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How about introducing a special arena event or 'mod' if you will, that would disable artifacts? (Aside from pipes and vials perhaps?)
(A 'mod' would probably work better so long as it would clearly prefix or suffix the event to denote it)
That would pave the way for some of the things I have noticed people whi- asking for, while still leaving it as an option for those interested. I think, it would not be a bad idea to try and maybe some of the 'bigger' people could even see the merit mentioned by some (i.e. it is about skill, not wallet size) and introduce a new element or challenge to arena events for all.
The key here is that it does not necessarily have to effect everything, but that it is optional!
I would maybe run some set of surprise test rounds in Delos at various times, see how people react and if they like it then they can buy it or obtain it for each city arena too.
Some kudos here to the people who have talked about this recently and inadvertently made this idea slowly grow in the back of my mind.
People fight without artifacts?
What a joker.
Example:
I have a super ring with my major stat powers, but I also have utility artifacts, pipes, vials, weaponbelt, tattoos. If I go into an Arena with a negation on artis..suddenly I can't do diddly squat. This means I have to have another set of non-artifact things just for those events.
This should be more player based, 'Such and such event, where statistic altering artifacts are discouraged. Those found to be dishonorable are disqualified from prizes.'
Sure a mod could be made to say 'Negates Str/Dex/Con/Int/Enhance/Sip bonus' But then where is the line drawn when it comes to utility artifacts? Artifact quivers, packs, armor/shields, things that don't directly impact damage output, but without make the person lacking in necessary equipment. (Shields obviously do affect)
So stuff like Stability/pipes/vials/quiver or Ultility Artifacts are fine since these stuff works the same if you use the none artifact version, stability can be stripped, pipes empty, vials empty and im sure quivers cant decay in the 30ish mins the event is held for :P
Basically to put everyone on PAR instead of relying on artifacts like most the people in this game does when it comes to combat
Anyway, artifacts is pretty much the only way after endgame to really work on improving your character; to ban them from participation/rewards in events (arena events, weekly experience challenges, great hunts, whatever) would feel like a huge slap in the face. Artifacts did not miraculously fall down from the sky into the hands of a lucky few people. I know I worked hard for mine. Artifacts are meant to provide a significant boon to a character. If you want artifacts to give a maximum of 50 extra damage on your main damaging attack, then reduce their cost to 150-200 credits instead of 1500-2500. I do not see why a character with the full artifact set should not be able to kill a character without any artifacts at all via pure damage.
So... If you want to have a perfectly sterile environment where only skills matter, delete all classes, disable survival/vision/miniskills/avoidance, and let people kill each other with weaponry attacks and envenom. In any other scenarios, some people will always have an unfair advantage.
Message #17059 Sent By: Oleis Received On: 1/03/2014/17:24
"If it makes you feel better, just checking your artifact list threatens to crash my mudlet."
"How about introducing a special arena event or 'mod' if you will, that would disable artifacts? (Aside from pipes and vials perhaps?)"
So when in an Arena event people who dont have arties are more of an Equal base and wont be autobashed to death.. This might be useful for City Events so you can see who in your city has the most skill instead of who has the most artifacts...
Welp. I just realized I was posting in the wrong thread. Why do we even have two threads going on about how unfair it is for people with artifacts? I still think it's sort of uncool to make the assumption that the people with artifacts do not 'deserve' to have them during events and whatnot because that would make them 'less skilled'. That would be like saying 'let's disable endgame statpacks/bonuses during events because it is unfair that those with more time than me can beat me -- we want a level playing field where the only deciding factor is skill'.
I'll end the derail now even though this particular topic really gets me riled up.
^_^
EDIT:
Maybe some mod could fuse these posts and the ones in the RAGE thread into a thread of its own?
I consider myself an arti-whore at this point, I have 2 level 3 stat boosts, level 3 sip, artifact weapon runes, lots of utility thingamajiggers and many other things. However, in total to how much I've actually -spent- of RL money, besides the couple of months I did the Membership..$250 maybe? Over the course of playing for nearly 10 years? And majority of that money went to a character I hardly play anymore.
I work my butt off IG to get credits/gold to get artifacts. And I have a full-time 85+ hour a week job. Gained a lot of that while doing school and job too. I have a social life too (gasp), so it does make me rage-ahol when people always refer to it being unfair with people with big credit cards and whatnot. There's only what..two people that fit that description?
This is why the arena mod bit is a bit annoying to me. I like it in premise, but if it were to be used in full-on events such as ones with credit prizes or event prizes (merits/star tickets what have you) I'd feel a bit miffed. Much like a lot of us are annoying that the ylem amulets can't stack with artifacts. That still bugs me.
End derail since this isn't the right thread. I blame Alexina.
Edit: Realized this was the AINT NO COMBAT THREAD, so moving my ideas to that thread.
As autotouching starburst on any death is super lame since rebirth/carnifex thing, soulcage all have a cool down of 15 mins but if you have 3 starburst you can auto touch without any draw backs but lost of defs....