Best Of

Some of you need to have a good, hard read of the PK rules again and stop with the "rules for thee, not for me" mentality.

Is your name on the Aegis?

All of these rules are lesser than the greater PK rules and do not override them. So if it was (real
life) weeks ago, move on. It needs to make narrative sense, and an Aegis isn't important enough to
plot revenge for (in game) years.

3. Raising shrines in and of itself is not sufficient grounds for PK, unless the shrine is being raised in an area that has some significance to you/your organisations. There needs to be more context than simply raising a shrine. Even if your character has a beef with the God in question - start a Holy War or defile the shrines instead.

Bolded for emphasis.

I would say that what we're doing is inside the rules.

HELP AEGISPK and ANNOUNCE #3306 are good starting places.

Me sitting over here finding it hilarious that the people who clamored for HELP AEGISPK are the ones violating it, and not only that: using the logic from the first ruling that was later overturned to justify their actions when they were the ones who ranted until it happened.

Your scenario is also different. HELP AEGISPK exists because you were killing people for some of the things now expressly forbidden inside that file.

Today, people are vagueposting because I led groups the last two days killing anybody who dampens an aegis in 3 specific zones in the game that have high importance to the narrative right now.

I would argue that these are different because you weren't doing yours because of an event - you just wanted to knock some skulls.

Oh, so the next time that there's an event in Jaru, I'm allowed to place damage aegises all along the roads of Jaru that will hit anyone who runs into them and if you guys choose to retaliate, I'm allowed to bring my entire tether to beat you down for it. Got it.

Will remember.

Once again you're grasping at straws here.

Time and time again, we've stated our intention. We planted the aegises on the spears, and we defend the aegises on the spears when they are being taken down. Not once have we gone after someone NOT in the aegis's vicinity, not once have we set up a large series of them with the intent to draw in PK, and not once have we declared that we have the right to bring an entire tether to beat down one person. It hasn't happened.

Your mere presence in this conversation regarding current events is just a testament to your bitterness regarding past events.

I didn't claim I hate anything. My logic has always been: "If you're involving yourself in PK outside of established open PK areas, you are opening yourself up for retaliation by taking action against another player." Last I checked, none of you guys are the Ascendril that planted that aegis.
.

That would be relevant if the aegis wasn't in a contested zone in the narrative. You are comparing apples to oranges and insisting that, since they are both fruit (aegis), they both must clearly taste the same. That's just not the case.

In your scenario, you used an aegis for cause over an unreasonable length of time and wouldn't let it go. The aegis wasn't really anywhere special.

In our scenario, we are bulldogging people away from the aegis and not hunting them at all. If they come back to the area, what are we expected to think? The aegis is in one of three zones in the entire game and we aren't expanding that list.

There's a world of difference and you're ignoring it for the sake of being tribal.

The aegis was in Scidve. A contested zone.

An unreasonable length of time? I literally went after one of the offenders shortly after and was issued for it. If it wasn't anywhere special, why were people going after it and making a stink about trying to get rid of it?

Your scenario is the exact same as mine. There's no "apples and oranges". You're doing it for tactical advantage, just as I was. And I went after people for touching the aegis, but just -me- unless I got retaliated on by a bunch of others. I was the one claiming retaliation because it was -my- aegis. Again, none of you have your mark on it.

There's no difference at all. You're just trying to justify yourself because it's your team doing this. I don't even play and I've played on both sides of the game longer than you've played in general. I'm calling you out specifically because I was decried and had my name ran through the mud on your Webs and Front Line for the very same thing you're doing now. What's ironic is that two of people I literally went after and issued me are two people guilty of doing it now.

The difference is that Orrery isn't an event. It's about as 'relevant' for cause as a lesser or major, aka not. It's about as much 'story-driven' as a college football game is.

An event is an actual story-driven motivation.

You are trying to reduce the importance of a Roleplay/Story Event by relating it to 'Orrery That Happens Every Month'. I'm not buying it, no matter who is selling is.