ANNOUNCE NEWS #2253 (Group combat and XP)

edited April 2014 in Harpy's Head Tavern
From: Razmael, the Synthesist
To  : Everyone
Subj: Group combat/XP

One of the things we always want to see in Aetolia is more people getting involved in the PvP side
of the game. To that end, I'm introducing a few changes that I hope will encourage people to
participate in the easiest facet of PvP to get into, group combat, and hopefully make it less
frustrating.

A) You will no longer lose experience if you die with a foci aura, or die within unstable
environment.

B) Experience gain from killing a player who has a foci aura or is in an unstable environment has
been tripled.

C) People who assist a kill during a foci fight and are in the same room as either the killer or
victim will now also gain some experience, which will be split amongst all the assists.

D) Not really related, but while I was in the death code, I also made it so you enter death sequence
automatically on dying.

We hope this will entice people to partake in the group combat experience and we'll be watching to
see how it plays out. Please remember that intentionally feeding someone kills for experience is
against our policies, and any attempt to abuse the lack of experience loss will be punished
accordingly.
 
Penned by my hand on the 1st of Variach, in the year 418 MA.
RiluoCannanLinHaven
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Comments

  • Let me be the first in saying Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.

    Not losing XP in Ylem fights will be a great motivator to get involved again.



    I was wondering if possibly we could add that the time being dead (if died with foci aura) is reduced? Just a suggestion
  • IshinIshin Retired Lurker Virginia
    Buy spirit_anchor, noob :P <3
    Tell me and I forget, teach me and
    I remember, involve me and I
    learn.
    -Benjamin Franklin
  • RiluoRiluo The Doctor
    This is a fantastic incentive to get involved. I hope it does not get abused by idiots.

    Abhorash says, "Ve'kahi has proved that even bastards can earn their place."

  • DaskalosDaskalos Credit Whore Extraordinare Rolling amongst piles of credits.
    How would it get abused?

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    "If it makes you feel better, just checking your artifact list threatens to crash my mudlet."

  • IshinIshin Retired Lurker Virginia
    Run into lesser area, get aura, port into enemy city, raid until fades. Rinse, repeat. Whole team cycling out like that would really suck, and there wouldn't be the loss of xp incentive to not raid.
    Tell me and I forget, teach me and
    I remember, involve me and I
    learn.
    -Benjamin Franklin
  • DaskalosDaskalos Credit Whore Extraordinare Rolling amongst piles of credits.
    Oh, that's easy to code around if someone actually does that.

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    Message #17059 Sent By: Oleis           Received On: 1/03/2014/17:24
    "If it makes you feel better, just checking your artifact list threatens to crash my mudlet."

  • IshinIshin Retired Lurker Virginia
    Abuse is abuse, regardless of how easily corrected it is, brah.
    Tell me and I forget, teach me and
    I remember, involve me and I
    learn.
    -Benjamin Franklin
    Riluo
  • AshmerAshmer Barefoot Adventurer Life

    Luckily we know better than to abuse those unicorns. Those poor, poor unicorns.


    Also, anyone have a read on how the death change affects death for vampires, with diffuse mist/earthmeld? I WON'T LET THE MAN TAKE MY CHOICE FROM ME. I'M A FREE VAMPIRE, AND AN AMERICAN.

    the way she tells me I'm hers and she is mine

    open hand or closed fist would be fine

    blood as rare and sweet as cherry wine

    IshinAryanneHavenAarbrokTrager
  • 'Tolia!

    Very nice addition, though loss of xp was never a biggy for me anyway, this should be a huge incentive for lower levels where a death is like OMG I JUST LOST 4 HOURS OF BASHING THREE ROCK. UUUUGGGGG.

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  • I'm just waiting for the noob goon squad to roll in.

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    Arbre-Today at 7:27 PM

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    limToday at 10:38 PM


    you disgust me
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  • JensenJensen Corruption's Butcher
    Haven can stay >100 now
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  • AngweAngwe I'm the dog that ate yr birthday cake Bedford, VA
    Does this count for fracture bashing, too?
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  • Ishin said:
    Run into lesser area, get aura, port into enemy city, raid until fades. Rinse, repeat. Whole team cycling out like that would really suck, and there wouldn't be the loss of xp incentive to not raid.
    Not like we see any raiding in Aet anyway :P.

    Besides an aura lasts for barely a minute. I'd actually feel bad for the person that thinks he can somehow run into a foci area, get aura (after 10 seconds of waiting), rush back like a wild man to some city he wants to raid and stand in there (most likely to die to guards) for 30 seconds attempting to do some form of havoc >>.
    Ishin
  • SetneSetne The Grand Tyrant
    Man, this came too late for me after last night :(

    Ingram said:
    "Oh my arms are suddenly lubed"
    Ishin
  • IshinIshin Retired Lurker Virginia
    I told you guys I was going to take you bashing to get your xp back *stare* @Setne
    Tell me and I forget, teach me and
    I remember, involve me and I
    learn.
    -Benjamin Franklin
  • Ishin said:
    Run into lesser area, get aura, port into enemy city, raid until fades. Rinse, repeat. Whole team cycling out like that would really suck, and there wouldn't be the loss of xp incentive to not raid.
    BOUNTY -idiot- for being an idiot! ... FREE PK on them..

    If someone raids your city / ports into the City 99% of the time that person will be enemied so bounty for raiding.. end off ..

    Entering a Enemy city with Aura doesn't means the City laws dont stay in effect @Ishin Its only when its at the same Aura/lesser/minor ..

    None the less, Minors should be more fun and people who only do minors might get pked more :/
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  • Angwe said:
    Does this count for fracture bashing, too?
    I would imagine it does, since being in the fracture gives you a ylem aura.

  • IshinIshin Retired Lurker Virginia
    Well, there goes the risk of losing xp or anything else for bashing in the Fracture. Now it's basically...go in, bash, who cares if you die or if someone from an enemy city kills you. Free honors mob, too, since you don't lose xp anymore. Assuming it does.
    Tell me and I forget, teach me and
    I remember, involve me and I
    learn.
    -Benjamin Franklin
  • Nalor said:
    Ishin said:
    Run into lesser area, get aura, port into enemy city, raid until fades. Rinse, repeat. Whole team cycling out like that would really suck, and there wouldn't be the loss of xp incentive to not raid.
    BOUNTY -idiot- for being an idiot! ... FREE PK on them..


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  • MacavityMacavity Chicago, Il
    @Razmael question for you, or who ever can answer this....when you say will auto go into death sequence, what does that mean exactly?  Like for Vampires will it auto pull us into the ground where we die or go back to our coffins if death link/arti coffin is set up?  Because if so this could become an issue for us, as people could just keep digging us up and killing us over and over again.   Or does this mean we will auto be taken to the special room to regen at?
    “Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot,
    Nothing is going to get better. It's not.” 
    ― Dr. Seuss, The Lorax

    Veritas says, "Sorry for breaking your system Macavity."
    Veritas says, "My boss fights crash Macavity's computer now."
  • edited April 2014
    Macavity said:
    @Razmael question for you, or who ever can answer this....when you say will auto go into death sequence, what does that mean exactly?  Like for Vampires will it auto pull us into the ground where we die or go back to our coffins if death link/arti coffin is set up?  Because if so this could become an issue for us, as people could just keep digging us up and killing us over and over again.   Or does this mean we will auto be taken to the special room to regen at?
    He likely means for non-vampires, since regular undead and living don't have a choice as to earthmeld/disperse/entomb.

    So if a living character dies they'll automatically 'approach mirror'. If an undead character dies, they'll automatically 'reform body'.

  • I think this is a good change to foci combat, but I am not as sure that it will increase the amount of people fighting. Also, if it was implemented to foci battles, why not just implement it into all PvP in general?
    (Oasis): Benedicto says, "There was like 0.5 seconds between "Oh hey, they're in area. That was quick." and "OMFG THEY'RE IN THE AREA STAHP STAHP!""


  • Because it becomes a lot harder to police and a lot easier to abuse. Foci battles are easier entry points for newbs, so it's an easy way to encourage newbs to participate with plenty of folks around to help. 


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  • AshmerAshmer Barefoot Adventurer Life
    Toz said:
    I'm just waiting for the noob goon squad to roll in.

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    You use Entanglement Failure on Toz.


    <.<


    >.>


    More like.


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    newb3 uses Judge on Toz

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    the way she tells me I'm hers and she is mine

    open hand or closed fist would be fine

    blood as rare and sweet as cherry wine

  • Doesn't matter if every web fails, they still get assist credit. And thus a chunk of dat sweet xp!

    Arbre-Today at 7:27 PM

    You're a vindictive lil unicorn
    ---------------------------

    Lartus-Today at 7:16 PM

    oh wait, toz is famous

    Karhast-Today at 7:01 PM

    You're a singularity of fucking awfulness Toz
    ---------------------------
    Didi's voice resonates across the land, "Yay tox."
    ---------------------------

    Ictinus11/01/2021

    Block Toz
    ---------------------------

    limToday at 10:38 PM


    you disgust me
    ---------------------------
    (Web): Bryn says, "Toz is why we can't have nice things."

  • IshinIshin Retired Lurker Virginia
    Toz said:
    I'm just waiting for the noob goon squad to roll in.

    <guy> enters from the west.
    Newb1 uses Web Tattoo on <guy>.
    Newb2 uses Web Tattoo on <guy>.
    Newb3 uses Web Tattoo on <guy>.
    Newb4 uses Web Tattoo on <guy>.

    -- Ishin doj's all 4 webs <3 web boots
    Tell me and I forget, teach me and
    I remember, involve me and I
    learn.
    -Benjamin Franklin
    RiluoMacavityXavin
  • RiluoRiluo The Doctor
    Yes, we old men love our boots :P

    Abhorash says, "Ve'kahi has proved that even bastards can earn their place."

    Macavity
  • Singularities are going to make a comeback!

    TragerMoireanRiluo
  • BenedictoBenedicto Tentacles Errywhere!
    edited April 2014
    Oh god the lag! Won't anybody think of the lag?!
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  • AshmerAshmer Barefoot Adventurer Life
    Benedicto said:
    Oh god the lag! Won't anybody think of the lag?!

    You didn't actually think Retardation was going away, did you?

    the way she tells me I'm hers and she is mine

    open hand or closed fist would be fine

    blood as rare and sweet as cherry wine

    PerilunaArbre
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