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Re: Announce post #3159: Multiple Artifacts
I can, and will burn through them and as for the "plenty to bash" part - that's because the "excessive"ness allows y'all to live on Tcanna with me 😉Illidan said:I wanted to refrain from chiming in, but seeing as more and more recent changes seem to catch themselves in my path. There really isn't a value of credits you can refund on the hunters tools, that would ease the sting on refunding 'multiple' items. Let alone when you spend hundreds on crowbars/relic crates/credits to buy the pieces from others. I'll use the example here of having 21 of these sets. Instead of poking everyone in the eye, I might propose adding stipulations/work arounds to how they work such as flagging certain exploited areas as being un-knifeable. I won't do a laundry list of quest areas, but you get the idea behind this. (going with the don't punish the masses for the few theory here) As of now, the tool sets have kept hunting alive with the abundance of players bashing, while I known a decision hasn't been made - I will say I am concerned as bashing is probably my primary entertainment as of late. Just asking - please stop and think hard on these before acting hastily.Ngl, 21 sets seems pretty excessive. Do you use all 21 of them every howling? Also, with the addition of the new areas, I've personally felt that there's plenty to bash even with 2 other 200 grinders + other casuals bashing them out. Anyway, if gold generation was the issue on knives, I suppose you could just remove the gold drops if a person is knifing a desirable area for it. But that might create weird scenarios where someone is going to bash the area for gold, and is bashing knifed mobs. Idk.
Validan
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Re: Missed Connections: Aetolians
Hullo, so...Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude.
Recently I found Toz in a discord chatroom about FutureMUD and I remembered Aetolia. Honestly I remember Aetolia a fair deal, and miss several people from my time playing here. @Sibatti was one of the coolest. I also liked @Hadoryu and @Benedicto and @Moirean and @Illidan and @Phoenecia and @Elanth and @Desian and @Yos and @Aere and @Xavin .. also miss those crazy Bezaliels. We all had our weird little tiffs but they all seem pretty distant and silly now that I'm a grown adult. You're all great and I love you. Probably forgetting a lot of people but forgive me, it took me like 5 tries over 15 minutes to remember my password. Some of the names here I only remember because I'm haunted by guilt for how I treated some of you.
Turns out I can still be kind of an unicorns sometimes, but I'm sorry about it anyway. Feel free to contact me on discord: hobos#2916
Illikaal
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Re: Missed Connections: Aetolians
Hullo, so...
Recently I found Toz in a discord chatroom about FutureMUD and I remembered Aetolia. Honestly I remember Aetolia a fair deal, and miss several people from my time playing here. @Sibatti was one of the coolest. I also liked @Hadoryu and @Benedicto and @Moirean and @Illidan and @Phoenecia and @Elanth and @Desian and @Yos and @Aere and @Xavin .. also miss those crazy Bezaliels. We all had our weird little tiffs but they all seem pretty distant and silly now that I'm a grown adult. You're all great and I love you. Probably forgetting a lot of people but forgive me, it took me like 5 tries over 15 minutes to remember my password. Some of the names here I only remember because I'm haunted by guilt for how I treated some of you.
Turns out I can still be kind of an asshole sometimes, but I'm sorry about it anyway. Feel free to contact me on discord: hobos#2916
Recently I found Toz in a discord chatroom about FutureMUD and I remembered Aetolia. Honestly I remember Aetolia a fair deal, and miss several people from my time playing here. @Sibatti was one of the coolest. I also liked @Hadoryu and @Benedicto and @Moirean and @Illidan and @Phoenecia and @Elanth and @Desian and @Yos and @Aere and @Xavin .. also miss those crazy Bezaliels. We all had our weird little tiffs but they all seem pretty distant and silly now that I'm a grown adult. You're all great and I love you. Probably forgetting a lot of people but forgive me, it took me like 5 tries over 15 minutes to remember my password. Some of the names here I only remember because I'm haunted by guilt for how I treated some of you.
Turns out I can still be kind of an asshole sometimes, but I'm sorry about it anyway. Feel free to contact me on discord: hobos#2916
Edhain
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Re: Announce post #3159: Multiple Artifacts
Ok. Let's pull on the reins a little bit. Let's take a look at this from an IRE revenue perspective.
Utilizing Czcibor's example of 10 spears for 21.5K gold per day is far from ridiculous. I can bash that in a day (and then some) EASILY. So this isn't really an issue. Not only that, but they are 100 credits each. Which with platinums is five days of work or $40 if someone decides to buy them with RL money. The more money spent on these artifacts, the more money IRE makes. So that's not exactly an issue.
Knife sets: Oh dear almighty gods, just please do not entertain the thought process of trying to eliminate those as non-multiple item. Everyone has spent hundreds of dollars trying to acquire these pieces. Even during the Item Collection loot crate promo (which was one of the MOST lucrative promos that Aetolia has ever had), thousands of dollars were spent collecting various items, OF WHICH the hunters set was one of them. I personally spent nearly $300 on those loot crate sets and I know another person who spent almost double that for their sets. Removing the ability to multiply them would be absolutely DEVASTATING to a lot of the promos because why should we worry about such a unique artifact if we can only have one of them?
Both of these examples are strictly limited by the player's direct usage. So even if Czcibor spent 1000 credits ($300) for 10 spears, he's barely getting any return back. 1000 cr *6000 per = 6,000,000 gold. It would take him roughly 280 days to get anywhere near having paid that out in terms of gold use and that's if he even uses them every day. Same thing with knives. These artifacts are limited directly by player use, but we spend far more money in the attempt to GET THEM. In some cases, we spend 25+ cr per knife piece to buy from other players. This brings in MORE revenue because you either a) buy with money or b) buy with gold. But the gold purchases are only able to be done because someone ELSE bought with real money. It's a cycle.
Let's take a strong step back from limiting multiple artifacts and just look at the ones that DIRECTLY influence PVP like the reflection wand, which isn't exactly utilized in combat much from what I've seen. But I could be wrong and someone could have thought of something nifty and cheesy.
***Edit: Indorani collars would be excluded because they are unique to have considering the hefty cost and limited pacts for them otherwise and they are a one-time use per Chaos Lord.
However, if it does not directly influence or have the capability to directly influence PVP, then I would leave it the same. So what if someone buys 5000 knife sets? There's only 24 hours in a day and they gotta sleep at some point which means a lot of these knife sets aren't going to get used! So what if someone buys 5000 spears, that's more revenue generation for Aetolia because people will continue buying credits for more artifacts, special auctions, or as a trade currency for limited minipets/relics.
***Edit: If the fact of gold generation via spears is "too much" (which I don't think it is considering I can bash that easily), then change their time usage from every 30 minutes to once/day just like a knife set.
In the end, Aetolia loses out on potential revenue as much as the players lose out on fun additional artifacts. Nobody wins and no one is happy.
Utilizing Czcibor's example of 10 spears for 21.5K gold per day is far from ridiculous. I can bash that in a day (and then some) EASILY. So this isn't really an issue. Not only that, but they are 100 credits each. Which with platinums is five days of work or $40 if someone decides to buy them with RL money. The more money spent on these artifacts, the more money IRE makes. So that's not exactly an issue.
Knife sets: Oh dear almighty gods, just please do not entertain the thought process of trying to eliminate those as non-multiple item. Everyone has spent hundreds of dollars trying to acquire these pieces. Even during the Item Collection loot crate promo (which was one of the MOST lucrative promos that Aetolia has ever had), thousands of dollars were spent collecting various items, OF WHICH the hunters set was one of them. I personally spent nearly $300 on those loot crate sets and I know another person who spent almost double that for their sets. Removing the ability to multiply them would be absolutely DEVASTATING to a lot of the promos because why should we worry about such a unique artifact if we can only have one of them?
Both of these examples are strictly limited by the player's direct usage. So even if Czcibor spent 1000 credits ($300) for 10 spears, he's barely getting any return back. 1000 cr *6000 per = 6,000,000 gold. It would take him roughly 280 days to get anywhere near having paid that out in terms of gold use and that's if he even uses them every day. Same thing with knives. These artifacts are limited directly by player use, but we spend far more money in the attempt to GET THEM. In some cases, we spend 25+ cr per knife piece to buy from other players. This brings in MORE revenue because you either a) buy with money or b) buy with gold. But the gold purchases are only able to be done because someone ELSE bought with real money. It's a cycle.
Let's take a strong step back from limiting multiple artifacts and just look at the ones that DIRECTLY influence PVP like the reflection wand, which isn't exactly utilized in combat much from what I've seen. But I could be wrong and someone could have thought of something nifty and cheesy.
***Edit: Indorani collars would be excluded because they are unique to have considering the hefty cost and limited pacts for them otherwise and they are a one-time use per Chaos Lord.
However, if it does not directly influence or have the capability to directly influence PVP, then I would leave it the same. So what if someone buys 5000 knife sets? There's only 24 hours in a day and they gotta sleep at some point which means a lot of these knife sets aren't going to get used! So what if someone buys 5000 spears, that's more revenue generation for Aetolia because people will continue buying credits for more artifacts, special auctions, or as a trade currency for limited minipets/relics.
***Edit: If the fact of gold generation via spears is "too much" (which I don't think it is considering I can bash that easily), then change their time usage from every 30 minutes to once/day just like a knife set.
In the end, Aetolia loses out on potential revenue as much as the players lose out on fun additional artifacts. Nobody wins and no one is happy.
Rhyot
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Re: LOVE
Entering into 2021 feeling blessed, safe, happy, optimistic, but most of all feeling loved and supported by the wonderful people in my life. You know who you are -- whether we exchange hellos every once in a great while, or chat every other day, I'm grateful for the acquaintances and friendships.
Sibatti
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Re: Character Mood Boards!
Hi. I'm relatively new so still building a profile but here's a start 
Also I don't know how you put the pic up there, sorry
https://app.milanote.com/1KXDG511uqvTeQ?p=BmKhP8Q0HQW
Also I don't know how you put the pic up there, sorry
https://app.milanote.com/1KXDG511uqvTeQ?p=BmKhP8Q0HQW
Maira
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Re: LOVE
@Darrah @Kalena @Stine For the IG Celesmas gifts. Wasn't expecting it, and it warmed my heart 
As well as given me something new to work on! Thanks.
As well as given me something new to work on! Thanks.
Galilei
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Re: LOVE
I've had a friend in Australia since October of 2018. It all started with a giraffe I crochetted. He loved it and I sent it to him. Since then, we send each other care packages from time to time, as well as photos and videos over messenger, talking about our daily lives and things going on. We've discussed actually talking over facetime so many times, but with my social anxiety, it just never happened. Until today...
My mom accidentally called him, panicked and threw the phone over to me. So I just talked to one of my best friends from the other side of the globe! It was amazing and we had a good laugh, despite waking him up at 11pm. XD But at least now we can do it again in the future, cause I know I will be able to do it!
My mom accidentally called him, panicked and threw the phone over to me. So I just talked to one of my best friends from the other side of the globe! It was amazing and we had a good laugh, despite waking him up at 11pm. XD But at least now we can do it again in the future, cause I know I will be able to do it!
