Help Files

OmeiOmei Member, Immortal Posts: 751 Immortal
Macavity said:
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO  annoyed that HELP files are not updated in game!!  Seriously, how are we, as a community, suppose to have new players if the information they are reading in HELP files are not correct??  
I totally agree! This thread is for anyone to point out help files that are erroneous or could use adjustment. If you have any suggestions, please post here.
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  • MacavityMacavity Member Posts: 753 ✭✭✭
    yeah there are TONS!!   I will add them here over time as I find them.  To be honest its gotten so bad that in the past years in most cases I just stopped looking at most help files because of how out of date they are.  Here are a couple...

    HELP UNDEAD SKILLS - Teradrim still reference Sand and Earth 
    HELP LIVING SKILLS - Sentinels still references woodlore and toxicology (I know this was released recently but still needs updating)
    HELP 23 (the artifact scrolls) - I suggest a total revamp of them all.  However the Teradrim class has nothing in its file
    HELP SIGILS --  =)
    HELP CURES reanimation/concoctions - the affliction burnt_skin is no where to be found, did not even know this was an affliction till I heard it on an OOC clan
    HELP PORTALS - has no reference to the new PORTAL CITY or PORTAL GUILD


    thats all that comes to mind just off the top of my head.  there are many many more, and in the future I will use this to report them.  thanks!

    Here is a suggestion, as there are many and I am sure there are not a lot of you in the Pools that can devote the time to fix them all.  Create a new group like the Crafters Guild, where a select few are allowed in, and the player base can make changes to the help files as needed, but also requires 3 approvals in order for the game to take the change, or a Pool approval, which ever.  This way they can be changed and updated on a regular basis 
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    Nothing is going to get better. It's not.” 
    ― Dr. Seuss, The Lorax

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  • AlexinaAlexina the Haunted Soul Member Posts: 851 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I already sent a message, but all the 'HELP ARTIFACTS' files haven't really been updated much with the addition of new stuff.
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  • SaritaSarita The Pillars of the EarthMember, Guildmaster Posts: 675 ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 2013
    HELP UNDEADHOUSES is completely outdated. Major and minor house status doesn't exist anymore, and neither does the Imperium. While it mentions the Dominion, the majority of the commands listed for the Dominion don't actually work.
  • MacavityMacavity Member Posts: 753 ✭✭✭
    also RITUALLIST and SHOWRITUAL (ritual name)  can all of those be updated to what the skills actually do now for the BB. 
    “Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot,
    Nothing is going to get better. It's not.” 
    ― Dr. Seuss, The Lorax

    Veritas says, "Sorry for breaking your system Macavity."

    Veritas says, "My boss fights crash Macavity's computer now."
  • PhoeneciaPhoenecia Somewhere in AtticaMember Posts: 475 ✭✭✭✭
    HELP CRAFTING REFERENCES could stand to be updated with some of the newer crafting nouns for some items that were referred to in Crafters news post 212.
    • Books: manual, sketchbook
    • Rack: stand
    • Necklace: pectoral
    • Charm: trinket
    • Pauldrons: spaulders

    Also, I'm pretty sure there was a help file before that told you how many things you could wear in each wear location for clothing/accessories, but I'm not sure what happened to it. Having it would be extremely useful instead of having to guess how many things you can wear in what place.

  • OmeiOmei Member, Immortal Posts: 751 Immortal
    Right! Getting started.

    Tweaked LIVINGSKILLS and UNDEADSKILLS, created (probably kinda sloppy) help files for Desiccation, Tracking, etc. I'll attack this some more after work.
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  • ArekaAreka Drifting in a sea of wenches' bosomsMember, Guildmaster Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Could a reference or information be added to HELP ORGHELP about the [[]] linking nonsense? 
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  • SolusSolus Member Posts: 4
    In HELP GODS, list what "side" the gods are aligned to?

    Would help me a lot, personally.
  • OmeiOmei Member, Immortal Posts: 751 Immortal
    edited December 2013
    Solus said:
    In HELP GODS, list what "side" the gods are aligned to?

    Would help me a lot, personally.
    That one's tricky. You have to remember that the Gods are player characters too - although we try to keep it set up so that there's a balance between Spirit and Shadow gods, there are a lot of shades of grey. Omei, for instance, is probably the closest thing the Spirit side has to an evil Goddess, whereas the Shadow side has Maghak, who isn't actually all that bad, but he's lumped into that side because he protects Spirean interests.

    The point is that I don't think listing their sides would be useful. It's not a subject closed to debate, though.
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  • OmeiOmei Member, Immortal Posts: 751 Immortal
    Just wanted to throw another thing out there - I've got a few projects on my hands, so my work on help files might be a little slow. Don't, by any means, assume I'm ignoring you guys. You have all been very helpful!
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  • DaskalosDaskalos Credit Whore Extraordinare Rolling amongst piles of credits.Member, Guildmaster Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yea, when Dask was between gods, if Maghak had been on the Life side Dask totally would of gone Maghak. His ideals fit Dask pretty well, but he's Spirean so ew cooties.

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    "If it makes you feel better, just checking your artifact list threatens to crash my mudlet."

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  • AztonAzton Member Posts: 230 ✭✭✭
    23.3.5 Cryptic Chests

    * 3-6 Grimstin pills

    ^^ I typoed that a few week ago... for when you update that help scroll ...

  • KerrynKerryn The Black Flagon InnMember, Guildmaster Posts: 270 ✭✭✭✭
    For the help file HELP TETHERING, could we get a slight rewording, please?

    It's very misleading to new players. Often they see the word 'neutral' and assume the guilds are neutral. When in fact the -guilds- are the furthest thing from neutral.

    I suggest instead of using the word 'neutral' that the word 'untethered' be used. I feel this will help with much of the confusion.


  • DaingeanDaingean Xanhaal, probably.Member Posts: 258 ✭✭✭
    From HELP RACESKILLS:

    Satiation:
      - Gives the player access to the satiation skill in Survival. Read AB SELFISHNESS SATIATION for more information.
      - Syntax: SATIATION

    Typo'd it too.
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  • ArbreArbre Arbrelina Jolie Member, Guildmaster Posts: 1,999 mod
    HELP MARRIAGE is, quite possibly, the stupidest scroll I have ever read.
  • XavinXavin Member Posts: 1,422 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Arbre said:
    HELP MARRIAGE is, quite possibly, the stupidest scroll I have ever read.
    It's a pretty bad scroll. Should probably have help marriage redirect to help unity and then have a 'see also help engagement' appended to the bottom of that.

  • SlypheSlyphe Member Posts: 617 Immortal
    Phoenecia said:
    HELP CRAFTING REFERENCES could stand to be updated with some of the newer crafting nouns for some items that were referred to in Crafters news post 212.
    • Books: manual, sketchbook
    • Rack: stand
    • Necklace: pectoral
    • Charm: trinket
    • Pauldrons: spaulders

    Also, I'm pretty sure there was a help file before that told you how many things you could wear in each wear location for clothing/accessories, but I'm not sure what happened to it. Having it would be extremely useful instead of having to guess how many things you can wear in what place.

    First part regarding references has been updated, that's my bad for not doing it immediately after release! The second part would be very useful I imagine, so I'm looking into that.

    Areka said:
    Could a reference or information be added to HELP ORGHELP about the [[]] linking nonsense? 
    You've got it ma'am!

    Azton said:
    23.3.5 Cryptic Chests

    * 3-6 Grimstin pills

    ^^ I typoed that a few week ago... for when you update that help scroll ...

    This has been fixed too. Whoooops.

    Kerryn said:
    For the help file HELP TETHERING, could we get a slight rewording, please?

    It's very misleading to new players. Often they see the word 'neutral' and assume the guilds are neutral. When in fact the -guilds- are the furthest thing from neutral.

    I suggest instead of using the word 'neutral' that the word 'untethered' be used. I feel this will help with much of the confusion.

    You raise a very good point here! Untethered is a bit more neutral, so I swapped that out. Good catch!

    Daingean said:
    From HELP RACESKILLS:

    Satiation:
      - Gives the player access to the satiation skill in Survival. Read AB SELFISHNESS SATIATION for more information.
      - Syntax: SATIATION

    Typo'd it too.
    We're actually turning selfishness into a skillset, we were wondering how long it would be until somebody caught that! I eagerly await a skillset based entirely upon being a snobby jerk.

    ..Just kidding, fixed.

    Arbre said:
    HELP MARRIAGE is, quite possibly, the stupidest scroll I have ever read.

    I'm going to hold off on fixing this just to taunt you.

    ArekaJaslineOmei
  • MacavityMacavity Member Posts: 753 ✭✭✭
    in HELP CURES REANIMATION  the last cure in the Lung tree is called earthrot where in HELP CURES CONCOCTIONS its labeled as sandrot.  In affliction view it comes up as sandrot.  

    Can either earthrot be changed to sandrot, or the other way around so it is consistent across the board please.
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    Nothing is going to get better. It's not.” 
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    Veritas says, "Sorry for breaking your system Macavity."

    Veritas says, "My boss fights crash Macavity's computer now."
  • OmeiOmei Member, Immortal Posts: 751 Immortal
    edited December 2013
    HELP UNDEAD SKILLS
    HELP LIVING SKILLS

    Fixed Teradrim and Sentinel references. Added or changed files where appropriate.


    HELP PORTALS

    Removed some of the fluff and made it more informative. Added references to the new PORTAL CITY/GUILD commands.


    HELP CRAFTING REFERENCES

    Slyphe-dawg added references. I widened the help file a little and cleaned up the formatting.


    HELP GODS

    I threw you a bone, @Solus, and gave HELP GODS a new coat of paint. The new file will give new players an at-a-glance idea of who they should and shouldn't worship without imposing tricky morals.

    Also, put Niuri in her proper place in HELP 11.


    HELP CURES REANIMATION

    Fixed earthrot. Rotting the earth is the exclusive right of @Ivoln.
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  • SessizlikSessizlik Muffin Mistress Member Posts: 413 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Omei said:
    HELP GODS


    The following Gods existed in one form another at some point in Aetolia's history, but have either deceased, or changed so as to become unrecognizable.

     

    I think you missed a word in there. "In one form OR another". :) Love the new layout.

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  • OmeiOmei Member, Immortal Posts: 751 Immortal
    Fixed. Don't mind me, Omei's been hittin' that holiday egg nog.
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  • SaybreSaybre Member Posts: 283 ✭✭✭
    [HINT]: You are now entering the 'the Isle of Delos' area. This is a player-run city.

    So..when can I gain citizenship? Teneric is awesome.
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  • ArekaAreka Drifting in a sea of wenches' bosomsMember, Guildmaster Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Could the vast multitude of artifact helps be added to the bottom of HELP ARTIFACTS? properties, stat boosting, misc, defensive, weaponry, and so on. They're a bit unwieldy right now and it isn't always clear where to go to find things (like spirit_anchor, thank you @saybre)
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  • MoireanMoirean Chairmander PortlandMember, Newbie Helper, Guildmaster Posts: 5,612 ✭✭✭✭✭
    HELP ARTIFACT POWERS is also out of date (as may be other artifact help files). I keep wanting to get dstab speed whenever I read it. :(
    The Divine voice of Razmael echoes in your head, "God of imps."
    Eugenides says to you, "Imp, Are you sure you were not born a Troll?"
    The Divine voice of Arion echoes in your head, "Every time I try to punish you for being so flippant, I find Myself laughing instead."
    Hugo has expressed his esteem of you for the following reason: Being a badass leader.
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  • SessizlikSessizlik Muffin Mistress Member Posts: 413 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In HELP MINIPET LIST, spider has a typo: a miniature pulsating sipder (60 Iron Coins).
    And the snowmen has not yet been added.
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  • SaybreSaybre Member Posts: 283 ✭✭✭

    Reported 2013/12/25 19:12:32 by Saybre
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    Description:
        HELP MINIPET LIST - a miniature pulsating sipder (60 Iron Coins) - Pretty sure that should be 'spider'

    Beat ya to it Sessi. :P
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  • OmeiOmei Member, Immortal Posts: 751 Immortal
    Fix't.
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  • SessizlikSessizlik Muffin Mistress Member Posts: 413 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Also, the wailing spirit pet is missing a zero in the price. Got a bit of a shock when I went there. <.<
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  • MacavityMacavity Member Posts: 753 ✭✭✭
    HELP REST
    HELP HUNGER
    HELP SOBRIETY
    HELP CLOTHING

    Can all these help files (some are not created) have their ranks from STAT added to them, so we know what they are, and new players will know as well.  
    “Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot,
    Nothing is going to get better. It's not.” 
    ― Dr. Seuss, The Lorax

    Veritas says, "Sorry for breaking your system Macavity."

    Veritas says, "My boss fights crash Macavity's computer now."
  • ArekaAreka Drifting in a sea of wenches' bosomsMember, Guildmaster Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Can we get a HELP MINISKILLRANKS, the same as HELP SKILLRANKS but for minis? 
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