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Yeah, having read a few more posts, I think it's getting pretty clear to me-
Iesid definitely has cause and all via the Bama stuff, but I reckon it's starting to be perceived as PK farming because that cause is getting a bit old. Yes, Whirran does generate new cause depending on his response, but if it's no more than just shouting snarky stuff, then after once or twice of using that as justification to kill him again, it does get a little bit old too. Now, if he's dusting more shrines or killing new people (i.e. not retaliating) though, then I'd say go right ahead.

Again, not the RP police and not saying what should be - this is just the sense I'm getting as to why the disagreement exists. (It's actually very similar to what happened in the war where it dragged on and nobody was happy.) So if anyone's interested in resolving this disagreement, suggestion would be to move the RP to the next development - dunno if you guys want to think about how to resolve it and move it along.

Separately, also agree that hanging around in Vortex is reason to be killed. Starting to see people get a little entitled as to their right to bash in the Vortex just because it's the GH, which really shouldn't be the case.

This might be unpopular, but justifying behaviour that negatively impacts players beyond the in-character consequences around, “it’s my roleplay” or “my God told me to” doesn’t make you anymore a competent role player - it makes you a dick.

That said, I've seen just as many people proclaim that roleplay is griefing/bullying/whathaveyou in order to smear the reputations of people, just because it handed their character a minor L (or no L at all and just made them mad).

I guess the point I'm trying to make is that what makes "a dick" is fairly subjective, and bound to the whims of the perceiver--and bound to people acting in bad faith. So, yes, there's definitely a spectrum here, and there are things on the far end that definitely could be dickish. I would, however, caution against broad prescriptions about this sort of thing, because I've just as often seen this "remember there's a person behind the screen" mantra be used to prop up and shield people from in-game consequences or as a way for them to drum out people they don't like.

I guess what I'm trying so say is, nothing is prescriptive and absolute here, and try to exercise some judgement, not just in yourself when you're experiencing something, not just in yourself when you're the one doling things out--all the time. When someone tells you so-and-so is x,y,z, don't always take that at face value, especially without receipts or a visible pattern of behavior, or at least trying to assess whether what is said actually matches up with itself.

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I believe in hard lines drawn in the sand regarding PvP and think those lines shouldn’t be allowed to be smudged. I know some think that those lines aren’t being smudged, but I do.

This might be unpopular, but justifying behaviour that negatively impacts players beyond the in-character consequences around, “it’s my roleplay” or “my God told me to” doesn’t make you anymore a competent role player - it makes you a dick.

In that same exact vein, shouting inanely and ganking random noncoms/lower-tiers that shout back doesn’t make you a villain, it makes you a dick. Being a villain is about enriching the story of others, not about seeing how much you can get away with and then excusing everything with the, ‘but I play a villain’ card.

Honesty if I have to have read another forum-lawyer post that essentially reads out, ‘sorry, but I realise a few people might actually dislike this avenue or may not be having fun but in the way I read the rules, I’m completely within my rights and as a RoLePlAyEr’. Just calm down a minute, Mr. Aetolia. I don’t think I can offer anything else here beyond I disagree with how far you’ve taken this and I disagree harder with how hard you are going to justify it.

Playing in Iron Man, then getting chased around vortex until I have to qq. Thanks Iesid.

Edit: nice rp.

Be careful about that, the admin typically take qqing to avoid pk seriously.

Cool. I play this game to bash and fish, and since I can't do that right now, might as well ban me @Ictinus /or whoever admin it is who'll respond to the Iesid's issue.

I'll be back next week. Cheers.

Edit: Also Iron Man sucks. If I competed in my normal rank, I would still be at top 5 with much more XP than I got. There's no incentive to it, and it only provides a really easy target for you to get ganked given you have half health, 2 celerity, and no artist.

You could have just sat and let fought. Or you could have gone and bashed another zone.

You had options that didn't involve literally QQing out of combat, my guy.