeling of dynamism in combat in which I'm constantly participating feel like pretty important things to my enjoyment of PVP. I can't know for sure, but I'd wager it's like true for many other gamers as well.If you really wanted to do that, you could and you'd still be competitive.
You just need a queue system and an affliction tracker. Watch the AFF tracker display and hit your marcos while you're off balance to fire when your char regains balance.
Haven
5
Re: Heavy automation
This may be a hot take, but I don't agree with many of the complaints listed so far. As someone who actively codes and upkeeps a system for people to use, perhaps my vision of it is skewed.
I view automating certain aspects of the game as time savers. Almost all of the activities mentioned - questing, bashing, fishing, etc - can be gigantic time sinks if you're doing it manually, to the point that it may not even be worth it. I'll go through and do things once, completely manual the first time, so that I know how it works and what I'm doing, but after that a lot of things are just repetitive. I don't get that 'yay I'm succeeding' feeling from completing a quest for the 15th time, for instances.
As far as a barrier to entry or requiring coding knowledge, I would agree that you need to know some basics - but that's where it ends. Just like your character won't be the best combatant when you start because they're learning, so too can you learn coding as you find different situations that you need to add a new special case. There is a wealth of examples and places to pull information from, or ask questions, such as here on the forums, different public systems, at least one or two clans ingame, direct to people in game, the mudlet wiki, the LUA manual, and even stackoverflow.com since LUA is a real coding language.
Anyone who used or looked into Fallout, as an example, can see that it's not amazing code - it's just tons of 'if this, then this, else if this, then that' continually. It's almost to the point where you can read it as English, and therein lies the beauty of the marriage between understanding skills and coding knowledge; you don't need to be an expert coder to be able to rack up PvP wins as long as you can account for what you want to do in different situations.
I don't think random curing solves anything other than change for change's sake. (mostly) Deterministic curing allows for tighter kill windows and rewards knowledge of your opponent, their habits, usual strategy and their class.
I view automating certain aspects of the game as time savers. Almost all of the activities mentioned - questing, bashing, fishing, etc - can be gigantic time sinks if you're doing it manually, to the point that it may not even be worth it. I'll go through and do things once, completely manual the first time, so that I know how it works and what I'm doing, but after that a lot of things are just repetitive. I don't get that 'yay I'm succeeding' feeling from completing a quest for the 15th time, for instances.
As far as a barrier to entry or requiring coding knowledge, I would agree that you need to know some basics - but that's where it ends. Just like your character won't be the best combatant when you start because they're learning, so too can you learn coding as you find different situations that you need to add a new special case. There is a wealth of examples and places to pull information from, or ask questions, such as here on the forums, different public systems, at least one or two clans ingame, direct to people in game, the mudlet wiki, the LUA manual, and even stackoverflow.com since LUA is a real coding language.
Anyone who used or looked into Fallout, as an example, can see that it's not amazing code - it's just tons of 'if this, then this, else if this, then that' continually. It's almost to the point where you can read it as English, and therein lies the beauty of the marriage between understanding skills and coding knowledge; you don't need to be an expert coder to be able to rack up PvP wins as long as you can account for what you want to do in different situations.
I don't think random curing solves anything other than change for change's sake. (mostly) Deterministic curing allows for tighter kill windows and rewards knowledge of your opponent, their habits, usual strategy and their class.
Stine
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