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Re: Cabalists
I'm not one to engage in Forum back-and-forths. So I won't. I'll simply state that no one, I felt, was trying to be a 'special snowflake' and that there's a derogatory nature associated with that term. If you'll note, I stated that what I loved most was how real, and taxing, the work of a Cabalist felt. Instead of being "We're all super-powered freaks" we each, in our own way, were encouraged and guided to be very cognizant scientists.
As to my inquiry about the Revamp, I ask for the sake of the guild it is tied to, that is now lost. I'm more than aware there are many Cabalist-users out there, but if Zealot were getting a Revamp, it would make sense for the Illuminai to want to know the details. As it does here, with the guild-now-clan this class belongs to.
As to my inquiry about the Revamp, I ask for the sake of the guild it is tied to, that is now lost. I'm more than aware there are many Cabalist-users out there, but if Zealot were getting a Revamp, it would make sense for the Illuminai to want to know the details. As it does here, with the guild-now-clan this class belongs to.
Rhoynn
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Re: Cabalists
The description of the guild you presented is pretty much why it suffered so much. This 'singular' attitude and neutrality does not make for good conflict and motivation. It also involves a lot of internal drama when there is this 'Secrets' and 'Private Research' where everyone is quite literally trying to be the biggest snowflake they can be and one-up the others around them. I can tell by the way you talk about it that the guild was more a personal event than a collective one and that is not the purpose of guilds.
We were very singular in our nature. Kind of neutral in purpose- not inherently evil, or anything. But what made us stand apart was that we were scientists, who focused on the larger scale of planar defence. Not magicians, mystical shamans, empowered warriors. There was always a distinct notion that the Cabalist could do as much as the Cabalist -could- do, within mortal (Human) physical and mental limitations. It gave the work that I did, in the time I was there, a rich, very real quality to it. I was well aware of my character's limitations, as a person, and it kept me (And all of us, I firmly believe) from going 'OP' with the sheer possibility of what the Spheres presented.
I read this 'Revamp' as a kind of 'Get rid of Domination, retool Necromancy/give it a new coat of paint and name, and retool Numerology' type of thing. Could you please inform us, at large, what can be expected from this revamp, so we as a now-lost guild, and any new players who may wish to join our class and cause, can have an idea of what the basics of what we will be will look like?
Just so you know, there are lots more Cabalist users out there in the game who long since left the guild and practice in their own internal rp arcs within new, cohesive guilds. This revamp is not solely for the few who were dislodged from their guild. It's for the overall game at large and the betterment of it.
Leana
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Re: Cabalists
If enough like-minded people come together, I will present a guild concept with the offer of formation. It would be a relatively clean slate in terms of lore, role, and leadership, but it would be the home for the revamped Cabalist class.I didn't sleep. Not really. 5 hours, at most. I've been revving in overdrive, trying to think of things. Its what my brain does when its trying to find a solution to a problem that isn't so obviously solved. Maybe that's why I'm a Cabalist.
But the above lines kind of jumped out at me, and I've been gnawing over them. You've stated that the assets, NPCs, etc are turned over to us to preserve the legacy of the Cabal, and then state that you won't leave Spinsereach down a guild. And if (And when) you make this change, the new guild will be a 'clean' slate. How will you both preserve the (Extremely long, rich legacy of the Cabal) while also providing something new, and of a clean slate?
We were very singular in our nature. Kind of neutral in purpose- not inherently evil, or anything. But what made us stand apart was that we were scientists, who focused on the larger scale of planar defence. Not magicians, mystical shamans, empowered warriors. There was always a distinct notion that the Cabalist could do as much as the Cabalist -could- do, within mortal (Human) physical and mental limitations. It gave the work that I did, in the time I was there, a rich, very real quality to it. I was well aware of my character's limitations, as a person, and it kept me (And all of us, I firmly believe) from going 'OP' with the sheer possibility of what the Spheres presented.
I read this 'Revamp' as a kind of 'Get rid of Domination, retool Necromancy/give it a new coat of paint and name, and retool Numerology' type of thing. Could you please inform us, at large, what can be expected from this revamp, so we as a now-lost guild, and any new players who may wish to join our class and cause, can have an idea of what the basics of what we will be will look like?
Rhoynn
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Gold coins
Most games have a option to buy coins, so my thought I would like to run past others is what if you don't have to buy just credits? Instead for those who don't have a lot of gold give them a option instead of buying credits they could buy gold coins instead. Anything is possible correct?
Hexes
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Re: Revive at Foci
We have a lot of things in the game that seem strong but are mitigated by simple, reasonable precautions. This is really no different. Noose, radiance, second-life skills, eye-on-death.
I don't know if spirit anchor hits diffuse, but it drops entomb down to like 30s. It's really fast.
I don't know if spirit anchor hits diffuse, but it drops entomb down to like 30s. It's really fast.
Serrice
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Re: Revive at Foci
I mean, we have to code around a lot of things. If I didn't code around hidden Sun Tarot back in the day, or if I didn't code around Adder tarot, or if I didn't code around hidden wither, I would die laughably quickly to Indorani without a ghost of a chance of survival. So the coding barrier, unless it's extremely complex, isn't really that strong of a counterargument.
In addition, I don't know if you regain balance/eq on death or not, but if you do, it's should be trivial to just make a script that polls exits and moves you in a direction instantly on death.
In addition, I don't know if you regain balance/eq on death or not, but if you do, it's should be trivial to just make a script that polls exits and moves you in a direction instantly on death.
Serrice
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City guard system is fundamentally flawed
@Oleis I know you have a lot of work ahead of you, but I believe this is paramount to a future in which city vs city conflict is the main focus. I understand a new 'war' system will be brought out soon, but unless it changes the current guard system here is my post:
The guard system we currently have is broken.
--Reasoning:
As a result of the way guards can be placed throughout the city and their cost to the city, city's are forced to lockdown and effectively remove entire sections. These are entire pieces of game content being ignored and unused. Some examples are a large building in the northwest section of Duiran, the prisons in Bloodloch, and I'm sure Enorian and Spinesreach has a few places too. These locked off areas only shrink the world as a whole and deprive new players of potential experiences and fun.
I don't claim to know all the reasons as to why this happens, but I want to stress that I don't need to know. Something is causing this to happen to the four major communities of the game and it needs to be addressed. I have my ideas and I'm sure others have as well, which I'm hoping people will read and post on this thread. (I'm also sure that there's a group who just don't care and their response will be 'So what? Move on.' To them I ask kindly - take a back seat here. If the attitude towards cutting content from the game is apathetic, that's a completely different issue and should be addressed in another thread.)
Just another reason why I believe guards do not serve their intended purpose: If their purpose is to kill enemies, that is a fundamentally flawed purpose. Death is currently meaningless. There is a gray area where people are unsure if the mirror is considered an in-game lore item or if death should be treated with a level of fear as we do in real life. If the mirror is considered in character, then death is meaningless - you know you will be given a new body. If it is not, then choosing to die should be considered suicide and an in character trait. Likewise, dying repeatedly while trying to kill guards and players should be considered an OOC or Metagaming action. Your character does not know they will return, so purposely jumping into a lose situation repeatedly is blatantly ooc. Here's an example:
Someone wishing for some conflict will perhaps attack a city in a raid to try and kill guards or defenders. If they decide that the level of response isn't to their liking, there is no way to stop them or counter if they decide to throw themselves at guards endlessly in an attempt to widdle them down one at a time. A raider who is choosing to die to nuke down guards has taken your only form of defense from you - killing them. This gives them the ability to effectively grief an entire city with no real response.
Guards are designed to offer sanctuary to players so they may operate without fear of constant attack. While the idea of providing a safe place that negates conflict seems counter-intuitive to the nature of the game, it's necessary. Without this place to conduct roleplay, design work, shop, or relax. Many would either choose to seldom play the game or gravitate towards the safest place they could find (Which would turn into a city hidden room with sparring or some other highly fortified single room structure).
The only barrier towards abuse right now is admin opinion of a situation. In the recent past, this has failed us. What's worse still, the entire situation had no real relevance on the organization (Duiran) as they turned around and just citizened one of the griefers like it was all for nothing. That sends a lot of confusing signals to players when it comes to conflict. Is it all just meaningless fun? Should we approach raiding and any form of city-wide conflict as non-canon unless presented by the Admin?
--Ideas:
I'm going to throw out some ideas so this post is a bit more constructive. I would love to hear other ideas from other people. I think I'm always right, but that's until I hear someone who is more right than me.
1) Change how death affects living:
Right now, death for living takes about 2 minutes (or 1 minute with spirit anchor) or you are revived instantly. (Minipoint: This needs to not happen during focis or vamp husks need to be revivable.)
Instead, when you die you can only be revived by a player. If your body is not revived within 1 minute(30 Seconds for Spirit Anchor), it decays and begins to reform at the nearest shrine of the Patron of your city with some flavor text (then you get dumped into the living portal room), which takes 1 min (or 30 seconds). Likewise, if the body is destroyed (beheaded, destroyed outright via insta-death like vivisection) it will start the reforming process right away(which means a quicker respawn). This is effectively a lore change as you can still decapitate or offer the kill within the time limit.
2) Change how guards deal with intruders:
Right now, they kill them and each do it slightly differently and require usually a handful to succeed on high level or artifact people. As mentioned above, they'll be back in 1-2 minutes if they really want to be there.
Instead, balance guards around a system where if the intruder is forced to stop moving for a period of time (say 15 seconds) and is prone, bound, and low on health (say 25%) they are moved to a city prison. Each city would have their own version, Spinesreach already has one, Bloodloch has one. This room would be the 'holding cell' and it will be a non-violence room for say 5 minutes, before they are transferred out of city and escape (it'd be a big flavor emote, perhaps with rotating reasons) and end up at the living or undead portal room (the one you end up after dying)
Put a cap on the number of guards per room, lower their cost, have them be squishier, and encourage the raider to run from them.
---- That's it for now, this is a long post.
The guard system we currently have is broken.
--Reasoning:
As a result of the way guards can be placed throughout the city and their cost to the city, city's are forced to lockdown and effectively remove entire sections. These are entire pieces of game content being ignored and unused. Some examples are a large building in the northwest section of Duiran, the prisons in Bloodloch, and I'm sure Enorian and Spinesreach has a few places too. These locked off areas only shrink the world as a whole and deprive new players of potential experiences and fun.
I don't claim to know all the reasons as to why this happens, but I want to stress that I don't need to know. Something is causing this to happen to the four major communities of the game and it needs to be addressed. I have my ideas and I'm sure others have as well, which I'm hoping people will read and post on this thread. (I'm also sure that there's a group who just don't care and their response will be 'So what? Move on.' To them I ask kindly - take a back seat here. If the attitude towards cutting content from the game is apathetic, that's a completely different issue and should be addressed in another thread.)
Just another reason why I believe guards do not serve their intended purpose: If their purpose is to kill enemies, that is a fundamentally flawed purpose. Death is currently meaningless. There is a gray area where people are unsure if the mirror is considered an in-game lore item or if death should be treated with a level of fear as we do in real life. If the mirror is considered in character, then death is meaningless - you know you will be given a new body. If it is not, then choosing to die should be considered suicide and an in character trait. Likewise, dying repeatedly while trying to kill guards and players should be considered an OOC or Metagaming action. Your character does not know they will return, so purposely jumping into a lose situation repeatedly is blatantly ooc. Here's an example:
Someone wishing for some conflict will perhaps attack a city in a raid to try and kill guards or defenders. If they decide that the level of response isn't to their liking, there is no way to stop them or counter if they decide to throw themselves at guards endlessly in an attempt to widdle them down one at a time. A raider who is choosing to die to nuke down guards has taken your only form of defense from you - killing them. This gives them the ability to effectively grief an entire city with no real response.
Guards are designed to offer sanctuary to players so they may operate without fear of constant attack. While the idea of providing a safe place that negates conflict seems counter-intuitive to the nature of the game, it's necessary. Without this place to conduct roleplay, design work, shop, or relax. Many would either choose to seldom play the game or gravitate towards the safest place they could find (Which would turn into a city hidden room with sparring or some other highly fortified single room structure).
The only barrier towards abuse right now is admin opinion of a situation. In the recent past, this has failed us. What's worse still, the entire situation had no real relevance on the organization (Duiran) as they turned around and just citizened one of the griefers like it was all for nothing. That sends a lot of confusing signals to players when it comes to conflict. Is it all just meaningless fun? Should we approach raiding and any form of city-wide conflict as non-canon unless presented by the Admin?
--Ideas:
I'm going to throw out some ideas so this post is a bit more constructive. I would love to hear other ideas from other people. I think I'm always right, but that's until I hear someone who is more right than me.
1) Change how death affects living:
Right now, death for living takes about 2 minutes (or 1 minute with spirit anchor) or you are revived instantly. (Minipoint: This needs to not happen during focis or vamp husks need to be revivable.)
Instead, when you die you can only be revived by a player. If your body is not revived within 1 minute(30 Seconds for Spirit Anchor), it decays and begins to reform at the nearest shrine of the Patron of your city with some flavor text (then you get dumped into the living portal room), which takes 1 min (or 30 seconds). Likewise, if the body is destroyed (beheaded, destroyed outright via insta-death like vivisection) it will start the reforming process right away(which means a quicker respawn). This is effectively a lore change as you can still decapitate or offer the kill within the time limit.
2) Change how guards deal with intruders:
Right now, they kill them and each do it slightly differently and require usually a handful to succeed on high level or artifact people. As mentioned above, they'll be back in 1-2 minutes if they really want to be there.
Instead, balance guards around a system where if the intruder is forced to stop moving for a period of time (say 15 seconds) and is prone, bound, and low on health (say 25%) they are moved to a city prison. Each city would have their own version, Spinesreach already has one, Bloodloch has one. This room would be the 'holding cell' and it will be a non-violence room for say 5 minutes, before they are transferred out of city and escape (it'd be a big flavor emote, perhaps with rotating reasons) and end up at the living or undead portal room (the one you end up after dying)
Put a cap on the number of guards per room, lower their cost, have them be squishier, and encourage the raider to run from them.
---- That's it for now, this is a long post.
Leana
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Re: Announce #2548 - Get some FLAIR!
Srsly. Can we nix the willpower drain? Just truncate it down to the normal move message if people have an entourage or something? Otherwise it isn't any spammier than everyone who runs around with 4 people, 8 combat critters, a multitude of pets, and a partridge in a pear tree following them around.
Icy:
Enter 1P:
Trailing footsteps of ice behind you, you enter from the $dir.
Enter 3P:
Trailing footsteps of ice behind $him, $name enters from the $dir.
Leave 1P:
Icy footsteps permeate the ground in your wake as you depart $dir.
Leave 3P:
Icy footsteps permeate the ground in $name's wake as $he departs $dir.
Fire:
Enter 1P:
A thin trail of fire follows you as you enter from the $dir.
Enter 3P:
A thin trail of fire follows $name as $he enters from the $dir.
Leave 1P:
Leaving a thin trail of fire in your wake, you head towards the $dir.
Leave 3P:
Leaving a thin trail of fire in $his wake, $name heads towards the $dir.
Water:
Enter 1P:
Sounds of splashing water following your steps, you find your way to the $dir.
Enter 3P:
The sound of splashing water precede $name as $he slips in from the $dir.
Leave 1P:
Sounds of splashing water follow your steps as you slip out to the $dir.
Leave 3P:
The sound of splashing water follows $name as $he slips out to the $dir.
Cheerful:
Enter 1P:
You whistle a happy tune as you stride in from the $dir.
Enter 3P:
$name whistles a happy tune as they stride in from the $dir.
Leave 1P:
You start to whistle a happy tune, without a care in the world, as you leave to the $dir.
Leave 3P:
Without a care in the world, $name starts to whistle a happy tune and leaves to the $dir.
Icy:
Enter 1P:
Trailing footsteps of ice behind you, you enter from the $dir.
Enter 3P:
Trailing footsteps of ice behind $him, $name enters from the $dir.
Leave 1P:
Icy footsteps permeate the ground in your wake as you depart $dir.
Leave 3P:
Icy footsteps permeate the ground in $name's wake as $he departs $dir.
Fire:
Enter 1P:
A thin trail of fire follows you as you enter from the $dir.
Enter 3P:
A thin trail of fire follows $name as $he enters from the $dir.
Leave 1P:
Leaving a thin trail of fire in your wake, you head towards the $dir.
Leave 3P:
Leaving a thin trail of fire in $his wake, $name heads towards the $dir.
Water:
Enter 1P:
Sounds of splashing water following your steps, you find your way to the $dir.
Enter 3P:
The sound of splashing water precede $name as $he slips in from the $dir.
Leave 1P:
Sounds of splashing water follow your steps as you slip out to the $dir.
Leave 3P:
The sound of splashing water follows $name as $he slips out to the $dir.
Cheerful:
Enter 1P:
You whistle a happy tune as you stride in from the $dir.
Enter 3P:
$name whistles a happy tune as they stride in from the $dir.
Leave 1P:
You start to whistle a happy tune, without a care in the world, as you leave to the $dir.
Leave 3P:
Without a care in the world, $name starts to whistle a happy tune and leaves to the $dir.
Erzsebet
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Re: Orrery Introduction
From experience with the Three Widows event, the issue isn't exactly the loss of PK, but the involvement with running from the enemy while trying to find things(in the Three Widows case, rope and other random items around the area). Noncoms would run in and feel pretty stressed at being chased just for being in the area, and would drop off of the event moments later. I feel grabbing another side's globe should give an aura, but not your own, or we might lose the pull for non-pkers to come. In this case, they don't seem to mind dying while holding the central room.
XP bonus would be nice, though, but might be a bit excessive.
XP bonus would be nice, though, but might be a bit excessive.
Aisling
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