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I personally came to Aetolia from a game where you had to use skills like Selfishness, and use eye sigils and couldnt AFK and bash and automate like you can in this game, at times I even think that the leniency that the Administration have on this game is sometimes a bit too much.

I played a Naga in Achaea for some time, started my career there as a Shadowsnake, robbing people and things was part of the environment and part of the curriculum for novices was training people to not go AFK, to not idle, to have triggers to rewear things, to put gold in packs and to PLAY the game instead of just automate their way through it.

Whilst I feel bad something happened to you, I dont think it is something you should start a call to the admins when it is something you legitimately could have avoided by waiting somewhere not public and following specific skills and abilities to avoid. We already have safety scissors and bumper lanes in this game, players already automate bashing, harvesting, crafting, and even PK. I say release the safety net and let more of this stuff happen. BRING RISK BACK TO AETOLIA!

@Razmael @keroc

Hi guys,

So as people might have gathered I got robbed of sets of relics, racial sets, chalices, pets and much more from my personal real life credit purchases. I am pretty upset insofar as the items again are thing I purchased not earned through gold or questing. In terms of who I am not going to drop names but it is known already and they should feel ashamed for doing it in the first place as they have lost any respect.

Now I really hope I get it back as it was an investment of my money to use for upgrading Riluo.

So the charm allowed this "person(s)" to hypnotise Riluo, move him around, unlock doors, open doors and allow them to steal an act we were told by administration could not happen anymore. Worst still there is no message to show them snap or order you to act so you can not counter act against it. I mean honestly I go for a bloody walk from my lounge, make a coffee, sit down and it was all gone.


I honestly feel this needs corrected and looked into as it has been occurring more and more in spite of our community looking upon it as one of the worst acts we can do. It is rather low and I trust others will take the time to consider the impact this has both currently and in the past when several high leveled players left the game because of this.

The Syssin player-base, as I have seen it, are a very... Interesting group, to put mildly. At least the higher up ones. I had someone use this bit of wisdom a few days ago, and I guess it fits here as well. The Syssin do not play the same Aetolia that 9/10 of us play. While a very large majority play Aetolia as a game, where people are trying to have -fun-, I feel like they take a different route altogether.

Whether this is right or wrong, I don't know. What I do know is that sometimes people need to take a step back and ask themselves if this is really a fair thing to make people do. Someone brought it up that Rajazel actually spent two weeks bashing to get himself unenemied at that price. Now, he might very well LOVE bashing, I don't know. But going back to that 9/10 people, who really wants to sit there bashing up 200 gold at a time if you're lucky to do something like that.

I paid nothing for the class, and I don't know of any reason why I would have told you any differently. The only thing I remember telling you that was pertinent to this was that I literally don't remember the name of the character who gave it to me.

I did pay for arties, and for lessons.

I've already stated that I can afford it, but again - if this is the -standard- as you say? Obviously, I paid it. Bro, I have 3,000 fucking credits. I can afford it. That doesn't make it right, or reasonable, especially if you're doing it to other players with less means.

You made Rajazel bash for 2 weeks. Now, if he was just wanting to drop his status for one reason or another? That's cool, it's a choice. And hell, he actually -logs on- fairly regularly. What if it were just a recreational player that plays a few hours a week? Just to get into a city without absurd amounts of drama / likely a declination? Sorry, man. But no.

Edited: Forgot a sentence.

@Faerah‌

Message #2493 Sent By: Rashar Received On: 8/15/2014/23:44
"Got an enemy status to clear up. What's it going to take? Something besides giving up the skills, allowing public executions of my person, or any other equally absurd requests. I'm willing to work with you here, but there's only so much a feller's got to be expected to do, yeah?"

"So basically, Rashar wanted to dictate the terms of his getting unenemied to a Guild he had wronged. He also showed no remorse or desire to settle things in any way that wasn't going to be exceedingly unpleasant. "

Uh.. How is 'I'm not losing over 2000 credits or letting you publicly execute my character' attempting to dictate my own terms? Again, you're twisting things into your own interest, here.

Also, I sent Faerah more than two tells. Those might be the two you caught, I don't know. I sent her multiple tells and (I could be wrong) a message as well. I also tried to speak to Ishin who (of course) told him to go fuck himself, and one or two other members.

So, yeah. I pretty much assumed you were just not going to work with me. I came back when Moirean said to try and fix the problem.

No, Rashar is not remorseful for getting the class. -YOUR- guild gave it to him, Faerah. -YOU- are the one who looks at it as theft.

No, I'm not remorseful for getting the class either. Why would I play contrite and humble when in my eyes and his, the whole thing is absurd?

And, really, -none- of the above has anything to do with how awesome your (per Ishin) standard fee is. But, nice deflection.

Okay. Since I'm not involved in any of this, let me point to the main issue this entire thing revolves around, that I as a player would have issue with, that seems to be drowned out with deflection on the grounds 'You're just whining because it's not easy/you're not getting your way'.

How much work is too work for you to be doing while PLAYING a GAME?

That's the main question being asked here. I'm all for consequences, and I don't think anyone is saying there shouldn't be consequences. But you really need to consider other people and their means and what is reasonable to ask for someone who wants to be unenemied so they can.. play on your side.

This is kinda where it gets me - you'd make it extremely difficult for someone to play alongside you, adding benefit to whatever cause you may have.

Don't slap them on the wrist, sure, but don't make it RL weeks long to obtain. Not everyone has that time. You've made a business out of your guild skills, I get it. But your rates are too demanding on the -players-.