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Re: Delete Insight
There's precedent for layers of hidden messages- Subtext versus SSubtext, and Sign vs SSign. I think that Think should be left alone with an additional SThink layer- subconscious thought. The things that only either a deity (Celani) could hear or someone with a full mindlock, which is detectable. You can use SThinks with the IC justification that your character has disciplined their mental control carefully due to the possibility of telepaths. What's more, it opens up a line of RP (with Celanis, plus someone could still catch you if you're too careless to touch bell to check for a mindlock) instead of taking away what has become an incredibly rich form of supplemental RP for a reasonably-sized subset of the playerbase. Even people who don't have insight, but interact with those known player who do, supplement their RP with them often that way.
Here's the thing.
Some of the richest, most complex RP I've had in this game- and there has been a lot- has involved the use of thinks to pass along or receive critical details, or emotions, or memories in a way that simply would not feasibly fit into the form of an emote. Advocating for this to be just deleted, because you want to type the words your own character is thinking without people seeing, is an irresponsible and frankly cruel avenue to pursue. Saying 'I don't like that you have this so you shouldn't be able to have it' is immature. Instead, we should be thinking 'yes, and'. As in, 'yes, these people can read thoughts, and it IC makes sense for them to do so. What is an IC thing we can add, because my character would be taking steps against mental intrusion?'.
I'm not going to say not to use thinks- sometimes, writing out the words on the screen helps solidify part of your character, or build the world to you. That's valid, and understandable. But the solution is not to nerf insight away.
Here's the thing.
Some of the richest, most complex RP I've had in this game- and there has been a lot- has involved the use of thinks to pass along or receive critical details, or emotions, or memories in a way that simply would not feasibly fit into the form of an emote. Advocating for this to be just deleted, because you want to type the words your own character is thinking without people seeing, is an irresponsible and frankly cruel avenue to pursue. Saying 'I don't like that you have this so you shouldn't be able to have it' is immature. Instead, we should be thinking 'yes, and'. As in, 'yes, these people can read thoughts, and it IC makes sense for them to do so. What is an IC thing we can add, because my character would be taking steps against mental intrusion?'.
I'm not going to say not to use thinks- sometimes, writing out the words on the screen helps solidify part of your character, or build the world to you. That's valid, and understandable. But the solution is not to nerf insight away.
Aolin
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Re: Delete Insight
I have the opposite problem. I learned about the Think command and forgot about it 5 seconds later because it seemed like it would only be relevant if a Monk was around and listening in, which I considered an extremely niche situation. Is it really that useful for Celani?At the expense of outing myself as the puppeteer, I will say in regards to this most recent event specifically that was posted yesterday, Mati's judicious use of the think command completely and totally played an enormous role in the direction things went for the event. Without it, I think things could have ended up going in a completely different direction, or may not have held the same weight that they ended up having.
I can't weigh in on the rest, but I will absolutely confirm that using the think command to give us hints and feelings to play off of that your character might not outright say out loud, or in the presence of others, is a blessing to have in the RP tool arsenal.
Brax
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Re: Delete Insight
just take some occlumency lessons from Snape and don't use the THINK command guys
Tetchta
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Re: Delete Insight
Honestly, I'm fine with Insight and purposely use think command when I know someone has it, but I also understand that a subset of players do not wish to consent to their thoughts being read. In the past, the admin created an artifact which prevents physical touch, I do not have any issues with a similar fix.
Moxie
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Re: Delete Insight
I can see where you're coming from @Saidenn in this instance. It's almost like we have two things we want here:I would like this, too, @Sibatti . I definitely do not want to stifle the creativity that comes with think or how much it does add to have insight on player RP, player sourced events, or just... interactions in general, but at the same time, if we want events that actively invite deceit due to an outside influence or force, not being able to actively communicate with the Celani (GM) in a meaningful way (that is not immediately found out) can hamper creativity.
1. The think command itself
2. A think command that's borne more of a desire to communicate intent to a GM type character (the Celani, in this case), that may or may not be OOC.
I'm reminded of "whispers" in D&D where I want to do something but I don't want the party to know, but the GM absolutely needs to know in order to make the story work. Celani do have more tools to watch commands - you wouldn't even really need to use Think in this instance, but simply any command at all, even if it doesn't have an actual syntax ingame.
I'm wondering if there's a way to make this even more clear, though. Something akin to Think, but one that's more of a signal to the GM.
Using the DnD analogy: It feels almost like someone being able to force a failure on your deceit rolls.
Saidenn
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Re: Delete Insight
Sibatti said:
No one is forcing you to use THINK. In fact, up until very recently, think was barely a thing that most people even remembered to use! Once the insight/think change went in, the people using it shot up dramatically - likely for one of two reasons:
1. They forgot/didn't know THINK was even a thing until it ended up in an announce post, or started showing up in roleplay logs.
2. People shifted their behavior and started using it more often, because it meant that having an actual audience to the RP that goes into your Think command might be picked up by someone, and therefore was a bit more valuable/worthy of the mental investment that goes into writing up lovely thoughts.
I also think there's an inflated perception about how many people actually actively use insight beyond a few prominent roleplayers who actively post roleplay making heavy use of thoughts/insight (cough). Sib is one of these characters - she's been a heavy user of telepathy for over 200 years, she constantly used MIND SAPIENCE way before insight was even added to the game, and has a well-documented history of obsessively digging into people's brains and settling in for the long haul. It's... I mean, yeah, it's a thing.
I've never even considered someone using THINK (as in, actively thinking something, knowing that there are others who can read commands / read thoughts / watch your output, etc.) who was actively trying to get away with something subversive, and are now being 'hampered' or whatever because someone might see it. Again, no one is forcing you to use the command! This feels like a playstyle issue, or an out-of-whack expectations around RP blaming a tool that can only ever make things more interesting.
Look at it another way: how many things do you think about during a typical day? Conscious or unconscious? I can only answer for myself, but my mind goes a mile a minute even when I'm not busy. Stray thoughts, fleeting memories, active internal discussion and debate - it's a constant faucet of brain activity, at least for me. If Sib is even a fraction of that level of "mental busy", then she'd be constantly flooded with the same. Does that mean I should type out THINK for every instance of conscious or unconscious thought that enters her brain?
Roleplay is a storytelling medium - we're here to tell a story via our character, and we're selective about what we choose to spend our time on. I'm not going to roleplay out the background tasks that go into an actual life (bathroom breaks, child-rearing, eating/drinking, bathing, etc.) unless they're adding something to the story. On the same token, I'm not going to use THINK for something that doesn't supplement what's going on in some fashion, whether it's an active impulse that's floating to the top of her mind, something she's reminding herself internally, or some other nugget that adds to the understanding that other people have of her.
Let's pause and talk a little bit about what it means to be subversive. If Sib wanted to stab someone in secret, which emote would you say is more effective, here?
Sibatti comes around the side of the bar you're standing at and steps behind you, slipping a dagger from the pocket of her dress and coming up close to your neck.
or...
Both emotes are technically correct and valid, but which one uses the storytelling medium to its advantage? The first emote is strictly and exactly describing what's going on, but the second one is only describing what the receiving character could actually perceive. Your mileage is going to vary - Sibatti isn't a very good Syssin, so she made a noise where a more skilled assassin probably would have been silent. But take that analogy and consider your character's mental actions. Does everything that your character thinks about end up in the Think syntax? We've already established an answer to that that: no. Not even every character uses think, even - it's far more rare to see a Think come through than it is to see nothing! Does that mean they don't ever think anything, or have any internal dialogue at all? Also no! So if we've established that you DON'T have to Think your character's every thoughts, and that the absence of Thinks does not equate to a character having zero thoughts, let's make another big brain move: you don't have to Think all things that your character goes through, but you CAN Think SOME things Just like I'm not going to directly describe pulling out a dagger from Sib's dress and trying to clumsily stab your neck, I'm not going to have her broadcast her intentions at that same moment with >think "I'm gonna stab this clown!" because guess what - she's also being secretive there, too! Which brings me to my next big brain suggestion... remember this scene in Inception?
The idea that your brain (where dreams are ultimately created, stored, and experienced) has layers to it is super fascinating. The notion that you have to protect your mind from invaders is even more fascinating. Canonically, we have measures in Aetolia to protect our minds from assault, so I wouldn't say it's a huge stretch to say that our characters already have an avenue of protecting themselves, mentally, from having their thoughts read, if they're actively prepped against it.
To use another example, Sib will be disciplined when she's in an area where she does not feel comfortable or safe. The thoughts that slip through would be harmless. Does that mean she's not thinking about whether or not @Qelres is really slaying it in that skirt they're wearing, or if it's a fashion faux pas? Is she not thinking about that cool Shamanic secret ritual she's been working on?
In another version of this event, Sib's still in this crowd of people and she's been smoking some of the good stuff. She's a little bit looser in the head, literally and figuratively. It might lead her to be negligent, and suddenly everyone knows both of those things.
Third scenario: Sib's in the crowd, she's sober, but she's actively being disingenuous, and starts throwing out decoy thoughts about things that are explicitly untrue, like how Lin told her she's in Enorian to secretly become a vampire again and it's devastating!
BONUS BIG BRAIN FOURTH SCENARIO: Playing the long game, Sib builds up a 'tell' by always thinking 'Dhar's balls' every time someone catches her in a lie, therefore leading everyone to believe they always know when she's lying... so that when she abruptly DOESN'T think 'Dhar's balls' in the middle of a critically important story moment, SHE GETS AWAY WITH CONCEALING THAT LIN IS NOW A VAMPIRE LIVING IN ENORIAN AAAAHHHHHH!!!
Both emotes are technically correct and valid, but which one uses the storytelling medium to its advantage? The first emote is strictly and exactly describing what's going on, but the second one is only describing what the receiving character could actually perceive. Your mileage is going to vary - Sibatti isn't a very good Syssin, so she made a noise where a more skilled assassin probably would have been silent. But take that analogy and consider your character's mental actions. Does everything that your character thinks about end up in the Think syntax? We've already established an answer to that that: no. Not even every character uses think, even - it's far more rare to see a Think come through than it is to see nothing! Does that mean they don't ever think anything, or have any internal dialogue at all? Also no! So if we've established that you DON'T have to Think your character's every thoughts, and that the absence of Thinks does not equate to a character having zero thoughts, let's make another big brain move: you don't have to Think all things that your character goes through, but you CAN Think SOME things Just like I'm not going to directly describe pulling out a dagger from Sib's dress and trying to clumsily stab your neck, I'm not going to have her broadcast her intentions at that same moment with >think "I'm gonna stab this clown!" because guess what - she's also being secretive there, too! Which brings me to my next big brain suggestion... remember this scene in Inception?
The idea that your brain (where dreams are ultimately created, stored, and experienced) has layers to it is super fascinating. The notion that you have to protect your mind from invaders is even more fascinating. Canonically, we have measures in Aetolia to protect our minds from assault, so I wouldn't say it's a huge stretch to say that our characters already have an avenue of protecting themselves, mentally, from having their thoughts read, if they're actively prepped against it.
To use another example, Sib will be disciplined when she's in an area where she does not feel comfortable or safe. The thoughts that slip through would be harmless. Does that mean she's not thinking about whether or not @Qelres is really slaying it in that skirt they're wearing, or if it's a fashion faux pas? Is she not thinking about that cool Shamanic secret ritual she's been working on?
In another version of this event, Sib's still in this crowd of people and she's been smoking some of the good stuff. She's a little bit looser in the head, literally and figuratively. It might lead her to be negligent, and suddenly everyone knows both of those things.
Third scenario: Sib's in the crowd, she's sober, but she's actively being disingenuous, and starts throwing out decoy thoughts about things that are explicitly untrue, like how Lin told her she's in Enorian to secretly become a vampire again and it's devastating!
BONUS BIG BRAIN FOURTH SCENARIO: Playing the long game, Sib builds up a 'tell' by always thinking 'Dhar's balls' every time someone catches her in a lie, therefore leading everyone to believe they always know when she's lying... so that when she abruptly DOESN'T think 'Dhar's balls' in the middle of a critically important story moment, SHE GETS AWAY WITH CONCEALING THAT LIN IS NOW A VAMPIRE LIVING IN ENORIAN AAAAHHHHHH!!!
Sibatti comes around the side of the bar you're standing at and steps behind you. You hear a rustle of silk fabric.
To clarify my original point: When an outside force that is not player-driven is inserted into the narrative, the ability to hear thoughts (even surface ones) becomes much more tumultuous. How do you give feedback to the volunteer that your character may be interested in whatever is happening without being overheard? How do you create a scenario of duplicity that does not invite immediate intervention or reaction from those around you who may have the ability to hear thoughts?
Monks, Zealots, and Vampires having access to these options do give them fun and unique ways to respond to these situations, but as pointed out, not everyone is going to be in those classes with said defenses or targeted in a way to take advantage of them at all times.
To use a recent example as to why I even made this thread: The RP logs about the knife. Saidenn's initial reaction was to listen to the knife, try to gain information, push deeper into whatever was happening, seek out the 'power' and whatever knowledge it held. Him knowing that others can hear thoughts as he can, however, and being aware of the vast amount of people who now can, he is careful to shield his thoughts to ensure that this desire is not known, especially when 'trapped' inside the Shaman (enemy) guildhall.
How, then, do we communicate to the Celani assisting in this event that what our character is saying to other characters and what their true desires or internal monologue may be without running the risk of IMMEDIATELY being found out? Do we trust other people to handwave away the fact that this character is saying "I am fine, I am in control" while internally thinking, "Yes, I agree with you oh knife of murder-y power, tell me more of your secrets please."? This is where, I think, the dangers of insight come into play when attempting to let our volunteers craft storylines that ask our characters to be duplicitous or gives them the opportunity to be just that. It only takes one person with insight to point and say, "X is lying, I can hear their thoughts."
Lin said:I don't know if anyone mentioned this - I have to skim while at work, apologies - but I think a big factor is people being "irresponsible" with their new Insight toy. A long time ago, it was in vogue for Shadowsnakes/Syssin to use illusions as RP supplements. Illusioning "you hear him cough under his breath" instead of a fake affliction or what have you. If you did it in front of a vampire, they'd respond "nice illusion" every. Single. Time. I'm sure they did it to mark themselves out as a stupendous badass, but all it did was teach us who not to pull out all the RP stops with. I'm sorry you guys are being given a hard time! I'm in the camp that believes maybe you should get a simple config, for free, that keeps your thoughts to yourself. But a lot of us very much enjoy the enriching addition they bring and we'd be sad to see you go!
I like the idea of a config. This way when we're presented with a scenario when we're attempting to communicate to the mcguffin or individual of the moment that our character is wanting to explore x thing, we have that opportunity. There is still some onus on the rper to give a chance for the other characters to possibly sniff out their conniving ways, but it does create a more robust environment for deceit.
Saidenn
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Re: Cursed Trickery Afoot: Archivist Edition
I forgot to log the part where the knife transferred to Legyn (and called him "darling"), but I have most of the conversation:
Finally catching up with the very first request, Saidenn turns toward a tridecagonal containment
chest and unlocks it, opening it and gazing inward. "How did you get back in here?" He asks. "Oh. I
think. Yes."
Drawing Maira close to her as Saidenn's repetition of the word, 'what', Elene draws her attention.
She turns upon her heel, and the woman stops short, coming to a rest next to a tridecagonal
containment chest. "The key for the chest, Saidenn," she speaks slowly, with emphasis.
Elene nods her head affirmatively.
Saidenn unlocks a tridecagonal containment chest.
Saidenn opens a tridecagonal containment chest.
You put a jewel-encrusted sacrificial dagger into a tridecagonal containment chest.
You take a jewel-encrusted sacrificial dagger from a tridecagonal containment chest.
Maira uses Tarot Hierophant.
Maira quickly flings a Hierophant tarot card at herself and she suddenly looks a lot more relaxed.
You say, "Sorry, wrong dagger."
You find yourself unable to part with a gleaming silver knife.
Akaryuterra's lips curl as he watches the exchange, carefully aware of the obvious disruption to
thought and Saidenn's grasp on his bearings. "Okay, so that answers that question."
Cassomyr shifts, quietly, a step or two in Saidenn's direction, until he can pat him once on the
shoulder. "... You all right, Architect?"
"Tsk, tsk, tsk. I told you it wouldn't be so easy."
Slowly, Devout Elene Arcan, Savant of Jherza says to you, "Is the knife talking to you?"
You say, "Hmm... I'm unable to put the knife away. Someone remind me to design a bigger chest nnext
time."
You say to Elene, "It wants me to kill and cut off flesh."
Conductor Akaryuterra Ryotega Junakutz-Lionheart says, "The flesh of the kill?"
A vibrant note echoes through the air, emanating from the central spire. Brief seconds later, a cold
gust of wind bellows in, heralding the arrival of dawn's waking breath.
Saidenn's ears twitch as his eyes settle upon you, "No no. It is bound. It and I were bound. It...
you can't simply..."
More firmly, Cassomyr Ash'aji says, "Saidenn."
A soft exhalation is heard from Elene, as the woman shakes her head. Again, for the second time,
does her hand rises upwards, the woman pattering forward to you. "And do you feel tempted to do
that, Cognoscente?"
Saidenn almost jumps, startled by the pat against his shoulder, before his eyes turn toward
Cassomyr. "I'm..I think. I remember. Mostly. But. The more I focused.."
Cassomyr Ash'aji says to Saidenn, "It seems to be a psychic parasite, Architect."
You say, "Actually, it's not very specific. Knife, do you want me to carve the flesh off the dead or
off the living?"
You say to Elene, "No more than usual, at least not yet. My current research doesn't require flesh."
With a sudden, albeit weak, complaint, Saidenn Tetzauh says to you, "I /did not/ flirt with it.
It... I was trying to get information."
"Carving the flesh from the dead would serve neither you nor I no good. It is not but flesh alone,
but the act of falling those that stand in your way. The Architect? You could hold his position.
Elene? She wields power en masse. All of these could belong to you were you to.. remove them from
the picture."
You give a pained sigh.
Deep in thought, Maira leans her cheek in her hand.
You say, "This thing is too stupid. I don't care about the Architect or Elene's positions. You're in
my mind. Offer me something I'd actually want."
Cassomyr squeezes Saidenn's shoulder, lightly, before dropping his hand. "Focus, Architect."
There's a snort then, derisive in nature. "There is little you couldn't acquire by removing those
unworthy of your presence."
You say to Akaryuterra, "I think it wants me to kill the Architect and Elene to take their place."
Miss Maira Sor'Tirivan says, "Is there anything that I may do to help."
You say, "Specifically, it wants me to remove those unworthy of my presence."
Miss Maira Sor'Tirivan says to you, "Well."
Saidenn exhales a rumble and he leans toward Cassomyr. He inhales deeply, exhaling slowly. "The
killing - that was not a bother. I just... I wanted to learn more."
You say, "Since my current research on the magical significance of language and narratives requires
the presence of others, this would counterproductive to my objectives."
Taye fails to hold back something that looks suspiciously like a grin at that, somehow finding her
own cheer from the situation.
Cassomyr's ears twitch, and he lifts his chin towards you. "Ah, actually a bit similar to something
I wanted to pursue, I will chase you up on your findings later, if I may?"
"Presuming I could not hand you that which you seek, in exchange for a little blood," it quips back.
"We would work much better together, you know."
You say to Cassomyr, "Contact me whenever."
You say, "Alright. Work. I suppose we can find some sort of common ground there. What do you want to
work on?"
Elene exhales slowly, watching you and your hold upon the knife. She watches for any further changes
to you, before she eventually draws close, one hand rising up to close a hand across your wrist, the
one holding the blade. "I don't suppose, Cognoscente, you'd want to stay temporarily locked in the
Archive? This knife is too close to let loose as you're off doing your work." She glances at Maira.
"There it is, lock you away. There would be no such worry were you to strike her down."
"Ooh, one've those sorts." Ryotega says. His lips curl, obvious distaste at the transpiring one
-sided conversation. "Okay, so it wants ta make a deal, some kinda 'bargain' with ya?" Now
Akaryuterra looks to Saidenn, "Did it offer you much of immediate interest, or did you simply choose
not to engage the entity?"
A bit softer, Cassomyr Ash'aji says to Saidenn, "I believe you, by the way."
"It would be hard to do research while stored in a vault, would it not?" the voice purrs, the sound
curling its way between your ears. "Sure, she says temporarily, but so long as she deems you a
threat she will keep you here. Endlessly. She's done far worse."
Legyn snorts at the knife. "You say that as if I couldn't continue my research here
for the foreseeable future." He then turns to Elene. "Yes, I can remain here for now, though I may
need someone to deliver some materials."
(Tells): In the back of your mind, you hear Taye saying to you, "That I could do." A trace of
eagerness - perhaps she is curious about the room itself, or what it contains. "If I manage to
survive obtaining them, that is."
You say, "Knife, I'm certain studying you will keep me busy for a few years. I'm also certain my
patience will outlast yours."
Maira frowns and looks about, unfolding her arms and quietly slipping out.
Maira leaves to the up.
(Tells): Effortlessly, you fill Taye's head with a thought: "I'd only need some simple crafting
materials. I should have most of them on me right now, but I may need more."
"Very well."
Finally catching up with the very first request, Saidenn turns toward a tridecagonal containment
chest and unlocks it, opening it and gazing inward. "How did you get back in here?" He asks. "Oh. I
think. Yes."
Drawing Maira close to her as Saidenn's repetition of the word, 'what', Elene draws her attention.
She turns upon her heel, and the woman stops short, coming to a rest next to a tridecagonal
containment chest. "The key for the chest, Saidenn," she speaks slowly, with emphasis.
Elene nods her head affirmatively.
Saidenn unlocks a tridecagonal containment chest.
Saidenn opens a tridecagonal containment chest.
You put a jewel-encrusted sacrificial dagger into a tridecagonal containment chest.
You take a jewel-encrusted sacrificial dagger from a tridecagonal containment chest.
Maira uses Tarot Hierophant.
Maira quickly flings a Hierophant tarot card at herself and she suddenly looks a lot more relaxed.
You say, "Sorry, wrong dagger."
You find yourself unable to part with a gleaming silver knife.
Akaryuterra's lips curl as he watches the exchange, carefully aware of the obvious disruption to
thought and Saidenn's grasp on his bearings. "Okay, so that answers that question."
Cassomyr shifts, quietly, a step or two in Saidenn's direction, until he can pat him once on the
shoulder. "... You all right, Architect?"
"Tsk, tsk, tsk. I told you it wouldn't be so easy."
Slowly, Devout Elene Arcan, Savant of Jherza says to you, "Is the knife talking to you?"
You say, "Hmm... I'm unable to put the knife away. Someone remind me to design a bigger chest nnext
time."
You say to Elene, "It wants me to kill and cut off flesh."
Conductor Akaryuterra Ryotega Junakutz-Lionheart says, "The flesh of the kill?"
A vibrant note echoes through the air, emanating from the central spire. Brief seconds later, a cold
gust of wind bellows in, heralding the arrival of dawn's waking breath.
Saidenn's ears twitch as his eyes settle upon you, "No no. It is bound. It and I were bound. It...
you can't simply..."
More firmly, Cassomyr Ash'aji says, "Saidenn."
A soft exhalation is heard from Elene, as the woman shakes her head. Again, for the second time,
does her hand rises upwards, the woman pattering forward to you. "And do you feel tempted to do
that, Cognoscente?"
Saidenn almost jumps, startled by the pat against his shoulder, before his eyes turn toward
Cassomyr. "I'm..I think. I remember. Mostly. But. The more I focused.."
Cassomyr Ash'aji says to Saidenn, "It seems to be a psychic parasite, Architect."
You say, "Actually, it's not very specific. Knife, do you want me to carve the flesh off the dead or
off the living?"
You say to Elene, "No more than usual, at least not yet. My current research doesn't require flesh."
With a sudden, albeit weak, complaint, Saidenn Tetzauh says to you, "I /did not/ flirt with it.
It... I was trying to get information."
"Carving the flesh from the dead would serve neither you nor I no good. It is not but flesh alone,
but the act of falling those that stand in your way. The Architect? You could hold his position.
Elene? She wields power en masse. All of these could belong to you were you to.. remove them from
the picture."
You give a pained sigh.
Deep in thought, Maira leans her cheek in her hand.
You say, "This thing is too stupid. I don't care about the Architect or Elene's positions. You're in
my mind. Offer me something I'd actually want."
Cassomyr squeezes Saidenn's shoulder, lightly, before dropping his hand. "Focus, Architect."
There's a snort then, derisive in nature. "There is little you couldn't acquire by removing those
unworthy of your presence."
You say to Akaryuterra, "I think it wants me to kill the Architect and Elene to take their place."
Miss Maira Sor'Tirivan says, "Is there anything that I may do to help."
You say, "Specifically, it wants me to remove those unworthy of my presence."
Miss Maira Sor'Tirivan says to you, "Well."
Saidenn exhales a rumble and he leans toward Cassomyr. He inhales deeply, exhaling slowly. "The
killing - that was not a bother. I just... I wanted to learn more."
You say, "Since my current research on the magical significance of language and narratives requires
the presence of others, this would counterproductive to my objectives."
Taye fails to hold back something that looks suspiciously like a grin at that, somehow finding her
own cheer from the situation.
Cassomyr's ears twitch, and he lifts his chin towards you. "Ah, actually a bit similar to something
I wanted to pursue, I will chase you up on your findings later, if I may?"
"Presuming I could not hand you that which you seek, in exchange for a little blood," it quips back.
"We would work much better together, you know."
You say to Cassomyr, "Contact me whenever."
You say, "Alright. Work. I suppose we can find some sort of common ground there. What do you want to
work on?"
Elene exhales slowly, watching you and your hold upon the knife. She watches for any further changes
to you, before she eventually draws close, one hand rising up to close a hand across your wrist, the
one holding the blade. "I don't suppose, Cognoscente, you'd want to stay temporarily locked in the
Archive? This knife is too close to let loose as you're off doing your work." She glances at Maira.
"There it is, lock you away. There would be no such worry were you to strike her down."
"Ooh, one've those sorts." Ryotega says. His lips curl, obvious distaste at the transpiring one
-sided conversation. "Okay, so it wants ta make a deal, some kinda 'bargain' with ya?" Now
Akaryuterra looks to Saidenn, "Did it offer you much of immediate interest, or did you simply choose
not to engage the entity?"
A bit softer, Cassomyr Ash'aji says to Saidenn, "I believe you, by the way."
"It would be hard to do research while stored in a vault, would it not?" the voice purrs, the sound
curling its way between your ears. "Sure, she says temporarily, but so long as she deems you a
threat she will keep you here. Endlessly. She's done far worse."
Legyn snorts at the knife. "You say that as if I couldn't continue my research here
for the foreseeable future." He then turns to Elene. "Yes, I can remain here for now, though I may
need someone to deliver some materials."
(Tells): In the back of your mind, you hear Taye saying to you, "That I could do." A trace of
eagerness - perhaps she is curious about the room itself, or what it contains. "If I manage to
survive obtaining them, that is."
You say, "Knife, I'm certain studying you will keep me busy for a few years. I'm also certain my
patience will outlast yours."
Maira frowns and looks about, unfolding her arms and quietly slipping out.
Maira leaves to the up.
(Tells): Effortlessly, you fill Taye's head with a thought: "I'd only need some simple crafting
materials. I should have most of them on me right now, but I may need more."
"Very well."
Legyn
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Re: Delete Insight
I personally use the think command as surface thoughts - usually only when Rhine is either surrounded by people she is comfortable with or as impulse like knee-jerk reactions. If you want a way to counter insight (a monetary investment no matter how you look at it) then simply make an alias to echo something only you would see in your system. Problem solved.
Rhine
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