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Re: Abhorash Discussion
Its was brought here and made ooc because it is always the same thing happening and I am not alone in this either, I just have less of a filter when made to feel attacked. It is becoming insulting that anytime I try to motivate people I become a scape goat.
Riluo
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Re: Bombcrafting Liaison Discussion
I want a bomb that you throw at someone, causing everyone else except yourself and the target to be hurled out in random directions and suffer something like 10-15 seconds of blackout.
Alexina
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Re: Artifacts: Cost vs Benefit
Paying 100 cr(40 dollars) for 1% increases in something is really, really horrible. I understand the idea of having to have bad things to appreciate the good, being someone whos played Magic the Gathering for like 11 years now.Marginal improvements to damage output matters more than what it looks like on paper, because what you're seeking to do is to outpace your opponent's healing. A 5% increase in damage can mean the difference between outpacing and not outpacing healing, or doubling your effective damage pressure in 1v1. The reverse argument works for marginal improvements to healing as well.
It should be 2% or 3% per 100cr, honestly. And I'm talking about things like rune of cutting, rune of bludgeoning, and to a lesser extent, rune of the leech(yes, I know its 300cr for 5%).
edit: Though the above was just a factual statement, it seems it's still somehow controversial, so I'll offer up a different argument in favour of keeping artifact damage bonuses small and expensive as well. The simple case for this is that nobody wants Aetolian pvp to become a pay-to-win (or, depending on your outlook on the current state of the game, MORE of a pay-to-win) environment. If, say, the benefit of the cutting/blunt runes were doubled, it would result in a bigger gap between artifacted and non-artifacted characters' damage output, which is not desirable. Because it's undesirable, the game owners only allow people to obtain a substantial damage edge at a very high credit cost, or, if you will, payment for the game's continual development, which makes perfect sense to me.
Luna
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Re: Artifacts: Cost vs Benefit
Paying 100 cr(40 dollars) for 1% increases in something is really, really horrible. I understand the idea of having to have bad things to appreciate the good, being someone whos played Magic the Gathering for like 11 years now.
It should be 2% or 3% per 100cr, honestly. And I'm talking about things like rune of cutting, rune of bludgeoning, and to a lesser extent, rune of the leech(yes, I know its 300cr for 5%).
It's the same thing with the new artifact powers that were put in a few months ago, hunting_field, critical_field, and experience_field. I like these powers, I really do, I'd probably get experience_field because I take a lot of people bashing(believe it or not, I take a lot of lesser named and younger players in Bahir'an bashing alot), and it would be super useful. However...I can not buy 500 credits for a 5% increase to anything anymore. It's an extremely poor value.
I mean, I just figured this was the way we were gonna keep operating, since it seems to have been this way for some time and is really entirely one person's decision. If we could get the value of artifacts and artifact powers raised, and make it a little more cost efficient, then you probably would see a ton more income to support the game.
I can understand some of these things seeming 'unbalanced' if they were raised, but you already have a ton of other unbalanced things that haven't been changed anyways, so why not just raise the other stuff to make it have better value? If you have a choice between rune of cutting, rune of bludgeoning, and say experience_field, and rune of leech, which is 1800cr total, vs just getting a hood of elusion for 2000cr...most people are going to pick hood of elusion because of how vastly superior it is to awful 5% increases.
PS/Edit: Hunting_field is 5% increase, Experience_field is 10%, and Critical_field is 3%, and they're all 500cr, and they still suck, even with the one being 10%.
It should be 2% or 3% per 100cr, honestly. And I'm talking about things like rune of cutting, rune of bludgeoning, and to a lesser extent, rune of the leech(yes, I know its 300cr for 5%).
It's the same thing with the new artifact powers that were put in a few months ago, hunting_field, critical_field, and experience_field. I like these powers, I really do, I'd probably get experience_field because I take a lot of people bashing(believe it or not, I take a lot of lesser named and younger players in Bahir'an bashing alot), and it would be super useful. However...I can not buy 500 credits for a 5% increase to anything anymore. It's an extremely poor value.
I mean, I just figured this was the way we were gonna keep operating, since it seems to have been this way for some time and is really entirely one person's decision. If we could get the value of artifacts and artifact powers raised, and make it a little more cost efficient, then you probably would see a ton more income to support the game.
I can understand some of these things seeming 'unbalanced' if they were raised, but you already have a ton of other unbalanced things that haven't been changed anyways, so why not just raise the other stuff to make it have better value? If you have a choice between rune of cutting, rune of bludgeoning, and say experience_field, and rune of leech, which is 1800cr total, vs just getting a hood of elusion for 2000cr...most people are going to pick hood of elusion because of how vastly superior it is to awful 5% increases.
PS/Edit: Hunting_field is 5% increase, Experience_field is 10%, and Critical_field is 3%, and they're all 500cr, and they still suck, even with the one being 10%.
Malok
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Re: Sanguis Revamp
I imagine the monitor thing at least will likely disappear from all vampire iterations eventually, free spying isn't really a POSITIVE thing from most peoples perspective. Especially not without an opt out or way to block it.
Aishia
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Re: Sanguis Revamp
No one is going to like this but not trying to be an ass but guess it's going to be seen that way.
Sanguis really doesn't need an urgent upgrade I can think of 3 classes which REALLY do need said update before Sanguis vamps
((Yes I've been playing it over past few days and only difference I'm seeing from now and before the balance change is now its .26 slower.
Sanguis really doesn't need an urgent upgrade I can think of 3 classes which REALLY do need said update before Sanguis vamps
((Yes I've been playing it over past few days and only difference I'm seeing from now and before the balance change is now its .26 slower.
Nalor
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Re: Abhorash Discussion
We didn't choose to follow Abhorash by choice. The choice was made for us. It was fine when he actually had to work to command loyalty through cultivating a cult of personality and through his progeny (Zahmekoses and Zoharim could be quite persuasive back then). He could make mistakes and still suffer for them. He didn't have a get out of jail free card.That's really not true. Every House in the Dominion had to make a conscious decision to join or not. It was not assumed that after the purge, the remaining ones would automatically belong to it. Rogues exist and are not punished unless they actively speak out against the Blood as a whole or attempt to undermine it. To my knowledge, only one player was cured that way, and that was with his consent. The Gaes group was also punished, but to a lesser extent. He has said to the Dominion that any other rogues are not to be harmed.
As far as the idea of him having not had any consequences for his actions, he was kicked out of Bloodloch for quite a while. I'm guessing that if the players really wanted to do something more drastic, that could happen again. It hasn't because the majority of the citizens are absolutely fine with his return, his creation of the Dominion, and his becoming a dominant force among their society.
Sarita
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Re: Abhorash Discussion
So do Gods, though. Would it be terribly difficult to just consider him at that level? You're absolutely right, he -isn't- some player created leader. He is a lore icon and a tool that the admin use to start or further RP.
And entirely optional, right? Ffs, I get tired of saying that you should be happy for all the admin attention you guys have had for the last however long, considering what a draw being supr evl & vamp already is and how you don't really need the help. You guys are without a doubt the most active half of the game, and you still get the most - from my point of view anyway, could be wrong -divine attention. I'm sure there is an argument that could be made that active players -cause- that attention, but. I don't know if there's any question in anyone's mind that active divine/admin/whatever you want to cloak it as things cause people to log on and play more than normal. In summary: Stop. Bitching.
Is he sometimes used to push an agenda or keep things from drifting too far off from what the admin ideal of BL/Vamp/Whatever is? Sure. So is a divine nudge, or an admin nudge. At the end of the day, we -are- still playing within the framework that IRE wants to give us.
I get it that you're an old old player and you had old old RP with him and such, but. People also used to name themsevles DragonGooberFire McTitlepants The Righteous Evil Vampire Wolf Archmage Knight Lord Something Something in Illumine, and I've read the news from the early years of this game. Please. Things change. Sometimes you just have to let it go.
In my mind, this is very similar to complaining about getting a bunch of useless commodities in a cryptic chest. You're losing sight of the fact that it's an extra in the first place.
And entirely optional, right? Ffs, I get tired of saying that you should be happy for all the admin attention you guys have had for the last however long, considering what a draw being supr evl & vamp already is and how you don't really need the help. You guys are without a doubt the most active half of the game, and you still get the most - from my point of view anyway, could be wrong -divine attention. I'm sure there is an argument that could be made that active players -cause- that attention, but. I don't know if there's any question in anyone's mind that active divine/admin/whatever you want to cloak it as things cause people to log on and play more than normal. In summary: Stop. Bitching.
Is he sometimes used to push an agenda or keep things from drifting too far off from what the admin ideal of BL/Vamp/Whatever is? Sure. So is a divine nudge, or an admin nudge. At the end of the day, we -are- still playing within the framework that IRE wants to give us.
I get it that you're an old old player and you had old old RP with him and such, but. People also used to name themsevles DragonGooberFire McTitlepants The Righteous Evil Vampire Wolf Archmage Knight Lord Something Something in Illumine, and I've read the news from the early years of this game. Please. Things change. Sometimes you just have to let it go.
In my mind, this is very similar to complaining about getting a bunch of useless commodities in a cryptic chest. You're losing sight of the fact that it's an extra in the first place.
Rashar
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Re: Abhorash Discussion
Abhorash is fine. He has been an asshat to Riluo several times in the past and I just roll with it. Conversely, he has also shown a few real human qualities with his puns, jabs and nods to work completed, which I think makes him well rounded. However for a period there he was the personal buddy of select players and they yielded a free pass in the process, as well as some benefits like re-siring, free items and positions of power in cities, orgs etc that did not earn. Perhaps that needs addressed so it does not occur again as it left many of us very bitter for obvious reasons.
Overall I am however very thankful admin play him as it is nice to see ye old dado awake and being a grumpy old shit to his minions
Overall I am however very thankful admin play him as it is nice to see ye old dado awake and being a grumpy old shit to his minions
Riluo
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